Kalm's Election Re-Cap

[BDKJMU]

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

My disappointment? Neither Obama nor Dems touted the great things they did. The administration has been scandal-free (especially when held to the light of something like Reagan's), the economy improved immensely and their are no major world conflagrations in which we are entangled. Why the Dems abandoned Obama and let the Conks link them to any semblance of "malaise" or trouble is nothing more than extreme cowardice. The nation IS much better off than it was 6 hers ago.
They have no sense of party and, instead, after years of heinous, unabashed obstruction, allowed the Conks to lead them around by their noses. Shame. My party is the party of pussies.



Edit: re: dark money, the Dems out raised and outspent the Conks in Minnesota and put their people back in office with the exception of one guy who probably had to go, anyway. None of them abandoned Obama or party principle.

Are we looking at the same administration? You honestly, can't believe what you wrote.

Yeah exactly
-Fast and Furious
-Benghazi
-IRS's illegal targeting of conservatives
-VA scandal
-AP Gate
-Trading a deserting weasel for 5 Taliban, several high ranking.
-NSA scandal.
-Secret Service Security scandal.

And what others have I left off?

[Ivytalk]

That's the really crazy part - the economy is doing better - and yet the Dems didn't just lose but got absolutely crushed because R's linked them to Obama (all McConnell ran on was linking Grimes to O - the whole bit about her refusing to say she voted for him, even when she was a delegate for him in '12).

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

My disappointment? Neither Obama nor Dems touted the great things they did. The administration has been scandal-free (especially when held to the light of something like Reagan's), the economy improved immensely and their are no major world conflagrations in which we are entangled. Why the Dems abandoned Obama and let the Conks link them to any semblance of "malaise" or trouble is nothing more than extreme cowardice. The nation IS much better off than it was 6 hers ago.
They have no sense of party and, instead, after years of heinous, unabashed obstruction, allowed the Conks to lead them around by their noses. Shame. My party is the party of pussies.



Edit: re: dark money, the Dems out raised and outspent the Conks in Minnesota and put their people back in office with the exception of one guy who probably had to go, anyway. None of them abandoned Obama or party principle.

Yup, you dumb Norskies re-elected Al Franken. Congratulations.

[BDKJMU]

One of your more clever replies.

Fits right along with your laughable, idiotic assertion...

[travelinman67]

The Onion?? I must have missed that.

I was making a joke, but it's close to the truth.

Wrong. Quinnipiac poll. Was discussed in a thread entitled "Obama worst President since WWII"...

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-even ... aseID=2056

Obama = Worst

Reagan = Best




Suck it, Homo.

[travelinman67]

Are we looking at the same administration? You honestly, can't believe what you wrote.

Yeah exactly
-Fast and Furious
-Benghazi
-IRS's illegal targeting of conservatives
-VA scandal
-AP Gate
-Trading a deserting weasel for 5 Taliban, several high ranking.
-NSA scandal.
-Secret Service Security scandal.

And what others have I left off?

EPA Destruction of evidence, use of phony email accounts to communicate with and execute bidding of NGO environmental advocacy groups.

[kalm]

One of your more clever replies.

Fits right along with your laughable, idiotic assertion...

Which part can't you figure out, dopey?

Both parties are primarily comprised of corporatists. One is center right and one is further right. Or don't you like the Republican party being called right wing? By world wide standards and compared to their own history, they surely are.

Do I need to provide examples? Perhaps some colorful pictures to 'spain it to you better?

[BDKJMU]

Fits right along with your laughable, idiotic assertion...

Which part can't you figure out, dopey?

Both parties are primarily comprised of corporatists. One is center right and one is further right. Or don't you like the Republican party being called right wing? By world wide standards and compared to their own history, they surely are.

Do I need to provide examples? Perhaps some colorful pictures to 'spain it to you better?

Calling the donk party center right is only something a left wing liberal would do..

[houndawg]

Which part can't you figure out, dopey?

Both parties are primarily comprised of corporatists. One is center right and one is further right. Or don't you like the Republican party being called right wing? By world wide standards and compared to their own history, they surely are.

Do I need to provide examples? Perhaps some colorful pictures to 'spain it to you better?

Calling the donk party center right is only something a left wing liberal would do..

Obama is more conservative than Eisenhower.

[CAA Flagship]

Tell that to the fast food industry, or theme park industry, etc. If being done to make people feel good, it is extremely damaging to businesses. Also, it will get companies to think about job cuts. And job cuts will happen. It also provides less of an incentive for workers to better themselves to make better wages.

Except there's no correlation between employment rates and minimum wage increases.

But since we're on the topic of jobs and wages, I think job security, financial security, and increasing wages are the thorns in Obama's side.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/20 ... troy-jobs/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And trust me, I saw the effect at my job in the mid 90's.

[kalm]

Calling the donk party center right is only something a left wing liberal would do..

Obama is more conservative than Eisenhower.

Obama…center right corporatist.

Harry Reid…center right corporatist

Hilary Clinton…center right corporatist.

Grimes and Nunn both ran center right campaigns.

BDK has his head too far up his vaginer to understand.

[tribe_pride]

What is center-left and what is left wing then?

[kalm]

What is center-left and what is left wing then?

Franken/Patty Murray

Kucinich/Grayson

Or something like that.

[JohnStOnge]

5) Red states Alaska, Arkansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska all voted minimum wage increases. I'm neutral on the minimum wage and it affects my business a ton. Just pointing this out that while voting for the center right and further right parties because they have no other choices, Americans continue to be progressive on the issues.

That does concern me because the minimum wage is really a stupid idea. People voting the way they did on that issue when given the opportunity does show that the entitlement mentality...which is at the root of the chronic fiscal problems of this country and is also contrary to what this country was supposed to be about...is thriving.

[DSUrocks07]

The irony of how people voted for minimum wage increases are the same people who bitch and moan about Congress being able to vote to increase their own pay.

[Cap'n Cat]

LMAO @ those "scandals"!!!!

Conk teapot tempests which all backfired!!!

Except on Fox……

[JohnStOnge]

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

I'll agree with that. The media act like some big overwhelming degree of public sentiment is expressed because the people who really have no idea as to what they really want shifted one way to some extent during one election. Like, even though I'm glad she won, I heard statements about how Joni Ernst had a landslide because she beat her opponent by 52.2% to 43.7%.

I'm sorry, but that's not a huge margin. It shows a sharply divided public. 43.7 percent of the population is not a small proportion.

Same with Obama winning the Presidency last time. He won the popular vote by 51% to 47%. That's not an overwhelming margin at all. Again, it shows a sharply divided population.

[kalm]

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

I'll agree with that. The media act like some big overwhelming degree of public sentiment is expressed because the people who really have no idea as to what they really want shifted one way to some extent during one election. Like, even though I'm glad she won, I heard statements about how Joni Ernst had a landslide because she beat her opponent by 52.2% to 43.7%.

I'm sorry, but that's not a huge margin. It shows a sharply divided public. 43.7 percent of the population is not a small proportion.

Same with Obama winning the Presidency last time. He won the popular vote by 51% to 47%. That's not an overwhelming margin at all. Again, it shows a sharply divided population.

Or a population with no good choices.

[CID1990]

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

My disappointment? Neither Obama nor Dems touted the great things they did. The administration has been scandal-free (especially when held to the light of something like Reagan's), the economy improved immensely and their are no major world conflagrations in which we are entangled. Why the Dems abandoned Obama and let the Conks link them to any semblance of "malaise" or trouble is nothing more than extreme cowardice. The nation IS much better off than it was 6 hers ago.
They have no sense of party and, instead, after years of heinous, unabashed obstruction, allowed the Conks to lead them around by their noses. Shame. My party is the party of pussies.



Edit: re: dark money, the Dems out raised and outspent the Conks in Minnesota and put their people back in office with the exception of one guy who probably had to go, anyway. None of them abandoned Obama or party principle.

Yep. When they run as liberals, they do better. When they run as moderate conks, they lose.

Really, Karl Rove?

So if Grimes or Hagan had gone full liberal they would have won?



Here's a news flash for you and Cap'n Cat: Obamacare is an anchor around the neck of anyone who voted for it and that's a fact. Your assertion that it is popular (oops.... you didn't call it popular... you said it was gaining popularity... nice whiff) is flat wrong. A large majority of voting Americans see Obamacare in negative light. Couple the ACA with a dismal record on the world stage (he was supposed to make eveybody like us again, remember?)

It is the visible results of failed progressive policy that led to these election results. PLEASE you two sign on to your favorite candidate's campaign in 2016 and get them to run to the left. That'll guarantee they lose.

[kalm]

[Pwns]

Oh please please do run an unabashed liberal democrat instead of Hillary for 2016. I will personally register as a donk and help that person win the nomination.

[CID1990]

Oh please please do run an unabashed liberal democrat instead of Hillary for 2016. I will personally register as a donk and help that person win the nomination.

no sh1t

this is a fantasy thread

might as well be about unicorns or Jon going straight or something

[CitadelGrad]

This is pretty easy to explain. Most people are satisfied with their representatives. It's other representatives with whom they are dissatisfied. I'm happy with my representative, but not happy at all with Pelosi, Boehner, Reid, etc. There is a difference between views of individual reps and senators, and views of the institution.

[kalm]

Oh please please do run an unabashed liberal democrat instead of Hillary for 2016. I will personally register as a donk and help that person win the nomination.

no sh1t

this is a fantasy thread

might as well be about unicorns or Jon going straight or something

Good thing Obama didn't run as a lib.

[Baldy]

Obama is more conservative than Eisenhower.

Obama…center right corporatist.

Harry Reid…center right corporatist

Hilary Clinton…center right corporatist.

Grimes and Nunn both ran center right campaigns.

BDK has his head too far up his vaginer to understand.

kalm getting his daily dose from Kos and the Donk Underground.

Since Nunn, Grimes and almost all the other losing Donk candidates ran as Clintonites, lets take a deeper look at the Hildabeast.

Radical Feminist
Hillarycare
Cap & Trade
Open borders
Kyoto Protocol
Anti-ANWR exploration
"The unfettered free market has been the most radically disruptive force in American life in the last generation," - The Hildabeast
Pro-"living wage"
Amnesty
Gun Control
Abolish the Electoral College
Abortion on Demand
Social Justice
Anti School Choice
Saul Alinsky acolyte

just to name a few...

You're right, kalm.
She sounds just like a typical center-right Conk.

[kalm]

Obama…center right corporatist.

Harry Reid…center right corporatist

Hilary Clinton…center right corporatist.

Grimes and Nunn both ran center right campaigns.

BDK has his head too far up his vaginer to understand.

kalm getting his daily dose from Kos and the Donk Underground.

Since Nunn, Grimes and almost all the other losing Donk candidates ran as Clintonites, lets take a deeper look at the Hildabeast.

Radical Feminist
Hillarycare
Cap & Trade
Open borders
Kyoto Protocol
Anti-ANWR exploration
"The unfettered free market has been the most radically disruptive force in American life in the last generation," - The Hildabeast
Pro-"living wage"
Amnesty
Gun Control
Abolish the Electoral College
Abortion on Demand
Social Justice
Anti School Choice
Saul Alinsky acolyte

just to name a few...

You're right, kalm.
She sounds just like a typical center-right Conk.

Bill Ayers!
Gloria Steinem!
Alan Watts!
George Soros!
George Clooney!
Agenda 21!
Mao Zedong!