NY Times: WMD's WERE Found In Iraq, Reports Classified

[travelinman67]

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... apons.html

So many returning soldiers reported finding WMD's in Iraq, despite a "no WMDS" meme having become an accepted narrative by anti-Bush, anti-war protesters.

Now, NY Times confirms numerous incidents of WMD discoveries.

Fucking idiot.

[Cap'n Cat]

Poor Tbag…. ConkWorld slips away and Progressivism takes over, burying his most lovingly beheld beliefs. Lashes out like a smelly rat.

Closed circuit to dback, D, kalmie, hounder, Chizzy - check your PM's or info about the intervention.

[travelinman67]

... ConkWorld slips away and Progressivism takes over...

Talk to me about your theory on NOV. 4th.

[kalm]

Kalm for the win!!

Hey, ***head! You move to the back of the line...you owe houndawg a reach-around.

Why do you keep using the reach around line? Projection?

[YoUDeeMan]

Hey, ***head! You move to the back of the line...you owe houndawg a reach-around.

Why do you keep using the reach around line? Projection?

Sometimes it is a stretch for John to get a firm grip on things.

[BlueHen86]

Huh?

Do you read your own sources?

The article clearly said that the one large site, where the weapons were left to the Iraqis to entomb, had NOT, been cleared. Yup, the weapons are still there...and now in the hands of ISIS.

And you think all of the bad munitions have been found and accounted for?

The Iraqis certainly know where they hid the munitions...and now some of them are revisiting those areas in order to gather some goodies for use elsewhere.

As I said, good times ahead for everyone in that area.

Cluck is still undefeated!

The only thing you are good at is being the third man in to an argument and riding the jock of another. You have no original thoughts, all you can do is claim victory on the internet. Congrats!

[YoUDeeMan]

Cluck is still undefeated!

The only thing you are good at is being the third man in to an argument and riding the jock of another. You have no original thoughts, all you can do is claim victory on the internet. Congrats!

You actually put some thought into that and came up with this?

[Ibanez]

The pentagon has acknowledged his article to be accurate.

His article states that WMD chemical weapon stockpiles were found.

Your point?

That they weren't the WMDs we were told we had to go get.

The bigger issue, IMO, is the ill treatment by our government towards those exposed and currently suffering from their exposure to the chemicals.

[Skjellyfetti]

The bigger issue, IMO, is the ill treatment by our government towards those exposed and currently suffering from their exposure to the chemicals.

exactly. that is what the article is about. not tman's crusade to vindicate the invasion of iraq.

[Ibanez]

The bigger issue, IMO, is the ill treatment by our government towards those exposed and currently suffering from their exposure to the chemicals.

exactly. that is what the article is about. not tman's crusade to vindicate the invasion of iraq.

Exactly. Watch some interviews with CJ. He's done a great job.

[travelinman67]

Say WHAT!!!!!

The WMD's found weren't the ones he said he was looking for??????????



Chiver's article SPECIFICALLY was about the Pentagon's release in response to the NY Times FOIA request for previously classified DOD records of chemica lweapon discovered/recovered during the Iraq war.

Speaking of reading comprehension problems!

That Chivers attempted to spin that into a push-pull "we were wrong, BUT, Bush beat his wife" narrative is mere politics.

Jelly, Ibby, REPEATEDLY you have complained that Conks never give Obama "a break": I assure you, I only post a small fraction of the controversial issues I find daily.

If you want to walk the walk, man up and admit the libtard meme "Bush lied, people died" was false. You're not stating Bush was a "good" President: He was not.

To spin the article's obvious intent into another donk-hate meme, is Trollish.

[Ibanez]

Say WHAT!!!!!

The WMD's found weren't the ones he said he was looking for??????????



Chiver's article SPECIFICALLY was about the Pentagon's release in response to the NY Times FOIA request for previously classified DOD records of chemica lweapon discovered/recovered during the Iraq war.

Speaking of reading comprehension problems!

That Chivers attempted to spin that into a push-pull "we were wrong, BUT, Bush beat his wife" narrative is mere politics.

Jelly, Ibby, REPEATEDLY you have complained that Conks never give Obama "a break": I assure you, I only post a small fraction of the controversial issues I find daily.

If you want to walk the walk, man up and admit the libtard meme "Bush lied, people died" was false. You're not stating Bush was a "good" President: He was not.

To spin the article's obvious intent into another donk-hate meme, is Trollish.

I've stated before the mantra is BS. Obama is as much as killer as Bush was. And that's with that shitty Peace Prize.

I haven't read the article. I've watched interviews with the author about his article. His editors cut out 50% of what he wanted to report. There's much more than what's in print.

[travelinman67]

Say WHAT!!!!!

The WMD's found weren't the ones he said he was looking for??????????



Chiver's article SPECIFICALLY was about the Pentagon's release in response to the NY Times FOIA request for previously classified DOD records of chemica lweapon discovered/recovered during the Iraq war.

Speaking of reading comprehension problems!

That Chivers attempted to spin that into a push-pull "we were wrong, BUT, Bush beat his wife" narrative is mere politics.

Jelly, Ibby, REPEATEDLY you have complained that Conks never give Obama "a break": I assure you, I only post a small fraction of the controversial issues I find daily.

If you want to walk the walk, man up and admit the libtard meme "Bush lied, people died" was false. You're not stating Bush was a "good" President: He was not.

To spin the article's obvious intent into another donk-hate meme, is Trollish.

I've stated before the mantra is BS. Obama is as much as killer as Bush was. And that's with that shitty Peace Prize.

I haven't read the article. I've watched interviews with the author about his article. His editors cut out 50% of what he wanted to report. There's much more than what's in print.

Indeed. NYT has been heavily investigating the Iraq military conflicts (1981-present), specifically focusing on the U.S. military support (technology, weapons, training) during the Iran/Iraq war. To be sure, the U.S. provided military aid as an enemy of Iran was our ally. The line was drawn at WMD's including precursors. As early as 1981, Saddam had militarily begun using CW's, and quickly shifted to using CW's to suppress civilian protest: The evidence was well developed and indescribably gruesome.
As such, our Commerce dept. excluded Iraq from the 18 countries accepted for precursor export.

I realize you don't have much time, but when you find some time, please read Chiver's article, the Pentagon FOIA docs, and most importantly, this NYT piece (below) on how Saddam acquired the precursors...it lengthy, but very interesting. Most importantly, you should note that the U.S. Govt. DID NOT collaborate or assist Iraq's CW development, and definitely did not sell/provide CW weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

[CID1990]

I've stated before the mantra is BS. Obama is as much as killer as Bush was. And that's with that shitty Peace Prize.

I haven't read the article. I've watched interviews with the author about his article. His editors cut out 50% of what he wanted to report. There's much more than what's in print.

Indeed. NYT has been heavily investigating the Iraq military conflicts (1981-present), specifically focusing on the U.S. military support (technology, weapons, training) during the Iran/Iraq war. To be sure, the U.S. provided military aid as an enemy of Iran was our ally. The line was drawn at WMD's including precursors. As early as 1981, Saddam had militarily begun using CW's, and quickly shifted to using CW's to suppress civilian protest: The evidence was well developed and indescribably gruesome.
As such, our Commerce dept. excluded Iraq from the 18 countries accepted for precursor export.

I realize you don't have much time, but when you find some time, please read Chiver's article, the Pentagon FOIA docs, and most importantly, this NYT piece (below) on how Saddam acquired the precursors...it lengthy, but very interesting. Most importantly, you should note that the U.S. Govt. DID NOT collaborate or assist Iraq's CW development, and definitely did not sell/provide CW weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

Well, in a WAY, we did "collaborate" with Iraq in the production of CW.

Much in the same way Iraq having an air force was a product of us having invented the airplane.

http://thefederalist.com/2014/10/16/sho ... dumb-liar/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[houndawg]

Poor Tbag…. ConkWorld slips away and Progressivism takes over, burying his most lovingly beheld beliefs. Lashes out like a smelly rat.

Closed circuit to dback, D, kalmie, hounder, Chizzy - check your PM's or info about the intervention.

Got it! Personally I think he's gone too far around the bend but its worth a try, if only for the sake of the old pre-spandos Tman....

[Ibanez]

I've stated before the mantra is BS. Obama is as much as killer as Bush was. And that's with that shitty Peace Prize.

I haven't read the article. I've watched interviews with the author about his article. His editors cut out 50% of what he wanted to report. There's much more than what's in print.

Indeed. NYT has been heavily investigating the Iraq military conflicts (1981-present), specifically focusing on the U.S. military support (technology, weapons, training) during the Iran/Iraq war. To be sure, the U.S. provided military aid as an enemy of Iran was our ally. The line was drawn at WMD's including precursors. As early as 1981, Saddam had militarily begun using CW's, and quickly shifted to using CW's to suppress civilian protest: The evidence was well developed and indescribably gruesome.
As such, our Commerce dept. excluded Iraq from the 18 countries accepted for precursor export.

I realize you don't have much time, but when you find some time, please read Chiver's article, the Pentagon FOIA docs, and most importantly, this NYT piece (below) on how Saddam acquired the precursors...it lengthy, but very interesting. Most importantly, you should note that the U.S. Govt. DID NOT collaborate or assist Iraq's CW development, and definitely did not sell/provide CW weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

American companies did collaborate in the creation of their CW. Whether the govt was involved or not, I dunno.

[CID1990]

Indeed. NYT has been heavily investigating the Iraq military conflicts (1981-present), specifically focusing on the U.S. military support (technology, weapons, training) during the Iran/Iraq war. To be sure, the U.S. provided military aid as an enemy of Iran was our ally. The line was drawn at WMD's including precursors. As early as 1981, Saddam had militarily begun using CW's, and quickly shifted to using CW's to suppress civilian protest: The evidence was well developed and indescribably gruesome.
As such, our Commerce dept. excluded Iraq from the 18 countries accepted for precursor export.

I realize you don't have much time, but when you find some time, please read Chiver's article, the Pentagon FOIA docs, and most importantly, this NYT piece (below) on how Saddam acquired the precursors...it lengthy, but very interesting. Most importantly, you should note that the U.S. Govt. DID NOT collaborate or assist Iraq's CW development, and definitely did not sell/provide CW weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

American companies did collaborate in the creation of their CW. Whether the govt was involved or not, I dunno.

When, and how?

[Bronco]

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This news should make Hillary happy since she said there was WMD's and was all in favor of the war
Maybe that is the plan coming from the NY Times

[travelinman67]

Indeed. NYT has been heavily investigating the Iraq military conflicts (1981-present), specifically focusing on the U.S. military support (technology, weapons, training) during the Iran/Iraq war. To be sure, the U.S. provided military aid as an enemy of Iran was our ally. The line was drawn at WMD's including precursors. As early as 1981, Saddam had militarily begun using CW's, and quickly shifted to using CW's to suppress civilian protest: The evidence was well developed and indescribably gruesome.
As such, our Commerce dept. excluded Iraq from the 18 countries accepted for precursor export.

I realize you don't have much time, but when you find some time, please read Chiver's article, the Pentagon FOIA docs, and most importantly, this NYT piece (below) on how Saddam acquired the precursors...it lengthy, but very interesting. Most importantly, you should note that the U.S. Govt. DID NOT collaborate or assist Iraq's CW development, and definitely did not sell/provide CW weapons.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... 12/a181681

American companies did collaborate in the creation of their CW. Whether the govt was involved or not, I dunno.

How?

Have you read the NYT Van Anraat article I linked? I would argue it's probably the most exhaustive non-classified investigation into Iraq's acquisition of chemicals repurposed for WMD's published to date.

[Ibanez]

American companies did collaborate in the creation of their CW. Whether the govt was involved or not, I dunno.

When, and how?

I'll drudge up the name of the Charleston company. I have more important things to worry about.

[Ibanez]

American companies did collaborate in the creation of their CW. Whether the govt was involved or not, I dunno.

How?

Have you read the NYT Van Anraat article I linked? I would argue it's probably the most exhaustive non-classified investigation into Iraq's acquisition of chemicals repurposed for WMD's published to date.

From the article, they were designed in America and manufactured in Europe.

[Ibanez]

Cardinal Stabilizer of Charleston SC and Alcolac of Baltimore provided Saddam with hundreds of tons of thiodiglycol. This is necessary to make mustard gas.

[Skjellyfetti]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riegle_Report" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.laweekly.com/2003-05-01/news ... onor-roll/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Cluck and Tman are making this thread look like another Sandy Hook massacre the way they are killing it and beating libs within an inch of their government mandated lives.

Its horrible but so awesome at the same time.

[BlueHen86]

Cluck and Tman are making this thread look like another Sandy Hook massacre the way they are killing it and beating libs within an inch of their government mandated lives.

Its horrible but so awesome at the same time.

T'man is cranky because he can't shit with cluck so far up his ass. You're only going to make things worse for him.