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Grizalltheway wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You arent just curious- youre playing pretend 'introspective passive aggressive moderate' again

JSO was correct when he pointed out that wealth is not fixed in quantity

there is a debt problem because our government cannot survive on less than 3.6 trillion dollars per year

it really is that simple
Of course wealth isn't fixed. But there is a "pie" of it of a certain size at any given time, and it's irrefutable that a smaller and smaller portion of the populace is controlling more and more of it. You may or may not see an issue with that, but them's the facts. :coffee:
As long as we have lobbyists who can manipulate policy and the wealthy are able to steer legislation we'll continue to see something of a laissez faire approach to regulation and rich will continue to get richer.
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Baldy wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Is this all you guys have got?
A thread starts about Wealth control and that 400 individuals control more cash than 150Million people
and Executives (perfectly unqualified executives that I mentioned above) get compensation packages that should be an embarrassment to ALL ($ 25 million dollar salaries and stock packages that are in the hundred million dollar range)

American cronyism - The appointment of sons of former elite to positions of authority, without proper regard to their qualifications... See Northrop Gummy bear as your classic example

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I understand, it sucks. :coffee:

What I don't understand is the obsession some people have with worrying about privileged rich people and their money. I'm sorry, but I have more important things to worry about. :|
Now THAT ^ is a strong post... Yes, thank you
It does suck and it should be the SHAME of this Nation and it's system

that said, and as you pointed out: Each of us wakes up in the morning with a handful of opportunities - most of which (like all opportunities) come disguised as hard work - we choose to either do the work or not do the work

:nod:
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Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote: I understand, it sucks. :coffee:

What I don't understand is the obsession some people have with worrying about privileged rich people and their money. I'm sorry, but I have more important things to worry about. :|
Now THAT ^ is a strong post... Yes, thank you
It does suck and it should be the SHAME of this Nation and it's system

that said, and as you pointed out: Each of us wakes up in the morning with a handful of opportunities - most of which (like all opportunities) come disguised as hard work - we choose to either do the work or not do the work

:nod:
see there you go again

if word of you saying things like this gets out over there in Seattle they are going to break out the torches and pitchforks
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ASUG8 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Of course wealth isn't fixed. But there is a "pie" of it of a certain size at any given time, and it's irrefutable that a smaller and smaller portion of the populace is controlling more and more of it. You may or may not see an issue with that, but them's the facts. :coffee:
As long as we have lobbyists who can manipulate policy and the wealthy are able to steer legislation we'll continue to see something of a laissez faire approach to regulation and rich will continue to get richer.
Troof. :|
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Now THAT ^ is a strong post... Yes, thank you
It does suck and it should be the SHAME of this Nation and it's system

that said, and as you pointed out: Each of us wakes up in the morning with a handful of opportunities - most of which (like all opportunities) come disguised as hard work - we choose to either do the work or not do the work

:nod:
see there you go again

if word of you saying things like this gets out over there in Seattle they are going to break out the torches and pitchforks
I am regarded with a fairly high level of suspicion already...
(some of them are on to me)

That said:
I don't just ignore the outrageous abuse of cronyism in this country and dismiss it as "Oh well"
Just the casual price of a crumbling Republic better steal while you can

It is OUR SHAME and OUR PRESENT SYSTEM than encourages this unbelievable scale of abuse
and it is only getting worse (not better) and I do believe (ultimately) long after I'm dead and gone it will be the French Revolution all over again - Right Here in Good old America

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Chizzang wrote:it will be the French Revolution all over again - Right Here in Good old America

:nod:
And you'd be thrilled to see it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/1039 ... rrage.html
More than 70 per cent of the French feel taxes are “excessive”, and 80 per cent believe the president’s economic policy is “misguided” and “inefficient”. This goes far beyond the tax exiles such as Gérard Depardieu, members of the Peugeot family or Chanel’s owners. Worse, after decades of living in one of the most redistributive systems in western Europe, 54 per cent of the French believe that taxes – of which there have been 84 new ones in the past two years, rising from 42 per cent of GDP in 2009 to 46.3 per cent this year – now widen social inequalities instead of reducing them.
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
see there you go again

if word of you saying things like this gets out over there in Seattle they are going to break out the torches and pitchforks
I am regarded with a fairly high level of suspicion already...
(some of them are on to me)

That said:
I don't just ignore the outrageous abuse of cronyism in this country and dismiss it as "Oh well"
Just the casual price of a crumbling Republic better steal while you can

It is OUR SHAME and OUR PRESENT SYSTEM than encourages this unbelievable scale of abuse
and it is only getting worse (not better) and I do believe (ultimately) long after I'm dead and gone it will be the French Revolution all over again - Right Here in Good old America

:nod:
i agree

which is why i am a supporter of an unfettered 2nd Amendment- it is my abortion, my same sex marriage, my whacko tea party thing, my old testament adam wore a fig leaf just 6000 years ago thing

Im pretty flexible on just about everything else
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ASUG8 wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
Of course wealth isn't fixed. But there is a "pie" of it of a certain size at any given time, and it's irrefutable that a smaller and smaller portion of the populace is controlling more and more of it. You may or may not see an issue with that, but them's the facts. :coffee:
As long as we have lobbyists who can manipulate policy and the wealthy are able to steer legislation we'll continue to see something of a laissez faire approach to regulation and rich will continue to get richer.
When you have politicians who get elected to Congress with average means to become "public servants" and leave as multi millionaires, that is the system we are going to have, unfortunately.

Term limits is the first step in the process.
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It's nice to see everyone begrudgingly agree with me in the end. :mrgreen:
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kalm wrote:It's nice to see everyone begrudgingly agree with me in the end. :mrgreen:
What did I agree with this time :? :)
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OL FU wrote:
kalm wrote:It's nice to see everyone begrudgingly agree with me in the end. :mrgreen:
What did I agree with this time :? :)
kalms straw man
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CID1990 wrote:
OL FU wrote:
What did I agree with this time :? :)
kalms straw man
Yet there you were agreeing with Chiizy's last post which (as you know) was my point all along.

So...apology accepted. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
kalms straw man
Yet there you were agreeing with Chiizy's last post which (as you know) was my point all along.

So...apology accepted. :coffee:
He finds me more agreeable than you :kisswink:
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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yet there you were agreeing with Chiizy's last post which (as you know) was my point all along.

So...apology accepted. :coffee:
He finds me more agreeable than you :kisswink:
Yes. He clearly doesn't like me. :cry:
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Speaking of hard work...anybody want to help me move 4 tons of stone tomorrow? :suspicious:

I'm buying the beer and pizza (good stuff, not that Bud Light and Grotto's crap).
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
kalms straw man
Yet there you were agreeing with Chiizy's last post which (as you know) was my point all along.

So...apology accepted. :coffee:
if you had read carefully you would see that i agreed with chizz that we are going to have another internal armed conflict in the US

maybe after we are dead and gone

you havent postulated anything in this thread- youve just asked a few vague, baited questions that allow you to declare rhetorical victory regardless if which way the thread turns

given your vague twenty degrees of relevance approach to forum discussion i suppose i did agree with you- that the french revolution was about cake, airplanes with the forward canard configuration are more efficient, and polar bears sh1t icicles

whatever you want to read into it
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Yet there you were agreeing with Chiizy's last post which (as you know) was my point all along.

So...apology accepted. :coffee:
if you had read carefully you would see that i agreed with chizz that we are going to have another internal armed conflict in the US

maybe after we are dead and gone

you havent postulated anything in this thread- youve just asked a few vague, baited questions that allow you to declare rhetorical victory regardless if which way the thread turns

given your vague twenty degrees of relevance approach to forum discussion i suppose i did agree with you- that the french revolution was about cake, airplanes with the forward canard configuration are more efficient, and polar bears sh1t icicles

whatever you want to read into it
Answer the questions you grumpy bastard... :kisswink:
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