I know. It’s hard being simultaneously opposed to the world’s leading epidemiologists, virologists, military experts, historians, and climatologists.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:27 pmTribal by trying to label me as some sort of Putin puppet, if I don't support the slaughter of military age boys in Ukraine. Heaven forbid someone actually do some research and realize just how much the US has been pushing this and fucked it up.
Same with COVID. If I wasn't on board acting like a sheep over technology I completely understood, I was a grandma killer.
You keep saying you are post partisan, but then reflexively take the side of the least informed while trying to vilify those who don't take your stance. You're tribal as hell bro.
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Bwahaha. All you got is the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority? Their track record speaks for itself.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:35 amI know. It’s hard being simultaneously opposed to the world’s leading epidemiologists, virologists, military experts, historians, and climatologists.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:27 pm
Tribal by trying to label me as some sort of Putin puppet, if I don't support the slaughter of military age boys in Ukraine. Heaven forbid someone actually do some research and realize just how much the US has been pushing this and fucked it up.
Same with COVID. If I wasn't on board acting like a sheep over technology I completely understood, I was a grandma killer.
You keep saying you are post partisan, but then reflexively take the side of the least informed while trying to vilify those who don't take your stance. You're tribal as hell bro.
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* appeal to education, accreditation, and experience.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:10 amBwahaha. All you got is the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority? Their track record speaks for itself.
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No.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:22 am* appeal to education, accreditation, and experience.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:10 am
Bwahaha. All you got is the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority? Their track record speaks for itself.
The day you realize profits are put far ahead of altruism will be the day you start figuring it out.
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Let's check that track record
COVID. You get vaccinated, you won't catch COVID is where they started. We all saw how claim after claim fell to the wayside and now demand has collapsed for the vaccine. That speaks volumes.
Climate change. Predictions started with global cooling and went to global warming to now anytime the wind blows. The models are a joke and they have not been able to predict anything.
Ukraine. Russia will be crushed by sanctions, Russia is losing and Putin will be overthrown. The reality is Ukraine got forced into sending 350k able bodied men into a meat grinder with no hope.
Your experts seem to get it about as right as the football pundits who always pick UNI in the top 5 to start the season, only to see them exit early.
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Have anything new material?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:54 amNo.
Let's check that track record
COVID. You get vaccinated, you won't catch COVID is where they started. We all saw how claim after claim fell to the wayside and now demand has collapsed for the vaccine. That speaks volumes.
Climate change. Predictions started with global cooling and went to global warming to now anytime the wind blows. The models are a joke and they have not been able to predict anything.
Ukraine. Russia will be crushed by sanctions, Russia is losing and Putin will be overthrown. The reality is Ukraine got forced into sending 350k able bodied men into a meat grinder with no hope.
Your experts seem to get it about as right as the football pundits who always pick UNI in the top 5 to start the season, only to see them exit early.
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another genius that won't be recognized in his own time...or any other timekalm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:35 amI know. It’s hard being simultaneously opposed to the world’s leading epidemiologists, virologists, military experts, historians, and climatologists.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Aug 19, 2023 7:27 pm
Tribal by trying to label me as some sort of Putin puppet, if I don't support the slaughter of military age boys in Ukraine. Heaven forbid someone actually do some research and realize just how much the US has been pushing this and fucked it up.
Same with COVID. If I wasn't on board acting like a sheep over technology I completely understood, I was a grandma killer.
You keep saying you are post partisan, but then reflexively take the side of the least informed while trying to vilify those who don't take your stance. You're tribal as hell bro.
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Wrong from the jump. Nobody outside Wackjob Central ever said you won't get covid if you get vaccinated. So I'll assume that the rest of your reflexive jabbering is also bullshit. We'll address that but first we'll need to feed you truth in small doses until your system learns how to process itSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:54 amNo.
Let's check that track record
COVID. You get vaccinated, you won't catch COVID is where they started. We all saw how claim after claim fell to the wayside and now demand has collapsed for the vaccine. That speaks volumes.
Climate change. Predictions started with global cooling and went to global warming to now anytime the wind blows. The models are a joke and they have not been able to predict anything.
Ukraine. Russia will be crushed by sanctions, Russia is losing and Putin will be overthrown. The reality is Ukraine got forced into sending 350k able bodied men into a meat grinder with no hope.
Your experts seem to get it about as right as the football pundits who always pick UNI in the top 5 to start the season, only to see them exit early.
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Huh. Seems the guy you voted for said that. I'm going to just go with the short list moving forward with you. That short list would be the few items you actually get correct.houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:23 amWrong from the jump. Nobody outside Wackjob Central ever said you won't get covid if you get vaccinated. So I'll assume that the rest of your reflexive jabbering is also bullshit. We'll address that but first we'll need to feed you truth in small doses until your system learns how to process itSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:54 am
No.
Let's check that track record
COVID. You get vaccinated, you won't catch COVID is where they started. We all saw how claim after claim fell to the wayside and now demand has collapsed for the vaccine. That speaks volumes.
Climate change. Predictions started with global cooling and went to global warming to now anytime the wind blows. The models are a joke and they have not been able to predict anything.
Ukraine. Russia will be crushed by sanctions, Russia is losing and Putin will be overthrown. The reality is Ukraine got forced into sending 350k able bodied men into a meat grinder with no hope.
Your experts seem to get it about as right as the football pundits who always pick UNI in the top 5 to start the season, only to see them exit early.
Not to mention he also said he wouldn't take the vaccine until the data was released, which it still hasn't. Seems the guy you voted for played politics with lives...and you support him. Oof.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-bu ... e2ae9a0211
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden offered an absolute guarantee Wednesday that people who get their COVID-19 vaccines are completely protected from infection, sickness and death from the coronavirus.
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Don't need new material. Your experts can't answer their current failures. It's interesting to see you double down when there currently plenty of experienced, credentialed experts that got it right.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:14 amHave anything new material?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:54 am
No.
Let's check that track record
COVID. You get vaccinated, you won't catch COVID is where they started. We all saw how claim after claim fell to the wayside and now demand has collapsed for the vaccine. That speaks volumes.
Climate change. Predictions started with global cooling and went to global warming to now anytime the wind blows. The models are a joke and they have not been able to predict anything.
Ukraine. Russia will be crushed by sanctions, Russia is losing and Putin will be overthrown. The reality is Ukraine got forced into sending 350k able bodied men into a meat grinder with no hope.
Your experts seem to get it about as right as the football pundits who always pick UNI in the top 5 to start the season, only to see them exit early.
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Is the earth really round?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:01 amDon't need new material. Your experts can't answer their current failures. It's interesting to see you double down when there currently plenty of experienced, credentialed experts that got it right.
Is carbon dating a made up thing by the scientists?
Skywalker ranch?
Lizard people?
Jewish space lasers?
It’s all so hard to keep track of…
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kalm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 12:08 pmIs the earth really round?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:01 am
Don't need new material. Your experts can't answer their current failures. It's interesting to see you double down when there currently plenty of experienced, credentialed experts that got it right.
Is carbon dating a made up thing by the scientists?
Skywalker ranch?
Lizard people?
Jewish space lasers?
It’s all so hard to keep track of…
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....he isn't from outside Wackjob Central. Next.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:53 amHuh. Seems the guy you voted for said that. I'm going to just go with the short list moving forward with you. That short list would be the few items you actually get correct.houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:23 am
Wrong from the jump. Nobody outside Wackjob Central ever said you won't get covid if you get vaccinated. So I'll assume that the rest of your reflexive jabbering is also bullshit. We'll address that but first we'll need to feed you truth in small doses until your system learns how to process it
Not to mention he also said he wouldn't take the vaccine until the data was released, which it still hasn't. Seems the guy you voted for played politics with lives...and you support him. Oof.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-bu ... e2ae9a0211
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden offered an absolute guarantee Wednesday that people who get their COVID-19 vaccines are completely protected from infection, sickness and death from the coronavirus.
My personal experience is that he's right: I took all the boosters and shit and wouldn't have known I had it if I hadn't tested because a friend caught it. Never felt a thing.
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houndawg wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:18 pm....he isn't from outside Wackjob Central. Next.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:53 am
Huh. Seems the guy you voted for said that. I'm going to just go with the short list moving forward with you. That short list would be the few items you actually get correct.
Not to mention he also said he wouldn't take the vaccine until the data was released, which it still hasn't. Seems the guy you voted for played politics with lives...and you support him. Oof.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-bu ... e2ae9a0211
My personal experience is that he's right: I took all the boosters and shit and wouldn't have known I had it if I hadn't tested because a friend caught it. Never felt a thing.![]()
None of my family got one shot and the only one we think that got COVID was my daughter, and that was through a rapid test, so not sure if it was a false positive.
Outside that, my kids had around 25 PCR tests due to school policy of being exposed and none were positive.
According to models, and I honestly think models are terrible, around 80% of the population had some level of preexisting immunity due to enough similarities of our regular viruses.
...and this.
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My match play semifinal opponent had to postpone today’s match because he just got it.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:46 pmBut you still voted for him? That's telling.
None of my family got one shot and the only one we think that got COVID was my daughter, and that was through a rapid test, so not sure if it was a false positive.
Outside that, my kids had around 25 PCR tests due to school policy of being exposed and none were positive.
According to models, and I honestly think models are terrible, around 80% of the population had some level of preexisting immunity due to enough similarities of our regular viruses.
...and this.
But why is such an esteemed scientist such as yourself using anecdotal evidence anyway?
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Because it reinforces the IFR.kalm wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:34 pmMy match play semifinal opponent had to postpone today’s match because he just got it.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:46 pm
But you still voted for him? That's telling.
None of my family got one shot and the only one we think that got COVID was my daughter, and that was through a rapid test, so not sure if it was a false positive.
Outside that, my kids had around 25 PCR tests due to school policy of being exposed and none were positive.
According to models, and I honestly think models are terrible, around 80% of the population had some level of preexisting immunity due to enough similarities of our regular viruses.
...and this.
But why is such an esteemed scientist such as yourself using anecdotal evidence anyway?
Was your friend vaxxed?
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My political chops compared to Jacques Baud’s are similar to your virology chops compared to Fauxi’s.SeattleGriz wrote:But you still voted for him? That's telling.
None of my family got one shot and the only one we think that got COVID was my daughter, and that was through a rapid test, so not sure if it was a false positive.
Outside that, my kids had around 25 PCR tests due to school policy of being exposed and none were positive.
According to models, and I honestly think models are terrible, around 80% of the population had some level of preexisting immunity due to enough similarities of our regular viruses.
...and this.
Putting down my political chops is an ad hominem attack and comparing Ukraine to Switzerland is a false equivalency.
This whole thing didn’t start with Ukraine preventing the russian language from being spoken or shelling Donbas. Ukrainians were responding to russian attempts to meddle in their internal affairs after hundreds of years of oppression (going back to the Czars) by those same Russians. Neocons didn’t send those hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to their death. They went to war to defend their nations very existence after an illegal invasion.
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UNI88 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:02 pmMy political chops compared to Jacques Baud’s are similar to your virology chops compared to Fauxi’s.SeattleGriz wrote:
But you still voted for him? That's telling.
None of my family got one shot and the only one we think that got COVID was my daughter, and that was through a rapid test, so not sure if it was a false positive.
Outside that, my kids had around 25 PCR tests due to school policy of being exposed and none were positive.
According to models, and I honestly think models are terrible, around 80% of the population had some level of preexisting immunity due to enough similarities of our regular viruses.
...and this.
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He was miles ahead of the competition is whats telling. Most voters agreed with me.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:46 pmBut you still voted for him? That's telling.
None of my family got one shot and the only one we think that got COVID was my daughter, and that was through a rapid test, so not sure if it was a false positive.
Outside that, my kids had around 25 PCR tests due to school policy of being exposed and none were positive.
According to models, and I honestly think models are terrible, around 80% of the population had some level of preexisting immunity due to enough similarities of our regular viruses.
...and this.
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Okay, so that makes you and Ganny as the only two willing to admit you voted for Grampa Badfinger aka Robert Peters.houndawg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:55 amHe was miles ahead of the competition is whats telling. Most voters agreed with me.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:46 pm
But you still voted for him? That's telling.
None of my family got one shot and the only one we think that got COVID was my daughter, and that was through a rapid test, so not sure if it was a false positive.
Outside that, my kids had around 25 PCR tests due to school policy of being exposed and none were positive.
According to models, and I honestly think models are terrible, around 80% of the population had some level of preexisting immunity due to enough similarities of our regular viruses.
...and this.
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+ kalm.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:02 pmOkay, so that makes you and Ganny as the only two willing to admit you voted for Grampa Badfinger.
Do we need to do a poll on who the gullible putzes were who voted for Grampa Tiny Hands?
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For 81,000,000 people its all ancient history.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:02 pmOkay, so that makes you and Ganny as the only two willing to admit you voted for Grampa Badfinger aka Robert Peters.
You're like those Japanese soldiers that were turning up on remote Pacific islands back in the 80s still trying to fight the fight that the rest of the planet had long forgotten. Some of them, very similar to yourself, went back into the jungle even after their former commanding officer flew out to the islands 40 years later and told them the war had been over for decades.
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UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:07 pm+ kalm.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:02 pm
Okay, so that makes you and Ganny as the only two willing to admit you voted for Grampa Badfinger.
Do we need to do a poll on who the gullible putzes were who voted for Grampa Tiny Hands?
Anybody selling Mushroom Dick '24 posters yet? Something to cover up that spot on the bumper where the MAGA sticker used to be....
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This is a direct result of Biden.
US now offering to "look the other way" if Saudi develops nukes. Trying to keep them from going all in with BRICS. That's what confiscating a country's money will do for you.
Oh that's right. All you uninformed twats bought into that move as well.
US now offering to "look the other way" if Saudi develops nukes. Trying to keep them from going all in with BRICS. That's what confiscating a country's money will do for you.
Oh that's right. All you uninformed twats bought into that move as well.
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Oh my goodness. STOP THE PRESSES!SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 7:10 amBwahaha. All you got is the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority? Their track record speaks for itself.
The day you realize profits are put far ahead of altruism will be the day you start figuring it out.
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Who confiscated whose money, now?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:33 pm This is a direct result of Biden.
US now offering to "look the other way" if Saudi develops nukes. Trying to keep them from going all in with BRICS. That's what confiscating a country's money will do for you.
Oh that's right. All you uninformed twats bought into that move as well.


