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If you're wearing a MAGA hat you've done something wrong. It's like wearing a NAZI swastika armband. One does not need more than that to identify you for what you are.
Stop it with the historically inaccurate comparisons, both you and Alyssa Milano. I don't approve of Trump, I didn't vote for him, I'll never vote for him, and I think there is a dangerous undercurrent of racism that tinges a lot of the Trumpkins. With that said, it's still just politics. No one with MAGA hats have made it national policy to have a program to eradicate millions of people inside the US based on their religion or genetic makeup like the Nazis did. No one with MAGA hats have attacked polling places in large numbers, murdered Blacks who tried to vote or the non-Blacks that helped them like the KKK did in the post-war South. You weaken your own points when you fall back onto trite and incorrect historical comparisons. If you had gone with a "Know-Nothing" comparison, minus the violence of that movement, you'd be closer to the mark, but I somehow think you're probably pro-"Know-Nothing" anyway.
He’s just “know nothing”. Period.
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mainejeff wrote:
He would if he could....be a dictator that is.

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And just think, if we were a socialist country, he probably COULD be. So thank god for capitalism and the democratic republic that is America!
He would never President though.....
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mainejeff wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
And just think, if we were a socialist country, he probably COULD be. So thank god for capitalism and the democratic republic that is America!
He would never President though.....
Oh the irony that in YOUR perfect world, your worst fear would actually come true. Trump as dictator.

Honestly, how do you sleep at night with that dichotomy running through your head all night?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
He would never President though.....
Oh the irony that in YOUR perfect world, your worst fear would actually come true. Trump as dictator.

Honestly, how do you sleep at night with that dichotomy running through your head all night?
A bottle of Merlot darling.....

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mainejeff wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Oh the irony that in YOUR perfect world, your worst fear would actually come true. Trump as dictator.

Honestly, how do you sleep at night with that dichotomy running through your head all night?
A bottle of Merlot darling.....

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∞∞∞ wrote:Oh here we go again...the irrelevant Venezuela argument. :roll:
Is that related to the irrelevant libertarians want Somalia argument? Or the Trump is Hitler and/or conservatives are Nazis argument?

All sides do it, you just happen to be naive and myopic enough to think that your sides arguments are just and the other sides' are irrelevant.
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If deficits matter (modern monetary theory folks and neo-cons don't think they do) then a 70% top marginal tax rate (along with increasing corporate tax rates) is no less pie in the sky than a flat tax is. It's the old adage about not starting negotiations from a position of where you'll find it acceptable to end up. Or as the author implies with the new hot phrase...expand the Overton Window.
Today, in a way that hasn’t been true for decades, more Americans are at least aware of something that might otherwise have been ignored as either overly wonky or, well, crazy. The 70 percent figure proposed by Ocasio-Cortez was a subject of debate—and derision—at Davos. But by joking about it, billionaires and aspiring billionaires, in effect, helped legitimate it. After all, if the richest people in the world are worried about it, it might just be a good idea. (And Dell CEO Michael Dell unintentionally helped remind the audience that the United States had a 70 percent marginal rate as recently as the 1970s). The economist William Gale, my Brookings colleague, wrote a piece responding to Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal, taking issue with the 70 percent figure but agreeing with the underlying principle: “Ultimately, if we want more revenue from the rich, we should broaden the base and boost rates. Raising taxes on the rich is an idea whose time has come, receiving consistent support in polls over the last few decades.”
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She's the de facto leader of the Democratic Party

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/02/04/ ... president/

I've said it before.... she's Trump in photonegative.. the worst elements of the left will love her, and the moderate elements of the left will be silent or deny that she is, in fact, the leader of the Democratic Party
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CID1990 wrote:She's the de facto leader of the Democratic Party

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/02/04/ ... president/

I've said it before.... she's Trump in photonegative.. the worst elements of the left will love her, and the moderate elements of the left will be silent or deny that she is, in fact, the leader of the Democratic Party

The political pendulum swings hard... in a knee jerk world

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CID1990 wrote:She's the de facto leader of the Democratic Party

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/02/04/ ... president/

I've said it before.... she's Trump in photonegative.. the worst elements of the left will love her, and the moderate elements of the left will be silent or deny that she is, in fact, the leader of the Democratic Party
:rofl: She’s the leader just because Micheal Moore says she is?
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AZGrizFan wrote:
CID1990 wrote:She's the de facto leader of the Democratic Party

https://hotair.com/archives/2019/02/04/ ... president/

I've said it before.... she's Trump in photonegative.. the worst elements of the left will love her, and the moderate elements of the left will be silent or deny that she is, in fact, the leader of the Democratic Party
:rofl: She’s the leader just because Micheal Moore says she is?
Well, what is your opinion of the wide range of voices in the media and even on this board who say Trump is the leader of the GOP?

You don’t think she is the standard bearer of the progressive boilerplate?


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CID1990 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
:rofl: She’s the leader just because Micheal Moore says she is?
Well, what is your opinion of the wide range of voices in the media and even on this board who say Trump is the leader of the GOP?

You don’t think she is the standard bearer of the progressive boilerplate?
One is the President of the United States
The other is a gadfly
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Well, what is your opinion of the wide range of voices in the media and even on this board who say Trump is the leader of the GOP?

You don’t think she is the standard bearer of the progressive boilerplate?
One is the President of the United States
The other is a gadfly
A gadfly that all the so-far announced Democratic Presidential candidates are trying to emulate or move further left of...

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Col Hogan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
One is the President of the United States
The other is a gadfly
A gadfly that all the so-far announced Democratic Presidential candidates are trying to emulate or move further left of...

:coffee: :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
A gadfly that all the so-far announced Democratic Presidential candidates are trying to emulate or move further left of...

:coffee: :coffee:
Bernie was that guy before that guy was cool.
The establishment hates her and hates Bernie. You two need to get out more.
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Bernie was that guy before that guy was cool.
The establishment hates her and hates Bernie. You two need to get out more.
No, not possible. CID and Michael Moore say she's the new leader in the clubhouse... :? :?
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Well, what is your opinion of the wide range of voices in the media and even on this board who say Trump is the leader of the GOP?

You don’t think she is the standard bearer of the progressive boilerplate?
One is the President of the United States
The other is a gadfly
And four years ago that’s how we would have described Trump and Obama

I think it is more likely she gets whacked by the Pelosi wing of the Dem party than she’ll one day be President (Pelosi already smacked her down on committee appointments)

But she’s literally an avatar of the progressive platform - the second any Dem politician espouses some policy desire or another, the media scurries over to see what she thinks about it

Her 2020 endorsement will be carried around like the Stanley Cup


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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Bernie was that guy before that guy was cool.
The establishment hates her and hates Bernie. You two need to get out more.
...been trying to tell them for years. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
One is the President of the United States
The other is a gadfly
And four years ago that’s how we would have described Trump and Obama

I think it is more likely she gets whacked by the Pelosi wing of the Dem party than she’ll one day be President (Pelosi already smacked her down on committee appointments)

But she’s literally an avatar of the progressive platform - the second any Dem politician espouses some policy desire or another, the media scurries over to see what she thinks about it

Her 2020 endorsement will be carried around like the Stanley Cup


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Ivytalk wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
And four years ago that’s how we would have described Trump and Obama

I think it is more likely she gets whacked by the Pelosi wing of the Dem party than she’ll one day be President (Pelosi already smacked her down on committee appointments)

But she’s literally an avatar of the progressive platform - the second any Dem politician espouses some policy desire or another, the media scurries over to see what she thinks about it

Her 2020 endorsement will be carried around like the Stanley Cup


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Bitch can’t skate.
She's a good dancer though

And cute
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CID1990 wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Bitch can’t skate.
She's a good dancer though

And cute
And every red-blooded American male on this board (except dback and mangejeff) has fantasized about her.

She’s the JLo of her generation.
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Ivytalk wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
She's a good dancer though

And cute
And every red-blooded American male on this board (except dback and mangejeff) has fantasized about her.

She’s the JLo of her generation.
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I still have J-Lo, Salma, Penelope, etc., etc.... :nod: :nod: :nod:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: And every red-blooded American male on this board (except dback and mangejeff) has fantasized about her.

She’s the JLo of her generation.
:tothehand: :tothehand: :tothehand:
I still have J-Lo, Salma, Penelope, etc., etc.... :nod: :nod: :nod:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :tothehand: :tothehand: :tothehand:
I still have J-Lo, Salma, Penelope, etc., etc.... :nod: :nod: :nod:
Don't know if you've seen the new Narcos yets, but there's an actress in it that you would REALLY like.

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AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Don't know if you've seen the new Narcos yets, but there's an actress in it that you would REALLY like.

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I have not, but now I most certainly will.
It's very good, she's just an added bonus. :nod:
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