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Skjellyfetti wrote:Mueller bringing in $50k a day from Mystery Foreign Owned Company refusing to comply with subpoena. :clap:

Mueller may end up draining the swamp and balancing the budget. ;)
The Mueller investigation is costing over 50k a day..
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SDHornet wrote:The CS.com leftists and never Trumpers having a circle jerk about a convicted felon and proven liar "spilling the beans" on Trump reeks of desperation. That major whiff on the Trump Russia collusion must be stinging quite a bit. :lol:
Yep. Someone wake me up when there is something about Trump Russia collusion.. :sleep:
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BDKJMU wrote:
SDHornet wrote:The CS.com leftists and never Trumpers having a circle jerk about a convicted felon and proven liar "spilling the beans" on Trump reeks of desperation. That major whiff on the Trump Russia collusion must be stinging quite a bit. :lol:
Yep. Someone wake me up when there is something about Trump Russia collusion.. :sleep:
Didn’t he also take in $16M from Manafort or something?


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So Cohen is a liar for lying about Trump?
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kalm wrote:So Cohen is a liar for lying about Trump?
No he is a liar for lying about Trump, Cohen, to a court, to Congress, and whenever his lips move.


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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Yep. Someone wake me up when there is something about Trump Russia collusion.. :sleep:
Didn’t he also take in $16M from Manafort or something?


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BDK always ignores the second order of the investigation:
"(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation;"

But let's say Trump isn't found colluding with Russia, I wonder if BDK is ok with all the other crimes the Pres has likely committed? I guess if I'm innocent of murder, he'd defend me for robbing a bank.
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Ibanez wrote: Didn’t he also take in $16M from Manafort or something?


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BDK always ignores the second order of the investigation:
a fishing expedition investigation in search of a crime

But let's say Trump isn't found colluding with Russia, I wonder if BDK is ok with all the other crimes the Pres has likely committed? I guess if I'm innocent of murder, he'd defend me for robbing a bank.
FIFY..
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BDKJMU wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: BDK always ignores the second order of the investigation:
a fishing expedition investigation in search of a crime

But let's say Trump isn't found colluding with Russia, I wonder if BDK is ok with all the other crimes the Pres has likely committed? I guess if I'm innocent of murder, he'd defend me for robbing a bank.
FIFY..
So if tax evasion is discovered during a collusion investigation, we ignore it? How 'bout a pedophile ring? Or murder? What's the line? Do you want the justice system to skip over crimes while investigating others? Should any person ever stopped for a broken taillight be freed after cocaine was found in their car?

Instead of changing my words, stand for something and make your opinion clear.
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Ibanez wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Yep. Someone wake me up when there is something about Trump Russia collusion.. :sleep:
Didn’t he also take in $16M from Manafort or something?


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$46 million in cash, real estate, and ostrich coats :D

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css75 wrote:
kalm wrote:So Cohen is a liar for lying about Trump?
No he is a liar for lying about Trump, Cohen, to a court, to Congress, and whenever his lips move.


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So he was lying about Trump from the start?
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kalm wrote:So Cohen is a liar for lying about Trump?
No he's just a liar so we can't be sure when he's telling the truth about Trump or anything else. He's a lot like Trump in that regard.

Watching both sides contort themselves as they flip flop their positions is ironic at best but then we live in the age of irony.

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kalm wrote:So Cohen is a liar for lying about Trump?
Lying Liars and the Lies They Tell

That’s the title of this book

Cohen’s testimony is fine in a political context - which is what most Cong. hearings are

But any court case dependent in his testimony is pretty much farked from the outset


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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:So Cohen is a liar for lying about Trump?
Lying Liars and the Lies They Tell

That’s the title of this book

Cohen’s testimony is fine in a political context - which is what most Cong. hearings are

But any court case dependent in his testimony is pretty much farked from the outset


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Does it strengthen if Weisselberg (who’s supposedly cooperating with investigators) corroborates it?

There’s also the supporting doc’s Cohen produced. It will be interesting to see if Mueller came up with anything from the raid of Chen’s office.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: FIFY..
So if tax evasion is discovered during a collusion investigation, we ignore it? How 'bout a pedophile ring? Or murder? What's the line? Do you want the justice system to skip over crimes while investigating others? Should any person ever stopped for a broken taillight be freed after cocaine was found in their car?

Instead of changing my words, stand for something and make your opinion clear.
I don't believe they are ignored. If they don't fall under the scope, they are referred to the SDNY.
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SDHornet wrote:The CS.com leftists and never Trumpers having a circle jerk about a convicted felon and proven liar "spilling the beans" on Trump reeks of desperation. That major whiff on the Trump Russia collusion must be stinging quite a bit. :lol:
:rofl:

Yeah this is from some Foxnews shill, but this pretty much sums up this Cohen show:
:coffee: 8-)
I guess its true what they say about payback. :ugeek:

And you aren't mad about him being a liar, you're just butthurt that he isn't lying for your side anymore. :coffee:

(So you think he forged Moscow Don's signature? :?)
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SDHornet wrote:The CS.com leftists and never Trumpers having a circle jerk about a convicted felon and proven liar "spilling the beans" on Trump reeks of desperation. That major whiff on the Trump Russia collusion must be stinging quite a bit. :lol:
:rofl:

Yeah this is from some Foxnews shill, but this pretty much sums up this Cohen show:
:coffee: 8-)
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Lying Liars and the Lies They Tell

That’s the title of this book

Cohen’s testimony is fine in a political context - which is what most Cong. hearings are

But any court case dependent in his testimony is pretty much farked from the outset


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Does it strengthen if Weisselberg (who’s supposedly cooperating with investigators) corroborates it?

There’s also the supporting doc’s Cohen produced. It will be interesting to see if Mueller came up with anything from the raid of Chen’s office.
Relax, Francis

Everything Cohen is saying might be 100% true

But an honest man doesn’t need layers of corroboration


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So Trump believes brutal dictators (Putin, Un and Salman) over his own defense and intelligence agencies ran by people HE picked...am I understanding that correctly?


:ohno: :ohno: That should be alarming people. Fox News and BDK would be mad as ants if Obama had taken Un at his word. But, we've learned that Trump surrounds himself with criminals and liars so maybe this is par for the course.

2019 is shaping up to be a very interesting year in American politics (history?)
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Does it strengthen if Weisselberg (who’s supposedly cooperating with investigators) corroborates it?

There’s also the supporting doc’s Cohen produced. It will be interesting to see if Mueller came up with anything from the raid of Chen’s office.
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But an honest man doesn’t need layers of corroboration


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Right. Which is why I asked the question. :?
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
Relax, Francis

Everything Cohen is saying might be 100% true

But an honest man doesn’t need layers of corroboration


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Right. Which is why I asked the question. :?
I don’t care about the question or the answer. I also don’t know who the guy you are talking about is.

I just like the Kabuki theater, and pointing out the ephemeral nature of political honesty




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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Right. Which is why I asked the question. :?
I don’t care about the question or the answer. I also don’t know who the guy you are talking about is.

I just like the Kabuki theater, and pointing out the ephemeral nature of political honesty




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Of course it’s Kabuki theater. Most of our politic is.

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houndawg wrote:
(So you think he forged Moscow Don's signature? :?)
Cohen also has a tape of them discussing it. :lol:
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
Does it strengthen if Weisselberg (who’s supposedly cooperating with investigators) corroborates it?

There’s also the supporting doc’s Cohen produced. It will be interesting to see if Mueller came up with anything from the raid of Chen’s office.
Relax, Francis

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But an honest man doesn’t need layers of corroboration


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Evidently he was aware of that.
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I don’t care about the question or the answer. I also don’t know who the guy you are talking about is.

I just like the Kabuki theater, and pointing out the ephemeral nature of political honesty




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Of course it’s Kabuki theater. Most of our politic is.

Weisselberg is the CFO of the Trump Organization. He signs the checks. He has been granted immunity.
Oh.

Well maybe Trump is screwed this time then?


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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I don’t care about the question or the answer. I also don’t know who the guy you are talking about is.

I just like the Kabuki theater, and pointing out the ephemeral nature of political honesty




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Of course it’s Kabuki theater. Most of our politic is.

Weisselberg is the CFO of the Trump Organization. He signs the checks. He has been granted immunity.
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