Сделаем Америку снова великой! Trump - Russia megathread

[Ibanez]

Exactly, and whoever first used "collusion" **** up. Conspired is the word they should've used. Did Trump and/or his campaign CONSPIRE with the Russians?

Mark... get with the program dude

I specifically used the words “conspired with Russians to throw the election” way back in this thread

My intent was to clearly specify what was being argued here

Of course Felchy took issue with it but it is already well established here that is what we are talking about

And that it didn’t occur

I know that's what we're discussing. I was reiterating that collusion isn't correct. It's conspiracy. I thought conspiracy since day 1. When we're talking about a crime..let's actually refer to a crime.

And honestly, I wouldn't put it past a person that associates themselves with Ray Cohn or Roger Stone/Paul Manafort to engage in something unethical and/or illegal.

[Ibanez]

Mark... get with the program dude

I specifically used the words “conspired with Russians to throw the election” way back in this thread

My intent was to clearly specify what was being argued here

Of course Felchy took issue with it but it is already well established here that is what we are talking about

And that it didn’t occur

Vermont has a Felchville

I had to explain to my wife, my sister-in-Law, and her husband what it meant

They were horrified

Imagine going through life as a Felch of Felchville

I had to explain to my M-I-L what bukkakke was.

[Skjellyfetti]

But the narrative is that he colluded with the Russians!

Exactly, and whoever first used "collusion" fucked up. Conspired is the word they should've used. Did Trump and/or his campaign CONSPIRE with the Russians?

He'll be angy at this, but Cid was the one to first start using "collusion" in this thread.

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... &start=450

[css75]

When is this nothing burger thread and investigation ending? Enough already.


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[CAA Flagship]

Mark... get with the program dude

I specifically used the words “conspired with Russians to throw the election” way back in this thread

My intent was to clearly specify what was being argued here

Of course Felchy took issue with it but it is already well established here that is what we are talking about

And that it didn’t occur

Vermont has a Felchville

I had to explain to my wife, my sister-in-Law, and her husband what it meant

They were horrified

Imagine going through life as a Felch of Felchville

And there is also a Felchville in Massachusetts.

[CID1990]

Exactly, and whoever first used "collusion" **** up. Conspired is the word they should've used. Did Trump and/or his campaign CONSPIRE with the Russians?

He'll be angy at this, but Cid was the one to first start using "collusion" in this thread.

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... &start=450

Of course - I was repeating the one word which was being used over and over and over in the media, both by the right and left.

It wasn’t until you started trying to adjust the goalposts about what you were asserting that I felt that a clear definition of what we were contemplating was warranted. One that was unequivocal and understandable to children and Democrats and you

[Vidav]

When is this nothing burger thread and investigation ending? Enough already.


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Just wow.

[SeattleGriz]

Filthy Felchy

[mainejeff]

So why did Comrade Trump just withdraw from the nuclear treaty with Russia?

[SeattleGriz]

Always wondered why Preistap was last man standing at the FBI.

Stzrok went around his boss directly to McCabe.

Below is the news org that keeps leaking the Pro-Trump stories, which have all been countered with a subsequent Anti-Trump story.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-f ... 82019.html

[mainejeff]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 737306002/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/puti ... se-n966146

Trump making the U.S. more secure & safe!

[CID1990]

So why did Comrade Trump just withdraw from the nuclear treaty with Russia?

That’s a good question, Jeff

Don’t venture too far down that rabbit hole, you might not like the logical conclusion

Unrelated but related: I do t know why we are both committed now to updating old nukes and creating new ones none of us will ever use

[houndawg]

Sorry. I thought you had access to an insider at the Special Counsel's office or the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Nah, just going off of what Cohen's own lawyer has said he's going to be able to answer, and that was when Cohen was anxious to appear. I suspect a lot of pleads to take the 5th or whatever else is necessary to avoid interfering with Mueller's case.

interfere with a nothingburger?

[SeattleGriz]

The supposed next revelations are going to be the Trump Jr meeting with the Russian gal (Veselnitskya ?) was a Hillary setup, for V met with Fusion GPS before and after the meeting.

And that Britain was much more involved.

Gotta love predictions and if they are correct.

Let me just leave this here as well. Past article on Hillary passing around the Obama Muslim garb photo. Seems the Clinton's have been playing this game for a long time.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/ ... aryclinton

[Skjellyfetti]

He'll be angy at this, but Cid was the one to first start using "collusion" in this thread.

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... &start=450

Of course - I was repeating the one word which was being used over and over and over in the media, both by the right and left.

It wasn’t until you started trying to adjust the goalposts about what you were asserting that I felt that a clear definition of what we were contemplating was warranted. One that was unequivocal and understandable to children and Democrats and you

Lol. I haven't adjusted the goalposts once.

You asked me probably a year or year and a half to set a definition. I replied with Rosenstein's definition. That hasnt changed.

any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.

[css75]

The supposed next revelations are going to be the Trump Jr meeting with the Russian gal (Veselnitskya ?) was a Hillary setup, for V met with Fusion GPS before and after the meeting.

And that Britain was much more involved.

Gotta love predictions and if they are correct.

Let me just leave this here as well. Past article on Hillary passing around the Obama Muslim garb photo. Seems the Clinton's have been playing this game for a long time.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/ ... aryclinton

Since Arkansas


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[mainejeff]

HDS (Hillary Derangement Syndrome) is alive and well!

[SeattleGriz]

HDS (Hillary Derangement Syndrome) is alive and well!

No, this to me is more about political insiders being treated differently than pretty much everyone else. Nothing new here, but it still bugs me.

[mainejeff]

HDS.

[Skjellyfetti]

Erickson, already mixed up in Russia probe, is charged with wire fraud and money laundering

A South Dakota man has been charged with wire fraud and money laundering just two months after his girlfriend pleaded guilty to acting as an illegal foreign agent for Russia.

Paul Erickson, 56, of Sioux Falls, was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury on 11 counts of wire fraud and money laundering, according to a news release issued Wednesday by Ron Parsons, the U.S. attorney for South Dakota.

Erickson appeared before U.S. Magistrate Judge Mark A. Moreno on Wednesday and pleaded not guilty.

The maximum penalty upon conviction is up to 20 years in federal prison for each count, a $250,000 fine for wire fraud, a $500,000 fine for money laundering, three years of supervised release, and up to $1,100 to the Federal Crime Victims Fund. Restitution may also be ordered.

The indictment alleges that on or about 1996 through August 2018, Erickson knowingly and unlawfully devised a scheme and artifice to defraud and to obtain money from many victims by means of false and fraudulent pretense, representations and promises.

Erickson owned and operated Compass Care Inc., Investing with Dignity LLC, and an unnamed venture to develop land in the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota. Erickson allegedly made various false and fraudulent representations to individuals located in South Dakota and elsewhere to induce those investors to give him money to invest in his businesses, as part of a scheme to defraud them and personally enrich himself.

The investigation is being conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation. Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey C. Clapper is prosecuting the case.

Erickson was released on a bond of an undisclosed amount. A trial date has not been set.

In December, Erickson's 30-year-old girlfriend, Maria Butina, pleaded guilty to acting as a foreign agent for her home country of Russia. She is awaiting sentencing.

Court documents in Butina's case repeatedly reference an alleged co-conspirator identified as U.S. Person 1, who is Erickson. But as of Wednesday, he had not been criminally charged for any Russia-related activities with Butina. The Butina case in Washington, D.C., and the wire-fraud and money laundering case against Erickson in South Dakota are technically separate cases, but court documents in the Butina case have indicated she was cooperating with investigators in South Dakota and was providing them with information about Erickson.

https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local ... e7bdc.html

[SDHornet]

So still nothing on Trump Russia collusion?


Or are donks still sulking after the Don Jr phone calls ended up being another nothingburger?

[Ivytalk]

Erickson, already mixed up in Russia probe, is charged with wire fraud and money laundering

A South Dakota man has been charged with wire fraud and money laundering just two months after his girlfriend pleaded guilty to acting as an illegal foreign agent for Russia.

Paul Erickson, 56, of Sioux Falls, was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury on 11 counts of wire fraud and money laundering, according to a news release issued Wednesday by Ron Parsons, the U.S. attorney for South Dakota.

Erickson appeared before U.S. Magistrate Judge Mark A. Moreno on Wednesday and pleaded not guilty.

The maximum penalty upon conviction is up to 20 years in federal prison for each count, a $250,000 fine for wire fraud, a $500,000 fine for money laundering, three years of supervised release, and up to $1,100 to the Federal Crime Victims Fund. Restitution may also be ordered.

The indictment alleges that on or about 1996 through August 2018, Erickson knowingly and unlawfully devised a scheme and artifice to defraud and to obtain money from many victims by means of false and fraudulent pretense, representations and promises.

Erickson owned and operated Compass Care Inc., Investing with Dignity LLC, and an unnamed venture to develop land in the Bakken oil fields in North Dakota. Erickson allegedly made various false and fraudulent representations to individuals located in South Dakota and elsewhere to induce those investors to give him money to invest in his businesses, as part of a scheme to defraud them and personally enrich himself.

The investigation is being conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation. Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey C. Clapper is prosecuting the case.

Erickson was released on a bond of an undisclosed amount. A trial date has not been set.

In December, Erickson's 30-year-old girlfriend, Maria Butina, pleaded guilty to acting as a foreign agent for her home country of Russia. She is awaiting sentencing.

Court documents in Butina's case repeatedly reference an alleged co-conspirator identified as U.S. Person 1, who is Erickson. But as of Wednesday, he had not been criminally charged for any Russia-related activities with Butina. The Butina case in Washington, D.C., and the wire-fraud and money laundering case against Erickson in South Dakota are technically separate cases, but court documents in the Butina case have indicated she was cooperating with investigators in South Dakota and was providing them with information about Erickson.

https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local ... e7bdc.html

So Butina was banging an old SoDak dude. Who knew? (Shades of Caramel doing Willie Brown)

[houndawg]

HDS (Hillary Derangement Syndrome) is alive and well!

There is a new drug-resistant strain - AOCD...

[houndawg]

So still nothing on Trump Russia collusion?


Or are donks still sulking after the Don Jr phone calls ended up being another nothingburger?

Huge nothingburger - CID's been an organization man his entire life and knows how these things work. If he says there is nothing there then there is probably nothing there.




The real fun will be watching the SDNY take all his money for back taxes.

[CID1990]

So still nothing on Trump Russia collusion?


Or are donks still sulking after the Don Jr phone calls ended up being another nothingburger?

Huge nothingburger - CID's been an organization man his entire life and knows how these things work. If he says there is nothing there then there is probably nothing there.




The real fun will be watching the SDNY take all his money for back taxes.

Wait for the Mueller report, Grasshoppa

then all will be over except for the Jelly “I never implied Russian collusion with Trump” flying goalpost extravaganza


Its going to be quite a ride


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