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mainejeff wrote:Y'all hoping and praying for RBG to die might be bigly disappointed when 70 year old Clarence Thomas pulls and Antonin Scalia after Trump gets booted from office and gets replaced by a liberal black lesbian.

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So, you return here with a raging case of Trump Derangement Syndrome and make up shit like this? THIS is the best you got? Trump ain’t going nowhere, Jeff. And even if he does, Pence will STILL get to seat the next two justices.
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mainejeff wrote:Y'all hoping and praying for RBG to die might be bigly disappointed when 70 year old Clarence Thomas pulls and Antonin Scalia after Trump gets booted from office and gets replaced by a liberal black lesbian.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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So, you return here with a raging case of Trump Derangement Syndrome and make up **** like this? THIS is the best you got? Trump ain’t going nowhere, Jeff. And even if he does, Pence will STILL get to seat the next two justices.
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mainejeff wrote:
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So, you return here with a raging case of Trump Derangement Syndrome and make up **** like this? THIS is the best you got? Trump ain’t going nowhere, Jeff. And even if he does, Pence will STILL get to seat the next two justices.
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Donks reach new low in bid to stop Kavanaugh :ohno:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/13/democrats ... kavanaugh/
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BDKJMU wrote:Donks reach new low in bid to stop Kavanaugh :ohno:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/13/democrats ... kavanaugh/
Wait, someone did something bad in high school? Holy shit, if that is the new standard no one will ever get to hold a position of leadership in the gubmint at any level. :rofl:

Well done donks, well done. :dunce: :lol:
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Just hold the damn vote

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CID1990 wrote:Just hold the damn vote
I'm sure you were saying the same thing circa March 2016. :roll:
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CID1990 wrote:Just hold the damn vote
I'm sure you were saying the same thing circa March 2016. :roll:
You mean when the donks didn't have the votes to confirm Garland? That vote?

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I don't think that's clear at all.

There's a good chance Garland would have been confirmed by the Senate. Which is why McConnell never let it come close to a vote. If he knew Garland would have lost the vote... he would have loved the opportunity to vote Obama's nominee down. But, it was too risky.

No way you can claim they didn't have the votes....
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Skjellyfetti wrote:I don't think that's clear at all.

There's a good chance Garland would have been confirmed by the Senate. Which is why McConnell never let it come close to a vote. If he knew Garland would have lost the vote... he would have loved the opportunity to vote Obama's nominee down. But, it was too risky.

No way you can claim they didn't have the votes....
Meh. Dems didn't control the Senate, therefore they didn't have the votes. Pretty straight forward. Not bringing it to the floor will probably go down as McConnell's best political maneuver ever.
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SDHornet wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:I don't think that's clear at all.

There's a good chance Garland would have been confirmed by the Senate. Which is why McConnell never let it come close to a vote. If he knew Garland would have lost the vote... he would have loved the opportunity to vote Obama's nominee down. But, it was too risky.

No way you can claim they didn't have the votes....
Meh. Dems didn't control the Senate, therefore they didn't have the votes. Pretty straight forward. Not bringing it to the floor will probably go down as McConnell's best political maneuver ever.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Just hold the damn vote
I'm sure you were saying the same thing circa March 2016. :roll:
I don't remember if I said it here, but YES

I'd friend you on Facebook so you could see me arguing for an up or down vote, and the same for all circus confirmations

But I don't want you queering out on my friends list and I don't feel the need to prove anything to you
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BDKJMU wrote:Donks reach new low in bid to stop Kavanaugh :ohno:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/13/democrats ... kavanaugh/
Regardless of party or how long ago, the victim should be believed until proven otherwise. Allegations should be taken seriously and thoroughly vetted.

However.. an anonymous letter makes it way to DiFi and alleges something from 35 years ago. I sort of understand the victim not wanting to be made public BUT if it's true, she's interjected herself into the public arena with an accusation that could have have wide-ranging consequences if they aren't real. And if it's true, and the Democrats are going to exploit her for political gain then that's just heinous (but not unexpected. I expect, if the roles were reversed, the Republicans would do the same thing.)

I don't go for conspiracy theories but that just reeks of it being fake. The Democrats, in the era of #PoundMeToo, suddenly have a letter that states 35 years ago, a teenager engaged in "sexual misconduct" with no other facts or proof and we're supposed to believe it? What is "sexual misconduct"? Is that a boyfriend convincing his girlfriend into giving him a bj or hj or zj? Women should not be coerced into doing anything against their will, regardless of age but there's something fishy about this story.
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There is no story, the FBI laughed at it & said they are not investigating. Desperate times for donks.
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SDHornet wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:I don't think that's clear at all.

There's a good chance Garland would have been confirmed by the Senate. Which is why McConnell never let it come close to a vote. If he knew Garland would have lost the vote... he would have loved the opportunity to vote Obama's nominee down. But, it was too risky.

No way you can claim they didn't have the votes....
Meh. Dems didn't control the Senate, therefore they didn't have the votes. Pretty straight forward. Not bringing it to the floor will probably go down as McConnell's best political maneuver ever.
Agreed, they didn't have control of the Senate so the GOP was always going to block Obama's pick at that point in time. Heck, that was still when the threshold was 60 votes, so it was always clear that Garland didn't have the 60 votes to continue with the nomination. And the voters punished the GOP after this by giving them control of the White House as well. When the other party controls the Senate, the President is always going to be in a tough spot. Darn Constitution.
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SDHornet wrote: Meh. Dems didn't control the Senate, therefore they didn't have the votes. Pretty straight forward. Not bringing it to the floor will probably go down as McConnell's best political maneuver ever.
Agreed, they didn't have control of the Senate so the GOP was always going to block Obama's pick at that point in time. Heck, that was still when the threshold was 60 votes, so it was always clear that Garland didn't have the 60 votes to continue with the nomination. And the voters punished the GOP after this by giving them control of the White House as well. When the other party controls the Senate, the President is always going to be in a tough spot. Darn Constitution.
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BDKJMU wrote:Donks reach new low in bid to stop Kavanaugh :ohno:
https://nypost.com/2018/09/13/democrats ... kavanaugh/
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Do the vote already, enough of this nonsense.


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Mark Judge - the 2nd person the woman accused - wrote a memoir which chronicles some of his time as a drunk at all-male Georgetown Prep, where he and his classmates would black-out at parties and get in general trouble. Judge changed names, but there is a friend listed as "Bart O'Kavanaugh" in it:

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The accuser went public over the weekend. The GOP better tread lightly; women are already fired up against the GOP and could be the deciding factor in the mid-terms (and beyond). This doesn't help...
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This is a fucking travesty. You should be embarrassed, trip...not PROMOTING this bull.
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AZGrizFan wrote:This is a **** travesty. You should be embarrassed, trip...not PROMOTING this bull.
There's a sexual assault accusation - bordering on attempted rape - which this lady first mentioned in 2012 to a counselor. And now she's putting her face and name out there, knowing conservatives will smear and harass her, because she feels so strongly about what happened that night.

2018 is a lot different than 1991; we live in the #MeToo era and there's no escaping past actions anymore. A lifetime appointment to the highest court should be investigated and vetted thoroughly (and this is ignoring all the documents the White House refuses to make available).

Also Maryland doesn't have statutes of limitations; if more evidence comes out, there is a real possibility Kavanaugh can be arrested. MD is a liberal stronghold, so they'd have no issues doing it.

My personal guess: Kavanaugh withdraws or his nomination fails.
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AZGrizFan wrote:This is a **** travesty. You should be embarrassed, trip...not PROMOTING this bull.
There's a sexual assault accusation - bordering on attempted rape - which this lady first mentioned in 2012 to a counselor. And now she's putting her face and name out there, knowing conservatives will smear and harass her, because she feels so strongly about what happened that night.

2018 is a lot different than 1991; we live in the #MeToo era and there's no escaping past actions anymore. A lifetime appointment to the highest court should be investigated and vetted thoroughly (and this is ignoring all the documents the White House refuses to make available).

Also Maryland doesn't have statute of limitations; if more evidence comes out, there is a real possibility Kavanaugh can be arrested. MD is also a liberal stronghold, so they'd have no issues doing it.

My personal guess: Kavanaugh withdraws or his nomination fails.
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Funny how this comes out at the last minute. Looks bogus to me.


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css75 wrote:Funny how this comes out at the last minute. Looks bogus to me.
Maybe, but female victims are feeling empowered to come out against their assailants (as they should). She also mentioned this six years ago to some people, so she might not be making it up. Hesitance to make it public - knowing there will be consequences - could be the reason it came out late.

I wouldn't be surprised either way, but it should be investigated. It doesn't help that Judge wrote a memoir saying that he and his buddies, including Kavanaugh, would get black-out drunk and wreak havoc at parties. Kavanaugh may have no recollection, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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[The Washington Post] said Christine Blasey Ford, a professor in California, reached out to the Post in July as Kavanaugh's name appeared on short lists to replace Justice Anthony Kennedy, but she opted not to speak with the Post on the record for weeks. As her private outreach to California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein became public over the past week, she decided to go ahead and speak out herself, Sunday's report said.

"Now I feel like my civic responsibility is outweighing my anguish and terror about retaliation," Ford told the Post.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/16/politics ... index.html

She was scared, which is a classic reaction to people/organizations with power.
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