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[Chizzang]

I make more than three of you combined.

Nice.

Jesus was all about the money.

[SeattleGriz]

I would argue - but I must be careful here - that a large percentage of American's who have no problem being called Christians (casually speaking) aren't concerned about Jesus and if he actually turned water into wine or walked on water or even returned from the dead...

There are millions of Americans (this is just a guess) based entirely on the FACT that over 90% of those who identify with Christianity haven't bothered to even read the Bible - any version old testament or new - and would casually say in conversation that Jesus simply identified "The proper God" as a kind of the Original Spokes person for God

What I'm saying is:
If you take away Jesus being the ACTUAL child of God
If you take away the walking on water nonsense and the miracles (etc)
If you even take away the returning from the dead

A huge number of Americans who have no problem being called Christians would still tell you with almost no hesitation that: Jesus was right... and Jesus was pointing the way



I believe the scientific destruction of hard core Christianity is becoming less important on a yearly basis
and many Loosely affiliated "Christians" have no issue with that - even thought - Technically this means they are NOT Christians - they don't know that... They are not waiting for the apocalypse

Can you provide a link for this claim? I am finding hits on the internet stating that you have had to read the entire Bible, not just parts.

Still waiting. Me thinks you have been pulling this one out your ass to prove an unproven point.

[Chizzang]

Can you provide a link for this claim? I am finding hits on the internet stating that you have had to read the entire Bible, not just parts.

Still waiting. Me thinks you have been pulling this one out your ass to prove an unproven point.

It's actually higher than 90% I'm being nice by rounding down to 90 - and why don't you log into those sites below and do what you ask Atheists to do and "Prove it's NOT true"

https://www.sri.cornell.edu/sri/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.pewforum.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: the largest biblical apologist on this forum does not argue against - the 90% of Christians have NOT read the Bible statistic - If it was such an absurd statistic don't you think he'd comment on that..?



Let me review:
1) It's actually higher than 90%
2) Prove it isn't - show me statistics that prove Christians are actually reading the Bible
3) Nobody who actually studies theology even flinches at this statistic (including Joe)

and:
I'm the biggest supporter of GOD on this forum... (certainly one of them)
But the Average Christian makes me sad
Quite literally they are the equivalent of the Occupy Wall Street crowd (think about that for a second)

[SeattleGriz]

Still waiting. Me thinks you have been pulling this one out your ass to prove an unproven point.

It's actually higher than 90% I'm being nice by rounding down to 90 - and why don't you log into those sites below and do what you ask Atheists to do and "Prove it's NOT true"

https://www.sri.cornell.edu/sri/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.pewforum.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: the largest biblical apologist on this forum does not argue against - the 90% of Christians have NOT read the Bible statistic - If it was such an absurd statistic don't you think he'd comment on that..?



Let me review:
1) It's actually higher than 90%
2) Prove it isn't - show me statistics that prove Christians are actually reading the Bible
3) Nobody who actually studies theology even flinches at this statistic (including Joe)

and:
I'm the biggest supporter of GOD on this forum... (certainly one of them)
But the Average Christian makes me sad
Quite literally they are the equivalent of the Occupy Wall Street crowd (think about that for a second)

All that blather when asked for a simple clarification and yet you still couldn't answer the question.

Your stat is loaded. You keep referring to the 90% as those who don't bother to open the bible at all, when in reality, it is based on those that have not read the ENTIRE bible.

If I remember correctly, you stated you only read books of the bible in Theology 101, so therefore, you also are guilty of not reading the bible.

See how easy that is?

I will say that Christians need to step up their game in frequently reading the bible, for in 1 Corinthians 3:2 Paul basically tells Christians he needed to dumb down the Word for them to understand, but yet they kept being thick. Many a Christian is guilty of this.

But to masquerade your stat as an indictment on all Christians is just plain dishonesty.

Lastly, thanks for the Pew link. It was great crushing their Religion quiz with a perfect score. Chalk that up to circa 1988 bible study!

[houndawg]

It's actually higher than 90% I'm being nice by rounding down to 90 - and why don't you log into those sites below and do what you ask Atheists to do and "Prove it's NOT true"

https://www.sri.cornell.edu/sri/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.pewforum.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: the largest biblical apologist on this forum does not argue against - the 90% of Christians have NOT read the Bible statistic - If it was such an absurd statistic don't you think he'd comment on that..?



Let me review:
1) It's actually higher than 90%
2) Prove it isn't - show me statistics that prove Christians are actually reading the Bible
3) Nobody who actually studies theology even flinches at this statistic (including Joe)

and:
I'm the biggest supporter of GOD on this forum... (certainly one of them)
But the Average Christian makes me sad
Quite literally they are the equivalent of the Occupy Wall Street crowd (think about that for a second)

All that blather when asked for a simple clarification and yet you still couldn't answer the question.

Your stat is loaded. You keep referring to the 90% as those who don't bother to open the bible at all, when in reality, it is based on those that have not read the ENTIRE bible.

If I remember correctly, you stated you only read books of the bible in Theology 101, so therefore, you also are guilty of not reading the bible.

See how easy that is?

I will say that Christians need to step up their game in frequently reading the bible, for in 1 Corinthians 3:2 Paul basically tells Christians he needed to dumb down the Word for them to understand, but yet they kept being thick. Many a Christian is guilty of this.

But to masquerade your stat as an indictment on all Christians is just plain dishonesty.

Lastly, thanks for the Pew link. It was great crushing their Religion quiz with a perfect score. Chalk that up to circa 1988 bible study!

Maybe they weren't thick, maybe they just couldn't make head nor tail out of that preposterous nonsense.

[Chizzang]

It's actually higher than 90% I'm being nice by rounding down to 90 - and why don't you log into those sites below and do what you ask Atheists to do and "Prove it's NOT true"

https://www.sri.cornell.edu/sri/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.pewforum.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: the largest biblical apologist on this forum does not argue against - the 90% of Christians have NOT read the Bible statistic - If it was such an absurd statistic don't you think he'd comment on that..?



Let me review:
1) It's actually higher than 90%
2) Prove it isn't - show me statistics that prove Christians are actually reading the Bible
3) Nobody who actually studies theology even flinches at this statistic (including Joe)

and:
I'm the biggest supporter of GOD on this forum... (certainly one of them)
But the Average Christian makes me sad
Quite literally they are the equivalent of the Occupy Wall Street crowd (think about that for a second)

All that blather when asked for a simple clarification and yet you still couldn't answer the question.

Your stat is loaded. You keep referring to the 90% as those who don't bother to open the bible at all, when in reality, it is based on those that have not read the ENTIRE bible.

If I remember correctly, you stated you only read books of the bible in Theology 101, so therefore, you also are guilty of not reading the bible.

See how easy that is?

I will say that Christians need to step up their game in frequently reading the bible, for in 1 Corinthians 3:2 Paul basically tells Christians he needed to dumb down the Word for them to understand, but yet they kept being thick. Many a Christian is guilty of this.

But to masquerade your stat as an indictment on all Christians is just plain dishonesty.

Lastly, thanks for the Pew link. It was great crushing their Religion quiz with a perfect score. Chalk that up to circa 1988 bible study!

Dude seriously...
You're the one buying into Adam and Eve and Heaven and Hell and Santa Clause up in the clouds, not me

Good luck with all that - and the occupy Jesus crowd - and the coming apocalypse... (it's in the book)

[SeattleGriz]

All that blather when asked for a simple clarification and yet you still couldn't answer the question.

Your stat is loaded. You keep referring to the 90% as those who don't bother to open the bible at all, when in reality, it is based on those that have not read the ENTIRE bible.

If I remember correctly, you stated you only read books of the bible in Theology 101, so therefore, you also are guilty of not reading the bible.

See how easy that is?

I will say that Christians need to step up their game in frequently reading the bible, for in 1 Corinthians 3:2 Paul basically tells Christians he needed to dumb down the Word for them to understand, but yet they kept being thick. Many a Christian is guilty of this.

But to masquerade your stat as an indictment on all Christians is just plain dishonesty.

Lastly, thanks for the Pew link. It was great crushing their Religion quiz with a perfect score. Chalk that up to circa 1988 bible study!

Dude seriously...
You're the one buying into Adam and Eve and Heaven and Hell and Santa Clause up in the clouds, not me

Good luck with all that - and the occupy Jesus crowd - and the coming apocalypse... (it's in the book)

Still didn't answer the question. What does that say?

[SeattleGriz]

All that blather when asked for a simple clarification and yet you still couldn't answer the question.

Your stat is loaded. You keep referring to the 90% as those who don't bother to open the bible at all, when in reality, it is based on those that have not read the ENTIRE bible.

If I remember correctly, you stated you only read books of the bible in Theology 101, so therefore, you also are guilty of not reading the bible.

See how easy that is?

I will say that Christians need to step up their game in frequently reading the bible, for in 1 Corinthians 3:2 Paul basically tells Christians he needed to dumb down the Word for them to understand, but yet they kept being thick. Many a Christian is guilty of this.

But to masquerade your stat as an indictment on all Christians is just plain dishonesty.

Lastly, thanks for the Pew link. It was great crushing their Religion quiz with a perfect score. Chalk that up to circa 1988 bible study!

Maybe they weren't thick, maybe they just couldn't make head nor tail out of that preposterous nonsense.

Yawn.

[kalm]

Still waiting. Me thinks you have been pulling this one out your ass to prove an unproven point.

It's actually higher than 90% I'm being nice by rounding down to 90 - and why don't you log into those sites below and do what you ask Atheists to do and "Prove it's NOT true"

https://www.sri.cornell.edu/sri/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.pewforum.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Note: the largest biblical apologist on this forum does not argue against - the 90% of Christians have NOT read the Bible statistic - If it was such an absurd statistic don't you think he'd comment on that..?



Let me review:
1) It's actually higher than 90%
2) Prove it isn't - show me statistics that prove Christians are actually reading the Bible
3) Nobody who actually studies theology even flinches at this statistic (including Joe)

and:
I'm the biggest supporter of GOD on this forum... (certainly one of them)
But the Average Christian makes me sad
Quite literally they are the equivalent of the Occupy Wall Street crowd (think about that for a second)

90% of the Occupy crowd hasn't read Moral Sentiments either. That doesn't make the wrong.

At the very least, they're not nearly as violent as the Christians.

[Chizzang]

90% of the Occupy crowd hasn't read Moral Sentiments either. That doesn't make the wrong.

At the very least, they're not nearly as violent as the Christians.

At no point have I argued that Christians or Occupy Wall Street crowd are WRONG
I am simply making clear the FACT that they are poorly informed of their own dire cause

My point can't really even be successfully argued against (frankly) as you see by this thread

[SeattleGriz]

90% of the Occupy crowd hasn't read Moral Sentiments either. That doesn't make the wrong.

At the very least, they're not nearly as violent as the Christians.

At no point have I argued that Christians or Occupy Wall Street crowd are WRONG
I am simply making clear the FACT that they are poorly informed of their own dire cause

My point can't really even be successfully argued against (frankly) as you see by this thread

Answer the question. Have you read the ENTIRE bible?

[kalm]

90% of the Occupy crowd hasn't read Moral Sentiments either. That doesn't make the wrong.

At the very least, they're not nearly as violent as the Christians.

At no point have I argued that Christians or Occupy Wall Street crowd are WRONG
I am simply making clear the FACT that they are poorly informed of their own dire cause

My point can't really even be successfully argued against (frankly) as you see by this thread

Oh, I thought you'd argued that Christians were wrong about Jesus.

My bad.

[SeattleGriz]

At no point have I argued that Christians or Occupy Wall Street crowd are WRONG
I am simply making clear the FACT that they are poorly informed of their own dire cause

My point can't really even be successfully argued against (frankly) as you see by this thread

Answer the question. Have you read the ENTIRE bible?

By virtue of his inability to answer a simple question posed to him on at least three separate occasions, we can now say Cleets has not read the bible.

Therefore, his criticism of Christians is solely based on internet bullshit. The equivalent of evilbible.com

[CID1990]

Ive read the entire thing

I was looking for God

but I didnt even find god

[SeattleGriz]

Ive read the entire thing

I was looking for God

but I didnt even find god

Impressive, although I have to say I did.

Your input has always been fair.

[CID1990]

Ive read the entire thing

I was looking for God

but I didnt even find god

Impressive, although I have to say I did.

Your input has always been fair.

when i was younger i was jealous of people who had Christian faith- i saw it as a gift

now that Im older Im ok with it - and I still reserve room for "god" - whatever that might be

[SeattleGriz]

Impressive, although I have to say I did.

Your input has always been fair.

when i was younger i was jealous of people who had Christian faith- i saw it as a gift

now that Im older Im ok with it - and I still reserve room for "god" - whatever that might be

Why do you think I start so many Intelligent Design threads? While it may not be right, I am looking for discussion.

[houndawg]

At no point have I argued that Christians or Occupy Wall Street crowd are WRONG
I am simply making clear the FACT that they are poorly informed of their own dire cause

My point can't really even be successfully argued against (frankly) as you see by this thread

Answer the question. Have you read the ENTIRE bible?

You read Hebrew and ancient Greek? Which scribes version do you like best?

[SeattleGriz]

Answer the question. Have you read the ENTIRE bible?

You read Hebrew and ancient Greek? Which scribes version do you like best?

Nice try, but that question is not a qualifier in what Cleets has been trumpeting around.

Have you read the entire bible? If not you are amongst the 90% (rounding down), who are considered Christian detritus, and have absolutely no value in this discussion.

No stories of grandma reading, then setting fire and donating.

[Chizzang]

Answer the question. Have you read the ENTIRE bible?

By virtue of his inability to answer a simple question posed to him on at least three separate occasions, we can now say Cleets has not read the bible.

Therefore, his criticism of Christians is solely based on internet bullshit. The equivalent of evilbible.com

Dude...
You're drunk on here 1/2 the time and forget everything
Yes I've read the entire Bible (Both old and new testaments) as I have mentioned several times
Remember when I said I took Theology Classes in college - One whole quarter is on just THE BIBLE

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Seattledbfuck

[houndawg]

You read Hebrew and ancient Greek? Which scribes version do you like best?

Nice try, but that question is not a qualifier in what Cleets has been trumpeting around.

Have you read the entire bible? If not you are amongst the 90% (rounding down), who are considered Christian detritus, and have absolutely no value in this discussion.

No stories of grandma reading, then setting fire and donating.

Which "entire Bible" are you speaking of?

[Chizzang]

Seattledbfuck

I've told him - I don't know 3 times already maybe more - and he keeps asking the same question
The guy needs to back off the vodka

[SeattleGriz]

By virtue of his inability to answer a simple question posed to him on at least three separate occasions, we can now say Cleets has not read the bible.

Therefore, his criticism of Christians is solely based on internet bullshit. The equivalent of evilbible.com

Dude...
You're drunk on here 1/2 the time and forget everything
Yes I've read the entire Bible (Both old and new testaments) as I have mentioned several times
Remember when I said I took Theology Classes in college - One whole quarter is on just THE BIBLE

If you really did tell me three times, then yes, that is on me. And for your information, I am on here drunk only 40% of the time, not 50.

I have to have some sort of coping mechanism to keep beating the same dead horse over and over!