For JSO...How it all Works

[CAA Flagship]

Election Season

[bandl]

Starbucks Prices
Food Size Price
Freshly Brewed Coffee Tall $1.85
Freshly Brewed Coffee Grande $2.10
Freshly Brewed Coffee Venti $2.45

Not sure what it costs to add in some extra gay/foofoo shit.

$2.45 + 8.25% tax ($.20) equals $2.65

Only peons pay tax

I can't drink a venti coffee. My vagina gets hot REAL quick

[93henfan]

Trump wears his dishonesty like a pride banner
Clinton furiously tries to sweep hers under the rug

And $3.00 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks - Pick your poison

Time out.

I need a ruling on the cost of coffee at Starbucks.

In DC:

Tall Pike - $2.15+tax

I usually get two more refills, which are free. They ring up as 50 cents but don't deduct from my account.

So, I pay about 75 cents per cup.

[Chizzang]

What's the cost after you add in the "smug prick" fees?

That's just another name for the Douche Tax. You know like the Estate Tax/Death Tax...

You're all a bunch of assholes...

[Ibanez]

That's just another name for the Douche Tax. You know like the Estate Tax/Death Tax...

You're all a bunch of assholes...

[CAA Flagship]

That's just another name for the Douche Tax. You know like the Estate Tax/Death Tax...

You're all a bunch of assholes...

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... k#p1067541

[JohnStOnge]

Back to the subject matter. When I Google "corrupt," here is the definition that pops up at the top:

having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.

How could anybody's behavior possibly fit that definition more than Donald Trump's? Example: The Trump University fraud. He charges people $10,000 to $35,000 apiece for totally useless courses. Of no value at all in terms of credentialing. Oh by the way he broke the laws of a number of States when he called it "Trump University" when it was not a university. And he made a commercial in which he say she hand picked the instructors when that was a complete lie.

Here are some quotes on the Trump University saga from http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/1 ... dia-frenzy:

6. Trump University was another massive con job. To start, Trump broke the laws of several states that only allowed an authorized institution to be called a university. Then Trump lied when he said he would personally pick the faculty, but when deposed under oath after being sued, admitted he had no idea who the faculty were. Johnston wrote, “His ‘faculty’ stood over students helping them take on all the credit card debt banks would give them to pay tuition and other fees to Trump U., leaving them with no capacity to invest in real estate.”

7. Paying off prosecutors via political donations to avoid charges. When former Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott investigated Trump University, he found its teaching “worthless” and encouraging “illegal” actions, Johnston wrote. “The Texas attorney general’s lawyers concluded that if sued by the state, Trump would have no legal defenses to civil fraud charges.” Abbott did not sue, but later got a $35,000 campaign contribution from Trump. Much the same storyline unfolded in Florida, where Attorney General Pam Bondi declined to take action after receiving many complaints and Trump’s foundation illegally donated $25,000 to her re-election campaign. Tax-exempt charities aren’t allowed to contribute to political campaigns.

That's just one thing. There's LOTS of other stuff. He is, as Marco Rubio said, a total con man. It's how he operates. Constantly been dishonest in order to enrich himself. It is RIDICULOUS to call Hillary Clinton the most corrupt person to ever run for President when Donald Trump is in the race.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

You are voting for a felon JSO

[CID1990]

Back to the subject matter. When I Google "corrupt," here is the definition that pops up at the top:

having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.

How could anybody's behavior possibly fit that definition more than Donald Trump's? Example: The Trump University fraud. He charges people $10,000 to $35,000 apiece for totally useless courses. Of no value at all in terms of credentialing. Oh by the way he broke the laws of a number of States when he called it "Trump University" when it was not a university. And he made a commercial in which he say she hand picked the instructors when that was a complete lie.

Here are some quotes on the Trump University saga from http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/1 ... dia-frenzy:

6. Trump University was another massive con job. To start, Trump broke the laws of several states that only allowed an authorized institution to be called a university. Then Trump lied when he said he would personally pick the faculty, but when deposed under oath after being sued, admitted he had no idea who the faculty were. Johnston wrote, “His ‘faculty’ stood over students helping them take on all the credit card debt banks would give them to pay tuition and other fees to Trump U., leaving them with no capacity to invest in real estate.”

7. Paying off prosecutors via political donations to avoid charges. When former Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott investigated Trump University, he found its teaching “worthless” and encouraging “illegal” actions, Johnston wrote. “The Texas attorney general’s lawyers concluded that if sued by the state, Trump would have no legal defenses to civil fraud charges.” Abbott did not sue, but later got a $35,000 campaign contribution from Trump. Much the same storyline unfolded in Florida, where Attorney General Pam Bondi declined to take action after receiving many complaints and Trump’s foundation illegally donated $25,000 to her re-election campaign. Tax-exempt charities aren’t allowed to contribute to political campaigns.

That's just one thing. There's LOTS of other stuff. He is, as Marco Rubio said, a total con man. It's how he operates. Constantly been dishonest in order to enrich himself. It is RIDICULOUS to call Hillary Clinton the most corrupt person to ever run for President when Donald Trump is in the race.

Incorrect. Hillary has used public office to enrich herself.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[JohnStOnge]

Back to the subject matter. When I Google "corrupt," here is the definition that pops up at the top:



How could anybody's behavior possibly fit that definition more than Donald Trump's? Example: The Trump University fraud. He charges people $10,000 to $35,000 apiece for totally useless courses. Of no value at all in terms of credentialing. Oh by the way he broke the laws of a number of States when he called it "Trump University" when it was not a university. And he made a commercial in which he say she hand picked the instructors when that was a complete lie.

Here are some quotes on the Trump University saga from http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/1 ... dia-frenzy:



That's just one thing. There's LOTS of other stuff. He is, as Marco Rubio said, a total con man. It's how he operates. Constantly been dishonest in order to enrich himself. It is RIDICULOUS to call Hillary Clinton the most corrupt person to ever run for President when Donald Trump is in the race.

Incorrect. Hillary has used public office to enrich herself.

As I wrote earlier, meeting the definition of "corrupt" does not require holding public office or having the corruption involve government. Trump can not have used public office to enrich himself because he's never held public office. But he's been extremely corrupt throughout his life. You would have to be either extremely ignorant and/or not paying attention to all the well known information on his background or in denial not to expect him to use public office to enrich himself if he achieves public office because he's used every other scenario he's been in to enrich himself through dishonest and unethical tactics throughout his adult life.

Again, I'm not arguing that Hillary hasn't been corrupt. What I'm saying is that it's ridiculous to think that Trump is superior in terms of ethics or corruption issues. As I said, if you're going to try to make a decision based on ethics and corruption it is at best a wash. I personally think Trump is even more corrput than Clinton is but even if you don't agree with that you SHOULD admit that he's at least AS corrupt. There's no "corruption related" basis for favoring him.

[kalm]

Incorrect. Hillary has used public office to enrich herself.

As I wrote earlier, meeting the definition of "corrupt" does not require holding public office or having the corruption involve government. Trump can not have used public office to enrich himself because he's never held public office. But he's been extremely corrupt throughout his life. You would have to be either extremely ignorant and/or not paying attention to all the well known information on his background or in denial not to expect him to use public office to enrich himself if he achieves public office because he's used every other scenario he's been in to enrich himself through dishonest and unethical tactics throughout his adult life.

Again, I'm not arguing that Hillary hasn't been corrupt. What I'm saying is that it's ridiculous to think that Trump is superior in terms of ethics or corruption issues. As I said, if you're going to try to make a decision based on ethics and corruption it is at best a wash. I personally think Trump is even more corrput than Clinton is but even if you don't agree with that you SHOULD admit that he's at least AS corrupt. There's no "corruption related" basis for favoring him.

Can a businessman be corrupt or is he simply using the system and public officials to gain an advantage?

cor·rup·tion
kəˈrəpSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Dont argue with people that support and vote for felons, its a waste of time.

[Ibanez]

Incorrect. Hillary has used public office to enrich herself.

As I wrote earlier, meeting the definition of "corrupt" does not require holding public office or having the corruption involve government. Trump can not have used public office to enrich himself because he's never held public office. But he's been extremely corrupt throughout his life. You would have to be either extremely ignorant and/or not paying attention to all the well known information on his background or in denial not to expect him to use public office to enrich himself if he achieves public office because he's used every other scenario he's been in to enrich himself through dishonest and unethical tactics throughout his adult life.

Again, I'm not arguing that Hillary hasn't been corrupt. What I'm saying is that it's ridiculous to think that Trump is superior in terms of ethics or corruption issues. As I said, if you're going to try to make a decision based on ethics and corruption it is at best a wash. I personally think Trump is even more corrput than Clinton is but even if you don't agree with that you SHOULD admit that he's at least AS corrupt. There's no "corruption related" basis for favoring him.

So public officials can't be corrupt??

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

JSO supports corruption and felons. Its what he does and its probably because of his really high IQ

[Ibanez]

JSO supports corruption and felons. Its what he does and its probably because of his really high IQ

You're probably right about that.

[JohnStOnge]

Yes a politician can be corrupt and yes a businessman can be corrupt. If someone is a politician and the take a bribe to do something and he/she does it that's corrupt. If someone is a businessman and they scam people that is corrupt. Also if they are the ones bribing the politician that is corrupt.

Some of you guys are clearly in denial about Trump. I don't know why you insist on doing it. But you're doing it.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

You vote for and support felons therefore your opinion is rendered null and void

[Baldy]

Yes a politician can be corrupt and yes a businessman can be corrupt. If someone is a politician and the take a bribe to do something and he/she does it that's corrupt. If someone is a businessman and they scam people that is corrupt. Also if they are the ones bribing the politician that is corrupt.

Some of you guys are clearly in denial about Trump. I don't know why you insist on doing it. But you're doing it.

Says the high functioning retard voting for The Hildabeast.

Trump is one of the worst candidates to ever run for president. I don't think anyone on this forum thinks otherwise, but the crux of the matter is and what you can't seem to get through your pointy little head is that Broom Hilda is by far the absolute worst most vile most corrupt candidate to EVER seek public office, and it's not even close. Why you can't see that is just baffling to normal people.

[Ivytalk]

Yes a politician can be corrupt and yes a businessman can be corrupt. If someone is a politician and the take a bribe to do something and he/she does it that's corrupt. If someone is a businessman and they scam people that is corrupt. Also if they are the ones bribing the politician that is corrupt.

Some of you guys are clearly in denial about Trump. I don't know why you insist on doing it. But you're doing it.

Says the high functioning retard voting for The Hildabeast.

Trump is one of the worst candidates to ever run for president. I don't think anyone on this forum thinks otherwise, but the crux of the matter is and what you can't seem to get through your pointy little head is that Broom Hilda is by far the absolute worst most vile most corrupt candidate to EVER seek public office, and it's not even close. Why you can't see that is just baffling to normal people.

JSO trigger alert!

[JohnStOnge]

Broom Hilda is by far the absolute worst most vile most corrupt candidate to EVER seek public office, and it's not even close.:

That statement once again validates my assessment that many Trump people are in denial. Again: It's an absurd statement with Trump in the race.

[JohnStOnge]

cor·rup·tion
kəˈrəpSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.

I am going with the adjective "corrupt:"

cor·rupt
kəˈrəpt/Submit
adjective
1.
having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain.

Trump's behavior clearly fits that and it's fit that, as far as I can tell, for his entire life. Like you guys worry about Hillary getting paid $250,000 each for speeches to Wall Street firms. At least that didn't hurt the Wall Street firms. I'm sure they expected to get something out of that at some point. But I haven't heard any evidence that it hurt anybody.

Trump University was a scam that preyed on people in a way that hurt them. People who really couldn't afford it were being scammed out of money at the rate of $10,000 to $35,000 per course. They were being lied to. It was as bad as the people who call old ladies on the phone and scam them out of their life savings. The guy is an absolute creep and he always has been.

And that's just one of his scams. He's got a "solid" record of making agreements with people then finding ways to wriggle out of paying them what he promised to pay as well. He's got that shell charity that he's used to pay things charities aren't supposed to pay and basically represent him using charity money for his own expenses. See the article at https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html:

How Donald Trump retooled his charity to spend other people’s money

Note that the Clinton Foundation, regardless of whether you think it was used to facilitate so shadowy activity, is a highly rated charity that only spends about 12% of donations on overhead. Not the Republicans haven't tried to out and out lie about that. See http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ndation-c/.

BTW the organization referenced in that Politifact summary, The American Institute of Philanthropy , gives the Clinton Foundation an "A" rating. It doesn't even appear to recognize the The Donald J. Trump Foundation as a charity. I tried searching its database. I tried the official name "Donald J. Trump Foundation." Got "There are no charities in this search." Tried "Trump Foundation." Got the same thing. All you have to do is type "Clinton" and "Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation" comes up.

Oh but I'm sure that the American Institute of Philanthropy is part of the "dishonest media" conspiracy to rig the election. And I'm sure a lot of you people would believe that if Donald Trump said it regardless of the fact that the record shows him lying repeatedly. He could tell you people you've got a third eye in the middle of your forehead and you'd believe him even though you're looking in the mirror and it's clearly not there.

I guess I could go with thinking it's a wash in the "corrupt" area. I don't think so but I guess I could see thinking that because it's somewhat subjective. But to call HIllary the most corrupt Presidential candidate ever when you've got this absolute atrocity of a con man who's stepped on people and cheated and/or scammed countless people who NEEDED their money out of it is just ridiculous.

[kalm]

Yes a politician can be corrupt and yes a businessman can be corrupt. If someone is a politician and the take a bribe to do something and he/she does it that's corrupt. If someone is a businessman and they scam people that is corrupt. Also if they are the ones bribing the politician that is corrupt.

Some of you guys are clearly in denial about Trump. I don't know why you insist on doing it. But you're doing it.

One person's scam artist is another person's shrewd businessman and that is way different than a corrupt politician.

This is really rich coming from a guy who believes it's ok for a business owner to discriminate based on race and sexual orientation and a dog owner to perform necrophilia on puppies on account of...liberty!

But buyer beware?........................never heard of it.

[CAA Flagship]

Note that the Clinton Foundation, regardless of whether you think it was used to facilitate so shadowy activity, is a highly rated charity that only spends about 12% of donations on overhead. Not the Republicans haven't tried to out and out lie about that. See http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ndation-c/.

BTW the organization referenced in that Politifact summary, The American Institute of Philanthropy , gives the Clinton Foundation an "A" rating. It doesn't even appear to recognize the The Donald J. Trump Foundation as a charity. I tried searching its database. I tried the official name "Donald J. Trump Foundation." Got "There are no charities in this search." Tried "Trump Foundation." Got the same thing. All you have to do is type "Clinton" and "Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation" comes up.

Oh but I'm sure that the American Institute of Philanthropy is part of the "dishonest media" conspiracy to rig the election. And I'm sure a lot of you people would believe that if Donald Trump said it regardless of the fact that the record shows him lying repeatedly. He could tell you people you've got a third eye in the middle of your forehead and you'd believe him even though you're looking in the mirror and it's clearly not there.

I guess I could go with thinking it's a wash in the "corrupt" area. I don't think so but I guess I could see thinking that because it's somewhat subjective. But to call HIllary the most corrupt Presidential candidate ever when you've got this absolute atrocity of a con man who's stepped on people and cheated and/or scammed countless people who NEEDED their money out of it is just ridiculous.

Here you go, John. Pull your head out of the sand just long enough to read this "tip of the iceberg". Happy reading.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-0 ... liance-law

[Ibanez]

Yes a politician can be corrupt and yes a businessman can be corrupt. If someone is a politician and the take a bribe to do something and he/she does it that's corrupt. If someone is a businessman and they scam people that is corrupt. Also if they are the ones bribing the politician that is corrupt.

Some of you guys are clearly in denial about Trump. I don't know why you insist on doing it. But you're doing it.

You voted for a corrupt politician, a liar and a cheat. Yet, you have the balls to lecture others on supporting Trump? Thats ridiculous.

If you had any principles you would voted for either a third party candidate or for nobody.

But you compromised whatever principles you held by voting for one of the most corrupt politicians of the 21st Century (as young as it is.)

[Ibanez]

Broom Hilda is by far the absolute worst most vile most corrupt candidate to EVER seek public office, and it's not even close.:

That statement once again validates my assessment that many Trump people are in denial. Again: It's an absurd statement with Trump in the race.

Did you even read his post???