Kalm's Election Re-Cap

[Pwns]

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

My disappointment? Neither Obama nor Dems touted the great things they did. The administration has been scandal-free (especially when held to the light of something like Reagan's), the economy improved immensely and their are no major world conflagrations in which we are entangled. Why the Dems abandoned Obama and let the Conks link them to any semblance of "malaise" or trouble is nothing more than extreme cowardice. The nation IS much better off than it was 6 hers ago.
They have no sense of party and, instead, after years of heinous, unabashed obstruction, allowed the Conks to lead them around by their noses. Shame. My party is the party of pussies.



Edit: re: dark money, the Dems out raised and outspent the Conks in Minnesota and put their people back in office with the exception of one guy who probably had to go, anyway. None of them abandoned Obama or party principle.

What accomplishments do you want them to tout, Cap'n?

Health care would be a big loser when people are losing their plans and their premiums are going up when Obama said neither would happen.

Talking about ending the Iraq war might not do any good when ISIS is running rampant and when we've been meddling in Syria and Libya.

You can also cite BLS numbers all you want but if people see around them that things aren't getting any better in their communities it won't do any good.

There's a good reason why a lot of donks in the crucial senate races wanted to keep the campaign from being about Obama.

[travelinman67]

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

My disappointment? Neither Obama nor Dems touted the great things they did. The administration has been scandal-free (especially when held to the light of something like Reagan's), the economy improved immensely and their are no major world conflagrations in which we are entangled. Why the Dems abandoned Obama and let the Conks link them to any semblance of "malaise" or trouble is nothing more than extreme cowardice. The nation IS much better off than it was 6 hers ago.
They have no sense of party and, instead, after years of heinous, unabashed obstruction, allowed the Conks to lead them around by their noses. Shame. My party is the party of pussies.



Edit: re: dark money, the Dems out raised and outspent the Conks in Minnesota and put their people back in office with the exception of one guy who probably had to go, anyway. None of them abandoned Obama or party principle.

"Yaw-Hooooooooo"

[Cap'n Cat]

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

My disappointment? Neither Obama nor Dems touted the great things they did. The administration has been scandal-free (especially when held to the light of something like Reagan's), the economy improved immensely and their are no major world conflagrations in which we are entangled. Why the Dems abandoned Obama and let the Conks link them to any semblance of "malaise" or trouble is nothing more than extreme cowardice. The nation IS much better off than it was 6 hers ago.
They have no sense of party and, instead, after years of heinous, unabashed obstruction, allowed the Conks to lead them around by their noses. Shame. My party is the party of pussies.



Edit: re: dark money, the Dems out raised and outspent the Conks in Minnesota and put their people back in office with the exception of one guy who probably had to go, anyway. None of them abandoned Obama or party principle.

What accomplishments do you want them to tout, Cap'n?

Health care would be a big loser when people are losing their plans and their premiums are going up when Obama said neither would happen.

Talking about ending the Iraq war might not do any good when ISIS is running rampant and when we've been meddling in Syria and Libya.

You can also cite BLS numbers all you want but if people see around them that things aren't getting any better in their communities it won't do any good.

There's a good reason why a lot of donks in the crucial senate races wanted to keep the campaign from being about Obama.

You're wrong, Tbag. ISIS hasn't even been in the news for two weeks. They've been beat back. And, Syria and Iraq weren't even issues in this turn.
Things aren't getting better in communities because that's what Conks convinced people to think. Dems didn't go on either the offensive or the defensive. Pussies.

But, as we all know, this is cyclical. Watch the Conks shit themselves for two years and the TeaBaggers try to take over and the pendulum will swing another way.

Meanwhile, I'm dumping the Dems and starting the "Anyone But a Conk" Party!

[CAA Flagship]

Like I said, I'm neutral on the min. wage. My point is that an increase was extremely popular in red states, so much so that the republican senatorial candidates in Alaska and Arkansas both came out in favor of it .

Minimum wage is just a feel good issue. In the longterm, any increases in minimum wage are erased by inflationary pressures. There may be some short term impacts, megative and positive, but really, raising the minimum wage does absolutely nothing long term when it comes to improving the standard of living of those for whom raising the minimum wage was intended. More people should be for it because it looks like you're doing something without really having to solve an issue. It's perfect for politics.

Tell that to the fast food industry, or theme park industry, etc. If being done to make people feel good, it is extremely damaging to businesses. Also, it will get companies to think about job cuts. And job cuts will happen. It also provides less of an incentive for workers to better themselves to make better wages.

[kalm]

What accomplishments do you want them to tout, Cap'n?

Health care would be a big loser when people are losing their plans and their premiums are going up when Obama said neither would happen.

Talking about ending the Iraq war might not do any good when ISIS is running rampant and when we've been meddling in Syria and Libya.

You can also cite BLS numbers all you want but if people see around them that things aren't getting any better in their communities it won't do any good.

There's a good reason why a lot of donks in the crucial senate races wanted to keep the campaign from being about Obama.

You're wrong, Tbag. ISIS hasn't even been in the news for two weeks. They've been beat back. And, Syria and Iraq weren't even issues in this turn.
Things aren't getting better in communities because that's what Conks convinced people to think. Dems didn't go on either the offensive or the defensive. Pussies.

But, as we all know, this is cyclical. Watch the Conks shit themselves for two years and the TeaBaggers try to take over and the pendulum will swing another way.

Meanwhile, I'm dumping the Dems and starting the "Anyone But a Conk" Party!

Welcome aboard, Cappy!

[Ibanez]

That's the really crazy part - the economy is doing better - and yet the Dems didn't just lose but got absolutely crushed because R's linked them to Obama (all McConnell ran on was linking Grimes to O - the whole bit about her refusing to say she voted for him, even when she was a delegate for him in '12).

Agreed, except for the fact that the Dems didn't get "crushed". Balance simply shifted, as it has done countless times. Seems like "crushed" because of how our sensationalist media characterizes things these days.

My disappointment? Neither Obama nor Dems touted the great things they did. The administration has been scandal-free (especially when held to the light of something like Reagan's), the economy improved immensely and their are no major world conflagrations in which we are entangled. Why the Dems abandoned Obama and let the Conks link them to any semblance of "malaise" or trouble is nothing more than extreme cowardice. The nation IS much better off than it was 6 hers ago.
They have no sense of party and, instead, after years of heinous, unabashed obstruction, allowed the Conks to lead them around by their noses. Shame. My party is the party of pussies.



Edit: re: dark money, the Dems out raised and outspent the Conks in Minnesota and put their people back in office with the exception of one guy who probably had to go, anyway. None of them abandoned Obama or party principle.

Are we looking at the same administration? You honestly, can't believe what you wrote.

[kalm]

Minimum wage is just a feel good issue. In the longterm, any increases in minimum wage are erased by inflationary pressures. There may be some short term impacts, megative and positive, but really, raising the minimum wage does absolutely nothing long term when it comes to improving the standard of living of those for whom raising the minimum wage was intended. More people should be for it because it looks like you're doing something without really having to solve an issue. It's perfect for politics.

Tell that to the fast food industry, or theme park industry, etc. If being done to make people feel good, it is extremely damaging to businesses. Also, it will get companies to think about job cuts. And job cuts will happen. It also provides less of an incentive for workers to better themselves to make better wages.

Except there's no correlation between employment rates and minimum wage increases.

But since we're on the topic of jobs and wages, I think job security, financial security, and increasing wages are the thorns in Obama's side.

[travelinman67]

What accomplishments do you want them to tout, Cap'n?

Health care would be a big loser when people are losing their plans and their premiums are going up when Obama said neither would happen.

Talking about ending the Iraq war might not do any good when ISIS is running rampant and when we've been meddling in Syria and Libya.

You can also cite BLS numbers all you want but if people see around them that things aren't getting any better in their communities it won't do any good.

There's a good reason why a lot of donks in the crucial senate races wanted to keep the campaign from being about Obama.

You're wrong, Tbag. ISIS hasn't even been in the news for two weeks. They've been beat back. And, Syria and Iraq weren't even issues in this turn.
Things aren't getting better in communities because that's what Conks convinced people to think. Dems didn't go on either the offensive or the defensive. Pussies.

But, as we all know, this is cyclical. Watch the Conks shit themselves for two years and the TeaBaggers try to take over and the pendulum will swing another way.

Meanwhile, I'm dumping the Dems and starting the "Anyone But a Conk" Party!

You were responding to Pwns, but that's ok, I'll answer.

The post election analysis disproves EVERYTHING you've asserted.

In fact, you are 180° off.

The nation was responding to six years of liberal extremism by the least liked President in a century.

I don't agree with McConnell's initial mission to make Obama a one term President, but in the same breath, Obama adopted a no-compromise, my way or the highway, policy which ALWAYS leads to failure.

One again, voters were responding to extremism, dishonesty, and lawlessness.

[Ibanez]

You're wrong, Tbag. ISIS hasn't even been in the news for two weeks. They've been beat back. And, Syria and Iraq weren't even issues in this turn.
Things aren't getting better in communities because that's what Conks convinced people to think. Dems didn't go on either the offensive or the defensive. Pussies.

But, as we all know, this is cyclical. Watch the Conks shit themselves for two years and the TeaBaggers try to take over and the pendulum will swing another way.

Meanwhile, I'm dumping the Dems and starting the "Anyone But a Conk" Party!

You were responding to Pwns, but that's ok, I'll answer.

The post election analysis disproves EVERYTHING you've asserted.

In fact, you are 180° off.

The nation was responding to six years of liberal extremism by the least liked President in a century.

I don't agree with McConnell's initial mission to make Obama a one term President, but in the same breath, Obama adopted a no-compromise, my way or the highway, policy which ALWAYS leads to failure.

One again, voters were responding to extremism, dishonesty, and lawlessness.

Least Liked? He and Dubya are probably tied for that spot.

[kalm]

You're wrong, Tbag. ISIS hasn't even been in the news for two weeks. They've been beat back. And, Syria and Iraq weren't even issues in this turn.
Things aren't getting better in communities because that's what Conks convinced people to think. Dems didn't go on either the offensive or the defensive. Pussies.

But, as we all know, this is cyclical. Watch the Conks shit themselves for two years and the TeaBaggers try to take over and the pendulum will swing another way.

Meanwhile, I'm dumping the Dems and starting the "Anyone But a Conk" Party!

You were responding to Pwns, but that's ok, I'll answer.

The post election analysis disproves EVERYTHING you've asserted.

In fact, you are 180° off.

The nation was responding to six years of liberal extremism by the least liked President in a century.

I don't agree with McConnell's initial mission to make Obama a one term President, but in the same breath, Obama adopted a no-compromise, my way or the highway, policy which ALWAYS leads to failure.

One again, voters were responding to extremism, dishonesty, and lawlessness.

Liberal extremism?

[Bronco]

Cappy,
Twice now ate national elections you have posted that that's it for conservatives...they will never win another election

What is wrong with my old State of Minnesota?
Re-elect Franken and Ellison is popular
No wonder people and business are leaving

[Baldy]

What accomplishments do you want them to tout, Cap'n?

Health care would be a big loser when people are losing their plans and their premiums are going up when Obama said neither would happen.

Talking about ending the Iraq war might not do any good when ISIS is running rampant and when we've been meddling in Syria and Libya.

You can also cite BLS numbers all you want but if people see around them that things aren't getting any better in their communities it won't do any good.

There's a good reason why a lot of donks in the crucial senate races wanted to keep the campaign from being about Obama.

You're wrong, Tbag. ISIS hasn't even been in the news for two weeks. They've been beat back. And, Syria and Iraq weren't even issues in this turn.
Things aren't getting better in communities because that's what Conks convinced people to think. Dems didn't go on either the offensive or the defensive. Pussies.

But, as we all know, this is cyclical. Watch the Conks shit themselves for two years and the TeaBaggers try to take over and the pendulum will swing another way.

Meanwhile, I'm dumping the Dems and starting the "Anyone But a Conk" Party!

1. ISIS has been in the news. They have captured gas and oil fields in Syria and Iraq in the past two weeks. You haven't see as much coverage because the election has been the top story lately.

2. How in the hell can the Conks brainwash anyone about anything? Through the NBC, CBS, or ABC nightly news? CNN? MSNBC? NY Times, USA Today?, Washington Post, The Daily Show?, Colbert? MTV? The Kardashians? HBO?
What is this magic Conk tractor beam that can get through the 95% left bent that is powerful enough to brainwash so many?

[kalm]

You're wrong, Tbag. ISIS hasn't even been in the news for two weeks. They've been beat back. And, Syria and Iraq weren't even issues in this turn.
Things aren't getting better in communities because that's what Conks convinced people to think. Dems didn't go on either the offensive or the defensive. Pussies.

But, as we all know, this is cyclical. Watch the Conks shit themselves for two years and the TeaBaggers try to take over and the pendulum will swing another way.

Meanwhile, I'm dumping the Dems and starting the "Anyone But a Conk" Party!

1. ISIS has been in the news. They have captured gas and oil fields in Syria and Iraq in the past two weeks. You haven't see as much coverage because the election has been the top story lately.

2. How in the hell can the Conks brainwash anyone about anything? Through the NBC, CBS, or ABC nightly news? CNN? MSNBC? NY Times, USA Today?, Washington Post, The Daily Show?, Colbert? MTV? The Kardashians? HBO?
What is this magic Conk tractor beam that can get through the 95% left bent that is powerful enough to brainwash so many?

37% of this election's voters were over 60. They read the WSJ and watch Fox News in between re-runs of Hee-Haw and Lawrence Welk.

They are legion.

[GannonFan]

You were responding to Pwns, but that's ok, I'll answer.

The post election analysis disproves EVERYTHING you've asserted.

In fact, you are 180° off.

The nation was responding to six years of liberal extremism by the least liked President in a century.

I don't agree with McConnell's initial mission to make Obama a one term President, but in the same breath, Obama adopted a no-compromise, my way or the highway, policy which ALWAYS leads to failure.

One again, voters were responding to extremism, dishonesty, and lawlessness.

Frankly, I still think Obama has been hoodwinked and politically dominated by the Dems in Congress, and it started in Year 1 when the Super Majority existed and Pelosi and Reid basically called the shots. Even when they lose the House two years later, though, Reid stayed in power in the Senate and the legislative agenda, for what it was, was almost entirely directed by Reid. Normally the President is the leader of his party and he ends up being the most powerful legislative force in the government by introducing bills that cater to his agenda, but that didn't happen. Very few if anything in Congress seemed to originate from the White House as everything seemed to be coming from Capitol Hill and from Reid. I think that will go down as the biggest failure for Obama's Presidency - he could talk a good game, but when it came to initiating change in government, he let others (or was forced to let others) who didn't share his zeal take the lead. I don't think he was prepared to deal with pretty strong personalities in his own party, hence his detachment from and inability to make any noise on the Hill.

[travelinman67]

1. ISIS has been in the news. They have captured gas and oil fields in Syria and Iraq in the past two weeks. You haven't see as much coverage because the election has been the top story lately.

2. How in the hell can the Conks brainwash anyone about anything? Through the NBC, CBS, or ABC nightly news? CNN? MSNBC? NY Times, USA Today?, Washington Post, The Daily Show?, Colbert? MTV? The Kardashians? HBO?
What is this magic Conk tractor beam that can get through the 95% left bent that is powerful enough to brainwash so many?

37% of this election's voters were over 60. They read the WSJ and watch Fox News in between re-runs of Hee-Haw and Lawrence Welk.

They are legion.

Source?

[travelinman67]

You were responding to Pwns, but that's ok, I'll answer.

The post election analysis disproves EVERYTHING you've asserted.

In fact, you are 180° off.

The nation was responding to six years of liberal extremism by the least liked President in a century.

I don't agree with McConnell's initial mission to make Obama a one term President, but in the same breath, Obama adopted a no-compromise, my way or the highway, policy which ALWAYS leads to failure.

One again, voters were responding to extremism, dishonesty, and lawlessness.

Least Liked? He and Dubya are probably tied for that spot.

Not true. We went over this a few months back.

[Ibanez]

Least Liked? He and Dubya are probably tied for that spot.

Not true. We went over this a few months back.

Citing an article from the Onion saying Bush was loved is not reliable.

[Grizalltheway]

Not true. We went over this a few months back.

Citing an article from the Onion saying Bush was loved is not reliable.

The Onion?? I must have missed that.

[kalm]

37% of this election's voters were over 60. They read the WSJ and watch Fox News in between re-runs of Hee-Haw and Lawrence Welk.

They are legion.

Source?

Oops, it's even greater...

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -age-gaps/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Ibanez]

Citing an article from the Onion saying Bush was loved is not reliable.

The Onion?? I must have missed that.

I was making a joke, but it's close to the truth.

[tribe_pride]

Source?

Oops, it's even greater...

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -age-gaps/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still don't see it. It has that 22% of the voters were greater than 65 and an additional 43% were 45-64 so 65% were 45 and older but how do you know that more than 13% of the voters were 60-64. Could be true but we don't know either way from this data unless I missed something.

[kalm]

Oops, it's even greater...

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -age-gaps/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still don't see it. It has that 22% of the voters were greater than 65 and an additional 43% were 45-64 so 65% were 45 and older but how do you know that more than 13% of the voters were 60-64. Could be true but we don't know either way from this data unless I missed something.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/electio ... ld-n241216" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[tribe_pride]

Still don't see it. It has that 22% of the voters were greater than 65 and an additional 43% were 45-64 so 65% were 45 and older but how do you know that more than 13% of the voters were 60-64. Could be true but we don't know either way from this data unless I missed something.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/electio ... ld-n241216" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's the right link. So it is at 37%. Not surprising that the older generation will vote more and the younger generation only when they think it matters (President) for the most part.

Interestingly enough, while the presidential election does have some effect, some of the local elections can have more of a day to day impact on people's lives.

[BDKJMU]

5) Red states Alaska, Arkansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska all voted minimum wage increases. I'm neutral on the minimum wage and it affects my business a ton. Just pointing this out that while voting for the center right and further right parties because they have no other choices, Americans continue to be progressive on the issues.

[kalm]

5) Red states Alaska, Arkansas, South Dakota, and Nebraska all voted minimum wage increases. I'm neutral on the minimum wage and it affects my business a ton. Just pointing this out that while voting for the center right and further right parties because they have no other choices, Americans continue to be progressive on the issues.

One of your more clever replies.