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I heard about the video on the radio the other day. I see that Youtube removed it because it purportedly violated its terms of service. I was able to view it in other places.

And all I can say is "You've got to be kidding me." I'm talking about Youtube. With all the stuff they allow they say THAT video violates their terms of service?

Why, because it makes the homosexual look like an unhinged lunatic while making the anti homosexuality protestor look calm and rational?

This thing has gotten completely out of hand. We have something like 97% of the population cowering and jumping through hoops to facilitate 3% of the population with sexual orientation disorder feeling good about themselves and living in denial with respect to the fact that they're sick.

I just wonder if sanity is ever going to be restored.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I heard about the video on the radio the other day. I see that Youtube removed it because it purportedly violated its terms of service. I was able to view it in other places.

And all I can say is "You've got to be kidding me." I'm talking about Youtube. With all the stuff they allow they say THAT video violates their terms of service?

Why, because it makes the homosexual look like an unhinged lunatic while making the anti homosexuality protestor look calm and rational?

This thing has gotten completely out of hand. We have something like 97% of the population cowering and jumping through hoops to facilitate 3% of the population with sexual orientation disorder feeling good about themselves and living in denial with respect to the fact that they're sick.

I just wonder if sanity is ever going to be restored.
Not as long as people like you are around. :thumb:
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Not as long as people like you are around.
Right. You've got people buying the idea that there's nothing "off" about a guy preferring to butt bop another guy over having sex with a woman and you're talking about people like me.

That's a great illustration of how deeply ingrained the problem is.
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JohnStOnge wrote:I heard about the video on the radio the other day. I see that Youtube removed it because it purportedly violated its terms of service. I was able to view it in other places.

And all I can say is "You've got to be kidding me." I'm talking about Youtube. With all the stuff they allow they say THAT video violates their terms of service?

Why, because it makes the homosexual look like an unhinged lunatic while making the anti homosexuality protestor look calm and rational?

This thing has gotten completely out of hand. We have something like 97% of the population cowering and jumping through hoops to facilitate 3% of the population with sexual orientation disorder feeling good about themselves and living in denial with respect to the fact that they're sick.

I just wonder if sanity is ever going to be restored.
John…oh ye of constitutional originalism and the nation's founding…

What percentage of the British Commonwealth did the colonies represent? I don't know if it was as low 3% but it was a small portion none the less. I suppose all that mumbo jumbo about all men being created equal and the pursuit of happiness really only should have applied to conservative christian right wing republican straight white american males in perpetuity?

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JohnStOnge wrote:
Not as long as people like you are around.
Right. You've got people buying the idea that there's nothing "off" about a guy preferring to butt bop another guy over having sex with a woman and you're talking about people like me.

That's a great illustration of how deeply ingrained the problem is.
So we base civil rights on how "off" someone is?

You've just eliminated most fundamentalist christians...
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Not as long as people like you are around.
Right. You've got people buying the idea that there's nothing "off" about a guy preferring to butt bop another guy over having sex with a woman and you're talking about people like me.

That's a great illustration of how deeply ingrained the problem is.
Actually, the definition of insanity is putting this much time and effort into demonizing people for having sexual preferences different than yours, and which have absolutely ZERO impact on your life or well-being. You're a fundamentalist bigot trying to disguise yourself as a scientist. :nod:
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So we base civil rights on how "off" someone is?
I do not believe in the concept of "civil rights" as I understand that concept in the United States. It's basically government telling people they have to be nice to each other.

For example: According to our civil rights concept, a business cannot refuse to hire somebody because the potential employee is Black. That is wrong. A business should be able to hire or not hire anybody they want to hire or not hire for any reason they choose. It should be none of government's business at all.

In the case of homosexuality, people in a community, State or whatever should be able to choose not to recognize homosexual unions as marriage. They should be free not to allow them to live in their rental property if they want. They should be free to opt not to hire them if they want. So on and so forth.

The whole idea that government should be involved in forcing people to associate with other people they don't want to associate with in various situations involving commerce is completely contrary to what this country is supposed to be about.

You mentioned the Constitution. I guarantee you that the people involved with crafting or ratifying ANYTHING in the Constitution did not construe any of it as giving government the authority to enact what we now know as Civil Rights law (as in, for instance, the Federal government can tell private businesses that they can't hire and fire as they wish for whatever reason they wish).
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Actually, the definition of insanity is putting this much time and effort into demonizing people for having sexual preferences different than yours,
It really doesn't take a lot of time and effort. It's just speaking the truth. And it's not even the homosexuals themselves so much. It's the people who are NOT homosexuals who have bought into this crap that are the problem.

Now, at one time I did put a lot of time and effort into the question. I researched the origin and basis for the American Psychiatric Association removing homosexuality from its list of psychiatric disorders. I checked out the bible of the "homosexuality is normal in animals" movement and read it. And so I'm able to say, on an informed basis, that I think it's all a crock.

But most of that effort was during the 1990s. And what's wrong with that? So I made an effort to actually look at the basis for this "homosexuality is normal" crap instead of just lapping it up as it was fed to me. Is there supposed to be something wrong with that? Is it better to just suck the propaganda in and nod your head as most in the culture have been doing over the past 20 or 30 years?
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Klam, Jewhater...

...JSO is correct.

You cannot argue your position to "end bigotry", by being a bigot.

You "win" by setting the example.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
So we base civil rights on how "off" someone is?
I do not believe in the concept of "civil rights" as I understand that concept in the United States. It's basically government telling people they have to be nice to each other.
Of course you don't and no it isn't. :coffee:
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travelinman67 wrote:Klam, Jewhater...

...JSO is correct.

You cannot argue your position to "end bigotry", by being a bigot.

You "win" by setting the example.
1). Yes I can. Quit trying to be the thought police. JSO is entitled to his opinions just like I'm entitled to point out how silly they are. :coffee:

2). I set the example all the time. :coffee: :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:Klam, Jewhater...

...JSO is correct.

You cannot argue your position to "end bigotry", by being a bigot.

You "win" by setting the example.
1). Yes I can. Quit trying to be the thought police.:
I'm your Judge and Jury, Bitch!

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travelinman67 wrote:
kalm wrote:
1). Yes I can. Quit trying to be the thought police.:
I'm your Judge and Jury, Bitch!

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travelinman67 wrote:Klam, Jewhater...

...JSO is correct.

You cannot argue your position to "end bigotry", by being a bigot.

You "win" by setting the example.
You calling me a bigot is pretty rich, considering you also call me a Jew hater because I have different views on Israel than you. :jack:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:Klam, Jewhater...

...JSO is correct.

You cannot argue your position to "end bigotry", by being a bigot.

You "win" by setting the example.
You calling me a bigot is pretty rich, considering you also call me a Jew hater because I have different views on Israel than you. :jack:
You've made your opinions about Jews and the State of Israel abundantly clear.

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Yeah, you've done a great job of telling me what my views on Jews and Israel are. :roll:
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