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This...great god almighty this! He was such a good candidate! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Too bad candidacies don't translate into on the field performance. :ohno: :coffee:
Well, that's obviously the case right now.... :roll:
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Re: The Perfect Republican Candidate...

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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
This...great god almighty this! He was such a good candidate! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Too bad candidacies don't translate into on the field performance. :ohno: :coffee:
Well, that's obviously the case right now.... :roll:
Very true...I can admit that, can you?

Let's hope BHO doesn't do as much long term damage as Reagan did. Are ya with me????? :party:
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote: :roll: :roll:

Can you tell me how many sitting presidents HAVEN'T been reelected in the last 50 years?

Rhetorical question: TWO. No matter the incomptence level, it's VERY difficult to unseat an incumbent...they have ALL the advantages....Bush and Obama are two shining examples of THAT.
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FOUR.

Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Bush. :coffee:

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Kennedy. :rofl:
Johnson wasn't even the Donk candidate....but I'll give you that one.
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kalm wrote:
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Well, that's obviously the case right now.... :roll:
Very true...I can admit that, can you?

Let's hope BHO doesn't do as much long term damage as Reagan did. Are ya with me????? :party:
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Re: The Perfect Republican Candidate...

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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
Very true...I can admit that, can you?

Let's hope BHO doesn't do as much long term damage as Reagan did. Are ya with me????? :party:
:shock: :dunce: :rofl:
I didn't think so...narrow minded conk hack.
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kalm wrote:
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:shock: :dunce: :rofl:
I didn't think so...narrow minded conk hack.
Pot calling the kettle black. :roll: Anyone who thinks Reagan has done more long term damage than what BHO is doing to the country is a narrow minded donk hack..... :nod:
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I didn't think so...narrow minded conk hack.
Pot calling the kettle black. :roll: Anyone who thinks Reagan has done more long term damage than what BHO is doing to the country is a narrow minded donk hack..... :nod:
Anyone who compares a president in office to the affects of a very influential president 30 years down the road is a complete :dunce: :lol:

Reagan was a turd...sorry you're still buying the propaganda. :thumb:
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Does he/she exist? According to David Francis and Eric Pianin of the Fiscal Times, the short list includes Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz & Dr. Ben Carson...but the perfect candidate's name is Rand Carson Rubio, or Chris Ryan Cruz, or Bobby Paul Bush or some other combination of traits and positions:
The conks have really got a problem, their base is composed of racist fringe ideologists who are going to guarantee conk irrelevance for years to come. A good thing for the nation.

You can throw out Rand and Ryan right away, one is a creep and the other a twerp and neither will pull any female vote. Best bet is a Latino because of the number of conservative Latinos but the Republicans racist base won't allow it to happen.

Best chance in the general election would be Christie or Rubio with Niki Haley as VP candidate. Just remember that I tried to help after the bitch slapping coming in '16. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Anyone who compares a president in office to the affects of a very influential president 30 years down the road is a complete :dunce: :lol:
kalm wrote:Let's hope BHO doesn't do as much long term damage as Reagan did. Are ya with me????? :party:
So you're calling yourself a complete :dunce: :rofl:
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Pot calling the kettle black. :roll: Anyone who thinks Reagan has done more long term damage than what BHO is doing to the country is a narrow minded donk hack..... :nod:
Anyone who compares a president in office to the affects of a very influential president 30 years down the road is a complete :dunce: :lol:

Reagan was a turd...sorry you're still buying the propaganda. :thumb:
Yeah boy, someone is still buying the propaganda, alright. :?
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Re: The Perfect Republican Candidate...

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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote: Anyone who compares a president in office to the affects of a very influential president 30 years down the road is a complete :dunce: :lol:
kalm wrote:Let's hope BHO doesn't do as much long term damage as Reagan did. Are ya with me????? :party:
So you're calling yourself a complete :dunce: :rofl:
Wow... :lol: Time to call it quits son. :dunce:
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Policy Platform and Character Sketch of a viable Republican candidate:
• At the very least, the appearance of moderation on a number of social issues, from abortion to same sex marriage. Christie is the most moderate of the bunch, although he does oppose abortion.
• Conservative enough to win the base, but moderate enough to attract swing voters. Ben Carson has ignited the Republican base, but has also appealed to moderate voters through his anecdotes and medical experience.
• A candidate who reached out to all races, not just white voters. Carson, a Detroit native, has the potential to reach undecided African American voters, while Rubio and Bush have deep ties to the Latino community. Also, they both speak Spanish, a skill that Hillary Clinton lacks.
• A candidate that doesn’t race-bait or vilify minorities. Again, Carson, Rubio and Bush have the potential to reach minority voters.
• A candidate that can connect with young people. Rand Paul excited a lot of younger voters with his filibuster against the Obama administration’s drone policy and the nomination of John Brennan as the new CIA director. His speech spawned the term “bro-gressives,” or young progressive men who were attracted to Paul’s anti-drone stance.
• A candidate that is concerned with the well being of the “47 percent” of Americans dissed by Mitt Romney. Christie best embodies the GOP’s populist spirit, connecting with New Jersey voters from both parties. He has also been ready to set aside politics to help citizens.
• A candidate that is charismatic enough to sell Republican ideals to a public that has grown skeptical of the party. Ben Carson’s recent speeches have displayed this dynamism, and Christie has been able to relate to New Jersey voters.
• A candidate with reasonable views, as the public has grown tired of “birther” and “legitimate rape” theories. All of these candidates have avoided this kind of rhetoric, but a moderate female candidate would also help to win back women.
• Someone who can get rid of the “party of the rich” label. Christie appears to be the most capable of connecting with middle and working class voters.
• A policy wonk that can sell the public on Republican ideas. Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the two policy experts in this group, although they lack the salesmanship of someone like Chris Christie.

Unfortunately for the party, none of the Republican candidates fit this bill. But noted pollster John Zogby believes two stand out as having the most potential to compete in 2016.“The two strongest are Marco Rubio and Ben Carson because they offer the GOP the opportunity to stick with core principles while moving the ball on demographics,” Zogby told The Fiscal Times. “Both can be exciting campaigners and one of them is actually very smart. I really can see them exciting voters in Iowa and New Hampshire and there is nothing that hurts them with primary voters in South Carolina.”

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The social issues have KILLED Republicans............they can be the best thing since sliced bread in every fiscal and foreign policy category..........but a majority have spoked loud and clear that:

1. They don't want the government telling people who they should sleep with or discriminating against people because of their sexuality. This plays across all political spectrums as just about everyone knows a family member, friend or associate who is gay.

2. Women don't want to be told what to do with their bodies......period.

3. Hispanics don't want to be treated like sh*t.

It's a conundrum for sure.........but with Baby Boomers dying off and more people jumping off the organized religion ship.........it ain't rocket science, idiots!!! :roll:

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Re: The Perfect Republican Candidate...

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AZGrizFan wrote:
houndawg wrote:
:ohno:


FOUR.

Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Bush. :coffee:

:rofl:
Kennedy. :rofl:
Johnson wasn't even the Donk candidate....but I'll give you that one.
Hey, he was sitting at the time. And he didn't get re-elected.... :mrgreen:
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mrklean wrote:Policy Platform and Character Sketch of a viable Republican candidate:
• At the very least, the appearance of moderation on a number of social issues, from abortion to same sex marriage. Christie is the most moderate of the bunch, although he does oppose abortion.
• Conservative enough to win the base, but moderate enough to attract swing voters. Ben Carson has ignited the Republican base, but has also appealed to moderate voters through his anecdotes and medical experience.
• A candidate who reached out to all races, not just white voters. Carson, a Detroit native, has the potential to reach undecided African American voters, while Rubio and Bush have deep ties to the Latino community. Also, they both speak Spanish, a skill that Hillary Clinton lacks.
• A candidate that doesn’t race-bait or vilify minorities. Again, Carson, Rubio and Bush have the potential to reach minority voters.
• A candidate that can connect with young people. Rand Paul excited a lot of younger voters with his filibuster against the Obama administration’s drone policy and the nomination of John Brennan as the new CIA director. His speech spawned the term “bro-gressives,” or young progressive men who were attracted to Paul’s anti-drone stance.
• A candidate that is concerned with the well being of the “47 percent” of Americans dissed by Mitt Romney. Christie best embodies the GOP’s populist spirit, connecting with New Jersey voters from both parties. He has also been ready to set aside politics to help citizens.
• A candidate that is charismatic enough to sell Republican ideals to a public that has grown skeptical of the party. Ben Carson’s recent speeches have displayed this dynamism, and Christie has been able to relate to New Jersey voters.
• A candidate with reasonable views, as the public has grown tired of “birther” and “legitimate rape” theories. All of these candidates have avoided this kind of rhetoric, but a moderate female candidate would also help to win back women.
• Someone who can get rid of the “party of the rich” label. Christie appears to be the most capable of connecting with middle and working class voters.
• A policy wonk that can sell the public on Republican ideas. Paul Ryan and Bobby Jindal are the two policy experts in this group, although they lack the salesmanship of someone like Chris Christie.

Unfortunately for the party, none of the Republican candidates fit this bill. But noted pollster John Zogby believes two stand out as having the most potential to compete in 2016.“The two strongest are Marco Rubio and Ben Carson because they offer the GOP the opportunity to stick with core principles while moving the ball on demographics,” Zogby told The Fiscal Times. “Both can be exciting campaigners and one of them is actually very smart. I really can see them exciting voters in Iowa and New Hampshire and there is nothing that hurts them with primary voters in South Carolina.”

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If Christie doesn't get the nomination I'm done as a registered Republican.
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houndawg wrote:
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Kennedy. :rofl:
Johnson wasn't even the Donk candidate....but I'll give you that one.

Hey, he was sitting at the time. And he didn't get re-elected.... :mrgreen:
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Reagan (mostly his handlers) created virtually all the problems, foreign and domestic, we find ourselves mired in today. Sanctimonious, self-righteous cocksucker.
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houndawg wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Kennedy. :rofl:
Johnson wasn't even the Donk candidate....but I'll give you that one.
Hey, he was sitting at the time. And he didn't get re-elected.... :mrgreen:
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Cap'n Cat wrote:Reagan (mostly his handlers) created virtually all the problems, foreign and domestic, we find ourselves mired in today. Sanctimonious, self-righteous cocksucker.
Just as people who lionize Reagan pump up his positive contributions too much, so do the people, like Cappy, who despise the guy overly hyperbolize his faults. And you can't get more hyperbolized than this - reall, virtually all of the problems we have are due to him? Come on Cappy, you used to be better than this. Age is not improving the quality of your message board postings.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:Reagan (mostly his handlers) created virtually all the problems, foreign and domestic, we find ourselves mired in today. Sanctimonious, self-righteous cocksucker.
Just as people who lionize Reagan pump up his positive contributions too much, so do the people, like Cappy, who despise the guy overly hyperbolize his faults. And you can't get more hyperbolized than this - reall, virtually all of the problems we have are due to him? Come on Cappy, you used to be better than this. Age is not improving the quality of your message board postings.
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I've documented in my posts for years at AGS and here the seamy effects of Reaganism on our nation. It was an abomination and the guy (again, mostly his handlers) left us in a shit situation. He did not get the world to respect us, for example. He got the world to fear and loath us, something taken to full advantage and deadly extreme by subsequent Conks. His "trickle down" has been proven to be, indeed, "voodoo economics" and has never worked. The quality of your posts (most of which are excellent) suffers when you put on the red, white and blue glasses, amigo.
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I'm always skeptical of people trying to take one or two past elections and saying that those elections will play out similiarly for years to come. The Dems thought the GOP was irrelevant and destined to lose elections for as far as the eye could see after the demolition in 2008, only to have the Dems implode and not only lose a super majority but lose one of the Houses of Congress in the very next election in 2010. And considering that both parties pretty much held serve in 2012 (neither party losing anything they already had) I don't see how anyone could say one party or the other is not electable at this time. Politics have very short memories, and there's always another election coming up.
You're talking about congressional races and I'm talking about the presidential race. The republicans may have made big gains in 2010 but that does not mean McCain would have a snowballs chance to beat Obama if the presidential race had occurred in 2010. The republicans don't have the terrorism issues to rally around as a lot of right-of-center folks are getting wary of wars and domestic spying. The donks just have a more cohesive coalition of different types of voters they can get under one tent. Unless there's another major terrorist attack or the economy really takes a turn for the worse the donks will win the next presidential election.
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Pwns wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
I'm always skeptical of people trying to take one or two past elections and saying that those elections will play out similiarly for years to come. The Dems thought the GOP was irrelevant and destined to lose elections for as far as the eye could see after the demolition in 2008, only to have the Dems implode and not only lose a super majority but lose one of the Houses of Congress in the very next election in 2010. And considering that both parties pretty much held serve in 2012 (neither party losing anything they already had) I don't see how anyone could say one party or the other is not electable at this time. Politics have very short memories, and there's always another election coming up.
You're talking about congressional races and I'm talking about the presidential race. The republicans may have made big gains in 2010 but that does not mean McCain would have a snowballs chance to beat Obama if the presidential race had occurred in 2010. The republicans don't have the terrorism issues to rally around as a lot of right-of-center folks are getting wary of wars and domestic spying. The donks just have a more cohesive coalition of different types of voters they can get under one tent. Unless there's another major terrorist attack or the economy really takes a turn for the worse the donks will win the next presidential election.
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Cap'n Cat wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Just as people who lionize Reagan pump up his positive contributions too much, so do the people, like Cappy, who despise the guy overly hyperbolize his faults. And you can't get more hyperbolized than this - reall, virtually all of the problems we have are due to him? Come on Cappy, you used to be better than this. Age is not improving the quality of your message board postings.
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I've documented in my posts for years at AGS and here the seamy effects of Reaganism on our nation. It was an abomination and the guy (again, mostly his handlers) left us in a shit situation. He did not get the world to respect us, for example. He got the world to fear and loath us, something taken to full advantage and deadly extreme by subsequent Conks. His "trickle down" has been proven to be, indeed, "voodoo economics" and has never worked. The quality of your posts (most of which are excellent) suffers when you put on the red, white and blue glasses, amigo.
And, regarding my posts, you're right, age has not improved the quality of some of my posts. Nevertheless, I am a senior poster here and my word is that of God most of the time.

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Pwns wrote:
You're talking about congressional races and I'm talking about the presidential race. The republicans may have made big gains in 2010 but that does not mean McCain would have a snowballs chance to beat Obama if the presidential race had occurred in 2010. The republicans don't have the terrorism issues to rally around as a lot of right-of-center folks are getting wary of wars and domestic spying. The donks just have a more cohesive coalition of different types of voters they can get under one tent. Unless there's another major terrorist attack or the economy really takes a turn for the worse the donks will win the next presidential election.
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