Unemployment Lowest in 4 years

[BlueHen86]

I wasn't around during the Carter presidency, but this is typical of internet Carter banter. Small fragments suggesting Carter was like.... the worst ever, you know.

Like I said, I know little about the Carter era outside of gas shortages, Iran and what many have called a non-interventionist approach to the economy. So... why is Carter like the worst ever? Those things I mentioned? Honestly, I don't have much of an opinion on the guy.

Two years of stagflation at the end of his term, mishandling Soviet expansionism, the "malaise" speech, fundamentalist arrogance, expanding the federal bureaucracy, an incompetent cabinet...he was a great President...

Carter is probably the worst President of my lifetime (Kennedy was Pres when I was born). I think Bush II is next worse. Way too early to grade Obama. Might even still be too early to accurately grade Bush II.

[AZGrizFan]

Two years of stagflation at the end of his term, mishandling Soviet expansionism, the "malaise" speech, fundamentalist arrogance, expanding the federal bureaucracy, an incompetent cabinet...he was a great President...

Carter is probably the worst President of my lifetime (Kennedy was Pres when I was born). I think Bush II is next worse. Way too early to grade Obama. Might even still be too early to accurately grade Bush II.

Ya think?

[JoltinJoe]

A second Carter term, and we would have lost the Cold War.

[BlueHen86]

Carter is probably the worst President of my lifetime (Kennedy was Pres when I was born). I think Bush II is next worse. Way too early to grade Obama. Might even still be too early to accurately grade Bush II.

Ya think?

I said it, didn't I?

I don't see you sticking up for Obama.

[BlueHen86]

A second Carter term, and we would have lost the Cold War.

To Iran.

[AZGrizFan]

Ya think?

I said it, didn't I?

I don't see you sticking up for Obama.

That's because I'm not an idiot.

[AZGrizFan]

A second Carter term, and we would have lost the Cold War.

To Iran.

[BlueHen86]

I said it, didn't I?

I don't see you sticking up for Obama.

That's because I'm not an idiot.

Yet you stick up for Bush 2

[AZGrizFan]

That's because I'm not an idiot.

Yet you stick up for Bush 2

You misunderestimate me.

[BlueHen86]

Yet you stick up for Bush 2

You misunderestimate me.

Good use of strategery on your part.

[AZGrizFan]

You misunderestimate me.

Good use of strategery on your part.

Mission Accomplished.

[CitadelGrad]

Iran held American hostages for 444 days during the Carter presidency. They were released the day that Reagan was inaugurated. That should tell you all you need to know about Carter.

[BlueHen86]

Iran held American hostages for 444 days during the Carter presidency. They were released the day that Reagan was inaugurated. That should tell you all you need to know about Carter.

I don't think it's that simple. Ultimately the hostages came home alive. I have a major problem with the 444 days, but a "tough guy" President might have taken action sooner and gotten the hostages killed.

[kalm]

Iran held American hostages for 444 days during the Carter presidency. They were released the day that Reagan was inaugurated. That should tell you all you need to know about Carter.

Meanwhile, somewhere far away, in an alternate universe unknown to conks, the next president would sell arms to Iran while simultaneously selling arms and providing financial, technical, and intelligence support to it's adversary turned US ally. Ironically enough, that administration's emissary to this worthy ally would go on to become Secretary of Defense in a future administration, beating the drums of War to attack said ally...




Conk history...



But Carter was bad...

[AZGrizFan]

Iran held American hostages for 444 days during the Carter presidency. They were released the day that Reagan was inaugurated. That should tell you all you need to know about Carter.

Meanwhile, somewhere far away, in an alternate universe unknown to conks, the next president would sell arms to Iran while simultaneously selling arms and providing financial, technical, and intelligence support to it's adversary turned US ally. Ironically enough, that administration's emissary to this worthy ally would go on to become Secretary of Defense in a future administration, beating the drums of War to attack said ally...




Conk history...

Because thats NEVER happened in donk history. Said noone...EVER.

[kalm]

Meanwhile, somewhere far away, in an alternate universe unknown to conks, the next president would sell arms to Iran while simultaneously selling arms and providing financial, technical, and intelligence support to it's adversary turned US ally. Ironically enough, that administration's emissary to this worthy ally would go on to become Secretary of Defense in a future administration, beating the drums of War to attack said ally...




Conk history...

Because thats NEVER happened in donk history. Said noone...EVER.

Similar shenanigans are happening right now.

[AZGrizFan]

Because thats NEVER happened in donk history. Said noone...EVER.

Similar shenanigans are happening right now.

Exactly.

[houndawg]

I wasn't around during the Carter presidency, but this is typical of internet Carter banter. Small fragments suggesting Carter was like.... the worst ever, you know.

Like I said, I know little about the Carter era outside of gas shortages, Iran and what many have called a non-interventionist approach to the economy. So... why is Carter like the worst ever? Those things I mentioned? Honestly, I don't have much of an opinion on the guy.

Two years of stagflation at the end of his term, mishandling Soviet expansionism, the "malaise" speech, fundamentalist arrogance, expanding the federal bureaucracy, an incompetent cabinet...he was a great President...

sounds about average...

[AZGrizFan]

Two years of stagflation at the end of his term, mishandling Soviet expansionism, the "malaise" speech, fundamentalist arrogance, expanding the federal bureaucracy, an incompetent cabinet...he was a great President...

sounds about average...

Outside of the "malaise" speech (which no left winger wants to hear)...

[houndawg]

sounds about average...

Outside of the "malaise" speech (which no left winger wants to hear)...

I cut him some slack when he admitted to having "lust in his heart"...

[houndawg]

I must come to the defense of statistics again. You can attempt to lie with statistics. But it only works if you're trying to lie to someone who doesn't understand how "statistics" works.

You can try to lie with anything. Words. Pictures. So on and so forth.

And when you do you just have to hope that the person you're trying to lie to doesn't know enough about the subject matter.

Uh, yeah. That's kind of the point, John. And the "unemployment" number might be the biggest lie masquarading as a statistic ever perpetrated upon the American people...well, right after the concept of a sequestration "cut" that actually was just a cut to a 7% increase.

Statistics are like a bikini; what they reveal is suggestive but what they conceal is vital.
Prof. Aaron Levenstein.

[AZGrizFan]

Outside of the "malaise" speech (which no left winger wants to hear)...

I cut him some slack when he admitted to having "lust in his heart"...

But he lost that cred when he was afraid of the killer rabbit.

[houndawg]

I cut him some slack when he admitted to having "lust in his heart"...

But he lost that cred when he was afraid of the killer rabbit.

That rabbit was KGB, Carter was lucky to get away alive.

[AZGrizFan]

But he lost that cred when he was afraid of the killer rabbit.

That rabbit was KGB, Carter was lucky to get away alive.

It was a republican rabbit.

[SuperHornet]

Iran held American hostages for 444 days during the Carter presidency. They were released the day that Reagan was inaugurated. That should tell you all you need to know about Carter.

What that tells ME is that the Reagan Campaign had back-channel dealings with the bloody Ayatollah about the timing of the release...SPECIFICALLY to make Carter look bad.

Carter at least TRIED something with HIS major crisis. Senile old Reagan just sat there with his thumb up his butt when HIS came along, letting a good man take the fall for his stupidity....