Bobby Jindal did.BlueHen86 wrote:I haven't heard anyone say Romney is the winner. Did Fox declare Romney the winner?AZGrizFan wrote:
When EVERY poll says Romney won, that means something. When the polls are divided based on their stations' slant, they mean much, much less.
I don't know if Fox has declared a winner yet. They did say Obummer did better, but then again, that bar was set pretty low at the last debate.93henfan wrote:Bobby Jindal did.BlueHen86 wrote:
I haven't heard anyone say Romney is the winner. Did Fox declare Romney the winner?
Nope. Romney spit out a bullshit Republican talking point got called on it. Finally.Baldy wrote:Oops...Obama just kicked himself in the bag over Benghazi.....again.Skjellyfetti wrote:Not even over yet, dumbass.
And, I said Romney won the last one right after it was over.
Obama is kicking much more ass so far this go round.
edit: Goddamn. And of course right after you start this thread declaring Romney the winner... Romney drives the damn bus off the cliff.
The fat bitch was wrong. Obama didn't specifically refer to the Benghazi attack as a terrorist attack the next day in the Rose Garden. He made a generic remark about terrorism.∞∞∞ wrote:I think Romney started strong but has looked a bit shaken since Candy corrected him on that Rose Garden question. I thought it might have been a defying point in the debate for Romney, but it went completely against him. These things are remembered by a moment like that and Obama amazingly came out on top; I really thought Romney had him there.
And you donks like to claim Bush lied to the UN. Well, Obama just did it last month. 
Bingo. They had Crazy Uncle Joe lying about it last week, and Obama this week.AZGrizFan wrote:1) Obama couldn't/wouldn't answer the question about cutting permits
2) Obama took WEEKS to admit Benghazi was an act of terror
Obama looked like a buffoon in both those instances.
This transcipt?BDKJMU wrote: And that fat fuc*ing sow was wrong- Obama claimed he called the Bengazi attack a terrorist attack the next day in the Rose Garden. He didn't. The fat bitch needs to go re read the transcript her self.
Skjellyfetti wrote:
"No acts of TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation..."
-Barack Obama, Rose Garden, 9/12/12
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The one in which he didn't specifically refer to the Benghazi attack as a terrorist attack but rather made a general remark about terrorism the day after the 9/11 10 yr anniversary.Skjellyfetti wrote:This transcipt?BDKJMU wrote: And that fat fuc*ing sow was wrong- Obama claimed he called the Bengazi attack a terrorist attack the next day in the Rose Garden. He didn't. The fat bitch needs to go re read the transcript her self.
Skjellyfetti wrote:
"No acts of TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation..."
-Barack Obama, Rose Garden, 9/12/12
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... taff-libya" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Even Crowley and Anderson Cooper are admitting that she was incorrect in her defense of Obama's comments...you're on the losing side here...Skjellyfetti wrote:This transcipt?BDKJMU wrote: And that fat fuc*ing sow was wrong- Obama claimed he called the Bengazi attack a terrorist attack the next day in the Rose Garden. He didn't. The fat bitch needs to go re read the transcript her self.
Skjellyfetti wrote:
"No acts of TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation..."
-Barack Obama, Rose Garden, 9/12/12
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... taff-libya" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
BDKJMU wrote: The one in which he didn't specifically refer to the Benghazi attack as a terrorist attack but rather made a general remark about terrorism the day after the 9/11 10 yr anniversary.
Pretty clear he's talking about Benghazi.No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
I refer you to Jon Stewart's skewering of Obama and his circus of clowns regarding the Benghazi incident.Skjellyfetti wrote:BDKJMU wrote: The one in which he didn't specifically refer to the Benghazi attack as a terrorist attack but rather made a general remark about terrorism the day after the 9/11 10 yr anniversary.
He's talking about the Benghazi attack, dumbass.
Pretty clear he's talking about Benghazi.No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.
The White House mishandled Benghazi as badly as Romney handled the White House's handling of Benghazi.AZGrizFan wrote:I refer you to Jon Stewart's skewering of Obama and his circus of clowns regarding the Benghazi incident.Skjellyfetti wrote:
He's talking about the Benghazi attack, dumbass.
Pretty clear he's talking about Benghazi.
The point he SHOULD have pressed was the fact that Obama never answered the fucking question he was asked, in that "why didn't he provide extra security as requested HUNDREDS of times by the staff at Benghazi in the weeks/months leading up to the attack?" THAT is the reason why they needed this to be a "spontaneous' attack so badly...if it was PLANNED, and intelligence told them it was planned, and they knowingly ignored requests for additional security, they look like complete jackasses.BlueHen86 wrote:The White House mishandled Benghazi as badly as Romney handled the White House's handling of Benghazi.AZGrizFan wrote:
I refer you to Jon Stewart's skewering of Obama and his circus of clowns regarding the Benghazi incident.
Romney should have scored points here, instead he losses. Even if the fact checkers back him, it's too late. People will remember the debate far better than they will remember the post debate, if they even hear about the post debate.
I don't think Romney knew exactly what Obama said in the Rose Garden so he couldn't press the point.
Spot on.GannonFan wrote:Don't know - all I'm seeing are two guys who are embarrassing themselves. Neither with much of an idea of what to do but with plenty of ideas of how to try to look like tough guys in the debate format. It's like two guys on a message board going tit for tat. While that works great here, it just looks sad on TV when in a Presidential setting.
I think it's a clear tie - both have dropped in my esteem.
That's a bit silly. This is an unscripted debate. Yes, they have their talking points going in, but you can't really expect them to keep the answers to two minutes and have a coherent discussion (not that what we saw last night was that coherent anyway).BDKJMU wrote:This should be taken out of the moderators hands. When their clock strikes zero there should either be a buzzer or their mikes should be cut. 2 minutes should mean 2 minutes, not a second more.
I kind of disagree about point #1. Sure, it's not on the scale of 9/11 and shouldn't be confused with that, but it is disturbing that there was a major terrorist attack, on the anniversary of 9/11, and we didn't see it coming, we didn't prepare for it coming, and after it happened we weren't even sure it happened. US ambassadors don't get killed very often - this is only something like the 4th active ambassador to be killed in the line of duty so it is something that needs to be a big story.kalm wrote:Spot on.GannonFan wrote:Don't know - all I'm seeing are two guys who are embarrassing themselves. Neither with much of an idea of what to do but with plenty of ideas of how to try to look like tough guys in the debate format. It's like two guys on a message board going tit for tat. While that works great here, it just looks sad on TV when in a Presidential setting.
I think it's a clear tie - both have dropped in my esteem.
A couple more observations:
1) The Bhengazi thing is WAY over-blown. It's tragic that 4 americans died, including an ambassador, and that we were attacked. But we are in a multi-front war on terror. This **** happens and frankly it's surprising it hasn't happened more often. Could the administration have done more to prevent it? Sure. Are the fact it happened and the resulting spin things that ANY other administration could have avoided for sure? Probably not. It's not like 3,000 americans dying on their own soil, and the only reason it continues to have traction is for political purposes. In the grander scheme of things, the little Pakistani girl who got shot should be way more a story.
2) We all know time of possession can be important, but it can also be beaten by quality of possession. The Romney fans remind me of bisonville after a certain quarterfinal game.
Agreed. And Romney missed a huge chance last night by wordsmithing Obama's answer instead of attacking his lack of an answer to the actual QUESTION.GannonFan wrote:I kind of disagree about point #1. Sure, it's not on the scale of 9/11 and shouldn't be confused with that, but it is disturbing that there was a major terrorist attack, on the anniversary of 9/11, and we didn't see it coming, we didn't prepare for it coming, and after it happened we weren't even sure it happened. US ambassadors don't get killed very often - this is only something like the 4th active ambassador to be killed in the line of duty so it is something that needs to be a big story.
The thing is, both are bungling the issue. Obama hasn't done a good job of showing that he's on top of the situation or that they did the right things before or after it happened. And Romney has looked feeble in being able to question why they didn't do the right things before or after it happened. But I still think it's a pretty big story.
Good postblueballs wrote:That was an hour and a half of my life I will never get back... what a bunch of dumbass questioners and the moderator was even worse.
Who gives a flying **** in space about "how Romney is different than Bush?" You stupid ****! Have you not been paying attention to the entire campaign???
Who gives a rat's hairy ass about gun control and assault rifles? The real unemployment rate is close to 12%, we have border control agents being killed by gangsters with weapons that came from our government, and we have embassies with Al Qaeda flags.... and that's the best question we can come up with??????
They wasted about 7 minutes talking about government sponsored birth control. If you are pro choice you have to be pro choice about contraception. It is a matter of personal responsibility to take care of your own birth control. If you can't afford it don't **** or simply suck dick. It isn't my job to pay for YOUR contraception. If you want the government out of your pussy as you say you do, then get them ALL the way out.
How can I be sure I get a job after college???? You stupid, pathetic ****... get an education in a trade that is in demand in the marketplace and make yourself so good and so valuable that the people hiring will want you. We who hire people hire because we think they will help our company and make us more money than they cost us. Freakin' common sense you little moron...
And finally.... Crowley **** the bed on Obama's statements in the Rose Garden and chided Romney into sitting down. It is one thing to be disrespectful, it is quite another to be factually incorrect while being disrespectful. SMFH.....
IF the GOP ever agrees to this format again they are dumber than I think they are and deserve whatever happens to them.
All in all, a very poor format with very poor questioners and a pathetic moderator. The only thing that was accomplished last night was Obama showed a pulse, even if he was extremely loose with the facts. Like the commercial says, "It ain't what you do it's the way that you do it..." Gawd....
