AG Holder demands Florida allow ineligible voters

[Grizalltheway]

White male property-owners, just like the Founding Fathers intended.

Wouldn't want to end like Germany with some chick running the country.

Angela's a hottie with a naughty body. Just ask W.

[kalm]

White male property-owners, just like the Founding Fathers intended.

Everyone who pays taxes should be allowed to vote. If you don't pay taxes, you can't vote.

I don't mind the concept but is this limited to federal income taxes only? How about local elections? What if you have a bad year and owe nothing in taxes? Do you not get to vote that year? Who keeps track of all this?

[Grizalltheway]

Everyone who pays taxes should be allowed to vote. If you don't pay taxes, you can't vote.

I don't mind the concept but is this limited to federal income taxes only? How about local elections? What if you have a bad year and owe nothing in taxes? Do you not get to vote that year? Who keeps track of all this?

A new federal agency, of which conks are such big fans.

[BDKJMU]

Another broken record right out of the talking points.


Also Sodomy

The broken record would be the conk fear mongering over the issue. It's a non issue:

Because voter fraud is essentially irrational, it is not surprising that no credible evidence suggests a voter fraud epidemic. There is no documented wave or trend of individuals voting multiple times, voting as someone else, or voting despite knowing that they are ineligible. Indeed, evidence from the microscopically scrutinized 2004 gubernatorial election in Washington State actually reveals just the opposite: though voter fraud does happen, it happens approximately 0.0009% of the time. The similarly closely-analyzed 2004 election in Ohio revealed a voter fraud rate of 0.00004%. National Weather Service data shows that Americans are struck and killed by lightning about as often.

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Conk strategies:

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Oh baloney:
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[kalm]

I don't mind the concept but is this limited to federal income taxes only? How about local elections? What if you have a bad year and owe nothing in taxes? Do you not get to vote that year? Who keeps track of all this?

A new federal agency, of which conks are such big fans.

Well they did create the EPA and Homeland Security.

[Bronco]

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When your vote is cancelled out by an illegal or dead person that woud be voter disenfranchisement

Florida Tells Holder to Blow it Out His ASS

(Business Insider) — Florida state officials will continue their quest to purge purportedly ineligible people from voter-registration rolls, a representative of Secretary of State Ken Detzner said Saturday, in defiance of objections from the U.S.

On Thursday, T. Christian Herren Jr., the head of the Justice Department’s voting section, said the effort to remove voters appears to violate the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which outlaws discriminatory voting practices that disenfranchise minorities.

Despite the warning, Detzner’s representative said on Saturday the state intends to go forward with its campaign. “We have a year-round obligation to ensure the integrity of Florida’s elections. We will be responding to (the Justice Department’s) concerns next week,” Chris Cate wrote in an email to Reuters.

[kalm]

The broken record would be the conk fear mongering over the issue. It's a non issue:





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Oh baloney:
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Pipe down, your stats have just been refuted.

[BlueHen86]

Everyone who pays taxes should be allowed to vote. If you don't pay taxes, you can't vote.

I don't mind the concept but is this limited to federal income taxes only? How about local elections? What if you have a bad year and owe nothing in taxes? Do you not get to vote that year? Who keeps track of all this?

If someone can keep track of my voting history after the fact, they should also be able to keep track of my eligibility before the fact. Obviously some things would have to be worked out, but we can be be smart when we want to be. The reason that our voting situation is so screwed up right now is that the two parties don't want to fix things.

[kalm]

I don't mind the concept but is this limited to federal income taxes only? How about local elections? What if you have a bad year and owe nothing in taxes? Do you not get to vote that year? Who keeps track of all this?

If someone can keep track of my voting history after the fact, they should also be able to keep track of my eligibility before the fact. Obviously some things would have to be worked out, but we can be be smart when we want to be. The reason that our voting situation is so screwed up right now is that the two parties don't want to fix things.

Yes it could be done, but it would be fairly complicated. Florida can't keep track of basic voter eligibility as it is. And it would have to be a federal program but would then have to also coordinate with the states for local elections.

[BlueHen86]

If someone can keep track of my voting history after the fact, they should also be able to keep track of my eligibility before the fact. Obviously some things would have to be worked out, but we can be be smart when we want to be. The reason that our voting situation is so screwed up right now is that the two parties don't want to fix things.

Yes it could be done, but it would be fairly complicated. Florida can't keep track of basic voter eligibility as it is. And it would have to be a federal program but would then have to also coordinate with the states for local elections.

Agreed, but that might not be a bad thing. Standardize the way we conduct elections and maybe Bush v Gore never happens. Our current system is pretty stupid. Counties run their elections the way they see fit, and if there is a problem they can't agree on what a completed ballot looks like.

If Bumfuck County wants to use a butterfly ballot for local elections thats one thing, but if it's a national election everyone should be doing the same thing.

[kalm]

Yes it could be done, but it would be fairly complicated. Florida can't keep track of basic voter eligibility as it is. And it would have to be a federal program but would then have to also coordinate with the states for local elections.

Agreed, but that might not be a bad thing. Standardize the way we conduct elections and maybe Bush v Gore never happens. Our current system is pretty stupid. Counties run their elections the way they see fit, and if there is a problem they can't agree on what a completed ballot looks like.

If Bumfuck County wants to use a butterfly ballot for local elections thats one thing, but if it's a national election everyone should be doing the same thing.

Solid point, but try getting the "Department of Elections" past the Republicans.

[Col Hogan]

And the Federal Judges tells Holder NO!

A federal judge has refused to stop Florida from removing potentially non-U.S. citizens from its rolls.

The U.S. Department of Justice sued the state to halt the purge, arguing it was going on too close to a federal election.

U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle said Wednesday that there was nothing in federal voting laws that prevent the state from identifying non-U.S. citizens even if it comes less than 90 days before the Aug. 14 election.

Hinkle ruled that federal laws are designed to block states from removing eligible voters close to an election. He said they are not designed to stop states from blocking voters who should have never been allowed to cast ballots in the first place.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... latestnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A federal judge who supports the Constitution...Thank You, your Honor...

[CID1990]

And the Federal Judges tells Holder NO!

A federal judge has refused to stop Florida from removing potentially non-U.S. citizens from its rolls.

The U.S. Department of Justice sued the state to halt the purge, arguing it was going on too close to a federal election.

U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle said Wednesday that there was nothing in federal voting laws that prevent the state from identifying non-U.S. citizens even if it comes less than 90 days before the Aug. 14 election.

Hinkle ruled that federal laws are designed to block states from removing eligible voters close to an election. He said they are not designed to stop states from blocking voters who should have never been allowed to cast ballots in the first place.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... latestnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A federal judge who supports the Constitution...Thank You, your Honor...

No, it's a federal judge who can actually read the effing statute.

[Col Hogan]

And the Federal Judges tells Holder NO!



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... latestnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A federal judge who supports the Constitution...Thank You, your Honor...

No, it's a federal judge who can actually read the effing statute.

Same difference...

[BDKJMU]

As usual, CitadelGrad is fibbing.


Rick Scott is VIOLATING THE LAW in several ways.

1) His list of "ineligbile voters" is flat out wrong - it has been PROVEN that he is trying to kick US CITIZENS off the voting roles - including some 90+ year old veterans.

2) Law prohibits doing these type of purges less than 90 days before a primary or general election.


Rick Scott and his cronies are committing VOTING FRAUD. AG Holder is rightfully protecting the voting rights of US CITIZENS.


Great job, Holder!!

BS. The only thing that has been proven is you're full of hyperbole.

Fla should ignore the justice dept. What is Holder going to do? Hold someone in contempt.

[BDKJMU]

A while back I stumbled onto a website that tracks peoples voting history. Not who they voted for, but whether they voted or not. Found my info on there and it correctly listed all the recent elections that I have voted in.

Seems to me that if we can keep track of voters after the fact, we should be able to do it ahead of time as well. Part of the registration process should be to get photographed. Every voter will have a picture ID, but also their picture will be stored in a database that can be accessed in case the photo is lost.

It shouldn't be that hard to track voters. When JFK said that we were going to the moon, we did it in less than 10 years. Bush v Gore happened 12 years ago and Florida is still **** up.

Very well put, 86!

The only people who have anything to fear from voter ID are parole violators and deadbeat dads. And probably not even them.

And illegal aliens.

And for dead people.

[BDKJMU]

White male property-owners, just like the Founding Fathers intended.

Everyone who pays INCOME taxes should be allowed to vote. If you don't pay INCOME taxes, you can't vote.

FIFY

[BDKJMU]

And the Federal Judges tells Holder NO!

A federal judge has refused to stop Florida from removing potentially non-U.S. citizens from its rolls.

The U.S. Department of Justice sued the state to halt the purge, arguing it was going on too close to a federal election.

U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle said Wednesday that there was nothing in federal voting laws that prevent the state from identifying non-U.S. citizens even if it comes less than 90 days before the Aug. 14 election.

Hinkle ruled that federal laws are designed to block states from removing eligible voters close to an election. He said they are not designed to stop states from blocking voters who should have never been allowed to cast ballots in the first place.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... latestnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A federal judge who supports the Constitution...Thank You, your Honor...

Ooops I should have read further before responding. Instead of ignoring Holder, FL can just give that SOB a big FU.

[CitadelGrad]

And the Federal Judges tells Holder NO!

A federal judge has refused to stop Florida from removing potentially non-U.S. citizens from its rolls.

The U.S. Department of Justice sued the state to halt the purge, arguing it was going on too close to a federal election.

U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle said Wednesday that there was nothing in federal voting laws that prevent the state from identifying non-U.S. citizens even if it comes less than 90 days before the Aug. 14 election.

Hinkle ruled that federal laws are designed to block states from removing eligible voters close to an election. He said they are not designed to stop states from blocking voters who should have never been allowed to cast ballots in the first place.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... latestnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A federal judge who supports the Constitution...Thank You, your Honor...

I'm sure the libtard kneejerk reaction will be to smear this guy as a GOP appointee, like the evil triumvirate of Alito, Scalia and Thomas. He was, however, appointed by Clinton.

He's Harvard Law '76. Maybe Ivytalk was his classmate. Oh wait, that's 1976, not 1876.

[YoUDeeMan]

And the Federal Judges tells Holder NO!

A federal judge has refused to stop Florida from removing potentially non-U.S. citizens from its rolls.

The U.S. Department of Justice sued the state to halt the purge, arguing it was going on too close to a federal election.

U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle said Wednesday that there was nothing in federal voting laws that prevent the state from identifying non-U.S. citizens even if it comes less than 90 days before the Aug. 14 election.

Hinkle ruled that federal laws are designed to block states from removing eligible voters close to an election. He said they are not designed to stop states from blocking voters who should have never been allowed to cast ballots in the first place.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/06 ... latestnews" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A federal judge who supports the Constitution...Thank You, your Honor...

[AZGrizFan]

I don't mind the concept but is this limited to federal income taxes only? How about local elections? What if you have a bad year and owe nothing in taxes? Do you not get to vote that year? Who keeps track of all this?

A new federal agency, of which conks are such big fans.

Don't we already have a bloated, overstaffed, government bureaucracy that tracks who pays what in taxes?