Miserable: Unemployment Rate Up to 9.2%

[houndawg]

Public sector jobs are WAY down - that is what is driving the unemployment. You want government to cut jobs, then you complain when all those people hit the job market.

If corporate America would do it's part - hire/spend instead of holding on to massive cash, then we would be fine.

Where do you get that? I don't think you have a source for that. Public sector jobs are not way down. They aren't even down. Plus, even if they WERE down, public sector jobs would need to have dropped out by more than 30-40% to give us a 9.2% unemployment rate. That, my friend, will NEVER happen under a Democratic OR a Republican administration.

As to the other premise- corporate America's part is not hiring and spending. Corporate America's part is making money, and right now they are not doing that which is why they are hoarding their liquidity.

Plus, since corporate America equals private America, it is nobody's business but the shareholders how they operate. Shareholders (including guys like me who have 401Ks and other investments) get a little nervous when "corporate America" starts doing dumb things, like NOT hoarding their cash in a recession.

Here's a question for you: would you buy stock in US manufacturing companies right now? General Motors? I doubt you would. Working under that assumption, why would you expect "corporate America" to exhibit fiscal behavior that even an economic layman knows is risky at best and plain stupid in general.

Because it is SOP for them?

[kalm]

As to the other premise- corporate America's part is not hiring and spending. Corporate America's part is making money, and right now they are not doing that which is why they are hoarding their liquidity.

Plus, since corporate America equals private America, it is nobody's business but the shareholders how they operate. Shareholders (including guys like me who have 401Ks and other investments) get a little nervous when "corporate America" starts doing dumb things, like NOT hoarding their cash in a recession.

As long as their actions can infringe upon the rights of individuals, corporate practices are everyone's business. A long time ago states used to protect the public's interest by holding corporations more accountable.

[kalm]

Where do you get that? I don't think you have a source for that. Public sector jobs are not way down. They aren't even down. Plus, even if they WERE down, public sector jobs would need to have dropped out by more than 30-40% to give us a 9.2% unemployment rate. That, my friend, will NEVER happen under a Democratic OR a Republican administration.

As to the other premise- corporate America's part is not hiring and spending. Corporate America's part is making money, and right now they are not doing that which is why they are hoarding their liquidity.

Plus, since corporate America equals private America, it is nobody's business but the shareholders how they operate. Shareholders (including guys like me who have 401Ks and other investments) get a little nervous when "corporate America" starts doing dumb things, like NOT hoarding their cash in a recession.

Here's a question for you: would you buy stock in US manufacturing companies right now? General Motors? I doubt you would. Working under that assumption, why would you expect "corporate America" to exhibit fiscal behavior that even an economic layman knows is risky at best and plain stupid in general.

Because it is SOP for them?

[Ivytalk]

Wars always grow the federal government. It ain't rocket science.

When I left the Marine Corps in 2000, the active duty strength was ~165K. It's now well over 200K, and the Marine Corps is the smallest of the four main services.

Heard on the radio the other night that a lot of civilian positions in the military are overstaffed right now. When soldiers start coming home and leaving the service, the ranks of the unemployed will likely swell further.

[Bronco]

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Reminds me of when Clinton bashed the Yacht industry and in no time their business tanked and many jobs were lost ...much of the business is in Mexico now.
Words have consequences and bashing corporations and job creators to play to the base has not worked for this president. But who would expect anything different from someone who has never held a real job.

[Fill In Blank] Industry Furious At Obama
Pajamas Media ^ | July 7, 2011 | Ed Driscoll


Another week, another sector of American industry angry at the president.

This week, it’s the jet industry, according to the Daily Caller:

Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPO) President Craig Fuller told The Daily Caller that Obama’s comments have cast a pall over the industry, causing many who were considering buying a plane to back away from making a purchase.

“The industry has suffered terribly in the last two and a half years and it has just started to recover. Most of the signs were starting to look good,” said Fuller. “We are so angry as an industry and we have all come together to try to bring a more fair and balanced description to the debate.”

In response to Obama’s press conference, the General Aviation Manufacturers Association (GAMA) and International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) issued a letter to the president. The two organizations challenged the administration’s rhetoric and recalled a similar instance in which 20,000 IAM workers were laid off as a result of “ill-informed criticism of corporate jets and business aviation” and the 2008 downturn.

“Words have consequences and, in this industry, a few misguided words can put at risk even the ever-so-modest recovery we have experienced,” said IAM International President Tom Buffenbarger. “What this industry and its workforce requires is more time to recover, a chance to book more orders and the opportunity to recall more workers.”

The president himself saw a benefit in providing tax breaks for corporate jets just in the past couple of years, signing two pieces of legislation that contained such provisions: the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, and the Small Business Lending Fund Act.

Indeed, one of of the greatest perks of being president is flying in the most private jet of all, Air Force One. According to Fuller, Obama has flown Air Force One more than any other president in history.

Nevertheless, the industry has felt Obama’s wrath.

So starting as a presidential candidate, Obama has:

• Called for bankrupting the coal industry.
• Raised gas prices by forcing domestic production to a crawl.
• Demonized bankers and automatic teller machines.
• Went to war against Fox News, talk radio, and Twitter user Kevin Eder.
• Alienated Wall Street, which backed him in 2008 — and will probably do so again.
• Nationalized the car industry.
• Forced Chrysler to terminate 25 percent of its auto dealers.
• Demonized Las Vegas.
• Alinskyized the Chamber of Commerce.
• Blocked Boeing from expanding into a Right to Work State.
• Is busy transforming the insurance industry into the equivalent of quasi-government utilities.
• Created an uncertain (to say the least) regulatory environment, making new hiring a challenging proposition.
• And is now Alisnkyizing private planes, despite having temporary custody of the greatest “private” plane of all.

As Doug Ross wrote last fall, “Unlike Tricky Dick Nixon, Obama Wears His Enemies List On His Sleeve.”

http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2011 ... -at-obama/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[travelinman67]

Public sector jobs are WAY down - that is what is driving the unemployment. You want government to cut jobs, then you complain when all those people hit the job market.

If corporate America would do it's part - hire/spend instead of holding on to massive cash, then we would be fine.

Consumerism is flat because we are in a depression. Why should industry waste $XXXm in faclilities and fixed assets, and another 50% for COGS when govt. taxes/permits/compliance/regs. will suck them for 45% of their remaining revenue?

No...really. That's a serious question. Until our country's representatives pull their heads out into the sunshine and place a CAP on the total percentage of govt. "taxation" (aggregated fees/mitigation/taxes/"penalties") allowed, we'll continue to sink further in debt.

Fix GDP and we'll fix jobs both in the private and public sector.

I PRAY that one day you become a business owner/landlord so that you finally understand my frustration.

[kalm]

Public sector jobs are WAY down - that is what is driving the unemployment. You want government to cut jobs, then you complain when all those people hit the job market.

If corporate America would do it's part - hire/spend instead of holding on to massive cash, then we would be fine.

Consumerism is flat because we are in a depression. Why should industry waste $XXXm in faclilities and fixed assets, and another 50% for COGS when govt. taxes/permits/compliance/regs. will suck them for 45% of their remaining revenue?

Because most of them are still profitable and want to stay competitive within their market. I do like how included permitting/compliance/regs with your statement though. That shit adds up and often times is neglected in these discussions. Serious question, where do you get the 45% number from?

[travelinman67]

As to the other premise- corporate America's part is not hiring and spending. Corporate America's part is making money, and right now they are not doing that which is why they are hoarding their liquidity.

Plus, since corporate America equals private America, it is nobody's business but the shareholders how they operate. Shareholders (including guys like me who have 401Ks and other investments) get a little nervous when "corporate America" starts doing dumb things, like NOT hoarding their cash in a recession.

As long as their actions can infringe upon the rights of individuals, corporate practices are everyone's business. A long time ago states used to protect the public's interest by holding corporations more accountable.

It's not government's role to play nanny.

A few years back, Sec. of Interior Bruce Babbit, during an interview about enforcement of certain recreational activites in the National Parks, remarked, "Where in the constitution does it say *they* have the right to do that [referring to the activity]?"
In thoughtlessly (candidly) expressing his viewpoint, Babbit underscored the essence of this misunderstanding of our govts role.

Freedoms exist unless Congress/lawmakers specifically regulate them, not vice versa.

Americans NEVER need ask their government permission to do something: Ever.

It is not government's role to tell industry how to run their businesses: Ever.

States did not do a "better job" (policing) telling businesses how to operate in the past. That notion is plain unfounded bullshit. If anything, govt. employees were more ACCOUNTABLE in the past for their actions towards/with businesses.

Kalm, I'm not sure where you were educated, or what type of home/community you were raised, but you have a remarkably distorted view of our government's purpose.

[Bronco]

Real Unemployment Rises to 16.2% in June -- 25.3 Million People
CNSNews ^

Real Unemployment Rises to 16.2% in June -- 25.3 Million People Friday, July 08, 2011 By Matt Cover

(CNSNews.com) – The real unemployment rate rose to 16.2 percent in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported on Friday, marking a return to levels not seen since January 2011.

The “real” unemployment rate is technically a combination of three measures of unemployment: the unemployment rate, the number of people working part-time who want full-time work, and the number of people “marginally attached” to the workforce.

This figure is considered a more complete measure of unemployment because it captures a broader spectrum of those affected by the weak economy. Merely counting those who apply for unemployment benefits as “unemployed” does not fully account for everyone who is out of work or underemployed.

This real unemployment rate – known as the U6 rate – has been climbing since February 2011 when it was at 15.9 percent. Real unemployment peaked in October of 2009 at 17.4 percent, before falling into the 16 percent range for much of 2010.
I
t now appears that the real unemployment rate is returning to its 2010 levels, trending upward after staying slightly below 16 percent from February to May.

The total number of people who were truly unemployed in June was 25.3 million -- the 14.1 million who were unemployed, the 2.7 million who were marginally attached to the workforce and the 8.6 million who were underemployed.

Asked to comment from the golf course Obama said

President Obama On Job Numbers: "We Are Turning The Corner"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ^ | July 8, 2011 | Tom Giusto And Rachel Martin

President Obama praised the latest jobs report today in a visit to a factory in Charlotte, NC, that makes parts for batteries. The company, Celgard, received nearly $50 million in taxpayer money from the Recovery Act in order to expand its production.
“Today is an encouraging day. We learned that the economy actually produced a substantial number of jobs instead of losing a substantial number of jobs,” he said. “We are turning the corner.”
But the president also sounded a cautionary note.


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...

[citdog]

[citdog]

can't forget the hot sauce

[Skjellyfetti]

Hmmmmm. Dooky Chase

[kalm]

As long as their actions can infringe upon the rights of individuals, corporate practices are everyone's business. A long time ago states used to protect the public's interest by holding corporations more accountable.

It's not government's role to play nanny.

A few years back, Sec. of Interior Bruce Babbit, during an interview about enforcement of certain recreational activites in the National Parks, remarked, "Where in the constitution does it say *they* have the right to do that [referring to the activity]?"
In thoughtlessly (candidly) expressing his viewpoint, Babbit underscored the essence of this misunderstanding of our govts role.

Freedoms exist unless Congress/lawmakers specifically regulate them, not vice versa.

Americans NEVER need ask their government permission to do something: Ever.

It is not government's role to tell industry how to run their businesses: Ever.

States did not do a "better job" (policing) telling businesses how to operate in the past. That notion is plain unfounded bullshit. If anything, govt. employees were more ACCOUNTABLE in the past for their actions towards/with businesses.

Kalm, I'm not sure where you were educated, or what type of home/community you were raised, but you have a remarkably distorted view of our government's purpose.

Of the people, by the people, and for the people. We the people...

The word corporation does not exist in the constitution, we were partly fighting a corporatocracy in the Revolutionary War, incorporation in this country was initially created to specifically promote activities that benefited the public good. who owns the court system? Who resolves disputes? If you want to argue degrees of governement intervention and scope that's one thing, but in case you didn't notice, you live in a democracy, filled with other people, who also have rights.

Wow you are dumb sometimes.

[dbackjon]

Public sector jobs are WAY down - that is what is driving the unemployment. You want government to cut jobs, then you complain when all those people hit the job market.

If corporate America would do it's part - hire/spend instead of holding on to massive cash, then we would be fine.

Consumerism is flat because we are in a depression. Why should industry waste $XXXm in faclilities and fixed assets, and another 50% for COGS when govt. taxes/permits/compliance/regs. will suck them for 45% of their remaining revenue?

No...really. That's a serious question. Until our country's representatives pull their heads out into the sunshine and place a CAP on the total percentage of govt. "taxation" (aggregated fees/mitigation/taxes/"penalties") allowed, we'll continue to sink further in debt.

Fix GDP and we'll fix jobs both in the private and public sector.

I PRAY that one day you become a business owner/landlord so that you finally understand my frustration.

Seriously - what is your fix? Allow businesses to build with no restrictions? Not contribute to local/state governments at all? Be allowed to pollute at will?

Remember, most regulations/costs are SELF-INFLICTED because of industries FAILURE to self-regulate. From poor working conditions, rampant pollution, degradation of natural resources, industry NEEDS regulation/mitigation. No way around that.

[AZGrizFan]

57,000 jobs were added in the private sector.
39,000 jobs were lost in the public sector.





http://money.usnews.com/money/careers/a ... n-recovery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So 466k local govt employees have been cut. Despite that, still leaves us with the same # of local govt employees as 2006. Reuters article from yesterday: The # of local and state govt employees is the same as it was in 2006:
"The level of local government employment -- 14.143 million employees -- is the lowest since June 2006. State government employment is the lowest since August 2006."
http://news.yahoo.com/state-local-gover ... 30799.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And from this Feb:
"Largest-ever federal payroll to hit 2.15 million
The era of big government has returned with a vengeance, in the form of the largest federal work force in modern history.

The Obama administration says the government will grow to 2.15 million employees this year, topping 2 million for the first time since President Clinton declared that “the era of big government is over” and joined forces with a Republican-led Congress in the 1990s to pare back the federal work force.

Most of the increases are on the civilian side, which will grow by 153,000 workers, to 1.43 million people, in fiscal 2010.....

......From 1981 through 2008, the civilian work force remained at about 1.1 million to 1.2 million, with a low of 1.07 million in 1986 and a high of more than 1.2 million in 1993 and in 2008. In 2009, the number jumped to 1.28 million.

Including both the civilian and defense sectors, the federal government will employ 2.15 million people in 2010 and 2.11 million in 2011, excluding Postal Service workers."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -of-big-g/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So the # of local and state govt employees is at the same levels it was in 06' and since the fed has added close to a quarter million more employees.

So the 9.2% unemployment can't be blamed on govt cutting jobs. Even if you added a 1/2 million govt jobs now, that would only take the 14.1 million unemployed to 13.6 million, in a workforce of 153 million which would only drop the to about 8.9%.

Blaming the high unemployment rate on local and state govts trimming bloated payrolls = FAIL.

It plain makes my day when analjelly gets his ass handed to him like this.

[dbackjon]

So 466k local govt employees have been cut. Despite that, still leaves us with the same # of local govt employees as 2006. Reuters article from yesterday: The # of local and state govt employees is the same as it was in 2006:
"The level of local government employment -- 14.143 million employees -- is the lowest since June 2006. State government employment is the lowest since August 2006."
http://news.yahoo.com/state-local-gover ... 30799.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And from this Feb:
"Largest-ever federal payroll to hit 2.15 million
The era of big government has returned with a vengeance, in the form of the largest federal work force in modern history.

The Obama administration says the government will grow to 2.15 million employees this year, topping 2 million for the first time since President Clinton declared that “the era of big government is over” and joined forces with a Republican-led Congress in the 1990s to pare back the federal work force.

Most of the increases are on the civilian side, which will grow by 153,000 workers, to 1.43 million people, in fiscal 2010.....

......From 1981 through 2008, the civilian work force remained at about 1.1 million to 1.2 million, with a low of 1.07 million in 1986 and a high of more than 1.2 million in 1993 and in 2008. In 2009, the number jumped to 1.28 million.

Including both the civilian and defense sectors, the federal government will employ 2.15 million people in 2010 and 2.11 million in 2011, excluding Postal Service workers."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -of-big-g/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So the # of local and state govt employees is at the same levels it was in 06' and since the fed has added close to a quarter million more employees.

So the 9.2% unemployment can't be blamed on govt cutting jobs. Even if you added a 1/2 million govt jobs now, that would only take the 14.1 million unemployed to 13.6 million, in a workforce of 153 million which would only drop the to about 8.9%.

Blaming the high unemployment rate on local and state govts trimming bloated payrolls = FAIL.

It plain makes my day when analjelly gets his ass handed to him like this.

Not really - no ass-handing, only in your mind...

[AZGrizFan]

It plain makes my day when analjelly gets his ass handed to him like this.

Not really - no ass-handing, only in your mind...

Really. Ass handing. Game/Set/Match BDKJMU.

[Skjellyfetti]

BDK's article he claims is from this year is from February of 2010.

Want me to post an article from 1999 about how great the economy is?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Public sector jobs are WAY down - that is what is driving the unemployment. You want government to cut jobs, then you complain when all those people hit the job market.

If corporate America would do it's part - hire/spend instead of holding on to massive cash, then we would be fine.

Create a climate that benefits them then..........................its really pretty easy.


I know you lefties dont know jack sh*t about running a business, but you have a business to MAKE MONEY! In the real world if you dont make money you go out of business.

The only place that not making money exists with a spend more than you make, willy nilly attitude is the federal government. This cant last work forever and when it does come crashing down I hope it hurts like a serious mutherfu*ker to the people that have been getting all the entitlements and putting nothing back in.

[AZGrizFan]

BDK's article he claims is from this year is from February of 2010.

Want me to post an article from 1999 about how great the economy is?

Why don't you instead post an article stating how many jobs the Federal Gov't has shed since February of 2010?

[travelinman67]

Asked to comment from the golf course Obama said

President Obama On Job Numbers: "We Are Turning The Corner"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ^ | July 8, 2011 | Tom Giusto And Rachel Martin

President Obama praised the latest jobs report today in a visit to a factory in Charlotte, NC, that makes parts for batteries. The company, Celgard, received nearly $50 million in taxpayer money from the Recovery Act in order to expand its production.
“Today is an encouraging day. We learned that the economy actually produced a substantial number of jobs instead of losing a substantial number of jobs,” he said. “We are turning the corner.”
But the president also sounded a cautionary note.


(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...

"Unless your business is involved with forwarding the Democrats/Progressives "green agenda", the White House will not support/endorse your industry."

LOUD AND CLEAR!

What the Dems can't figure out...

...so long as the WH signals manufacturers the govt. doesn't support/welcome their industry's "non-green agenda" products, industry/investors/shareholders will be reluctant to invest in growth and jobs.

...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand investment/business...

[travelinman67]

It's not government's role to play nanny.

A few years back, Sec. of Interior Bruce Babbit, during an interview about enforcement of certain recreational activites in the National Parks, remarked, "Where in the constitution does it say *they* have the right to do that [referring to the activity]?"
In thoughtlessly (candidly) expressing his viewpoint, Babbit underscored the essence of this misunderstanding of our govts role.

Freedoms exist unless Congress/lawmakers specifically regulate them, not vice versa.

Americans NEVER need ask their government permission to do something: Ever.

It is not government's role to tell industry how to run their businesses: Ever.

States did not do a "better job" (policing) telling businesses how to operate in the past. That notion is plain unfounded bullshit. If anything, govt. employees were more ACCOUNTABLE in the past for their actions towards/with businesses.

Kalm, I'm not sure where you were educated, or what type of home/community you were raised, but you have a remarkably distorted view of our government's purpose.

Of the people, by the people, and for the people. We the people...

The word corporation does not exist in the constitution, we were partly fighting a corporatocracy in the Revolutionary War, incorporation in this country was initially created to specifically promote activities that benefited the public good. who owns the court system? Who resolves disputes? If you want to argue degrees of governement intervention and scope that's one thing, but in case you didn't notice, you live in a democracy, filled with other people, who also have rights.

Wow you are dumb sometimes.

Who do you think owns the businesses/corporations you so hate?

Like a democracy, corporations are either privately or publicly owned, by people.

What right does government have to tell those people how to run their business and what to produce?

Wow, you are dumb sometimes.

[travelinman67]

Consumerism is flat because we are in a depression. Why should industry waste $XXXm in faclilities and fixed assets, and another 50% for COGS when govt. taxes/permits/compliance/regs. will suck them for 45% of their remaining revenue?

No...really. That's a serious question. Until our country's representatives pull their heads out into the sunshine and place a CAP on the total percentage of govt. "taxation" (aggregated fees/mitigation/taxes/"penalties") allowed, we'll continue to sink further in debt.

Fix GDP and we'll fix jobs both in the private and public sector.

I PRAY that one day you become a business owner/landlord so that you finally understand my frustration.

Seriously - what is your fix? Allow businesses to build with no restrictions? Not contribute to local/state governments at all? Be allowed to pollute at will?

Remember, most regulations/costs are SELF-INFLICTED because of industries FAILURE to self-regulate. From poor working conditions, rampant pollution, degradation of natural resources, industry NEEDS regulation/mitigation. No way around that.

Why is govt sending out inspectors to check to see if businesses have their permits posted within 15 ft. of the public entrance?
Why is govt. (not the utility company) coming onto my property unannounced to inspect the number of utility ties I have?
Why has govt. mandated that I provide a stormwater pollution prevention plan ($1,700) because I want to pave my driveway?
Why has govt. "mined" the tax assesor's records to mail my tenants advising them of their "leasee/renter's" rights and how to initiate complaints against me (OH HELL YES THEY DID!!!! Learned of it from my tenant's who thought that was "over the top")?
Why am I required to "educate" my employees on "safety" issues like how to lift a box, how to sweep a floor, how to select/use a ladder...then fine me for failure to educate/document their training?

Each one of these is for the purpose of generating revenue for the govt. agency.

The Nanny Government formula is simple:
Fabricate a percieved threat to the employee/public.
Fabricate voter demand for govt. intervention.
Concoct a law to "protect" the public...with mandatory fees to fund the law's enforcement.
Grow the enforcement agency and add regulatory violations to generate additional punitive revenue.

Say it ain't so, Jon.

[ASUG8]

Seriously - what is your fix? Allow businesses to build with no restrictions? Not contribute to local/state governments at all? Be allowed to pollute at will?

Remember, most regulations/costs are SELF-INFLICTED because of industries FAILURE to self-regulate. From poor working conditions, rampant pollution, degradation of natural resources, industry NEEDS regulation/mitigation. No way around that.

Why is govt sending out inspectors to check to see if businesses have their permits posted within 15 ft. of the public entrance?
Why is govt. (not the utility company) coming onto my property unannounced to inspect the number of utility ties I have?
Why has govt. mandated that I provide a stormwater pollution prevention plan ($1,700) because I want to pave my driveway?
Why has govt. "mined" the tax assesor's records to mail my tenants advising them of their "leasee/renter's" rights and how to initiate complaints against me (OH HELL YES THEY DID!!!! Learned of it from my tenant's who thought that was "over the top")?
Why am I required to "educate" my employees on "safety" issues like how to lift a box, how to sweep a floor, how to select/use a ladder...then fine me for failure to educate/document their training?

Each one of these is for the purpose of generating revenue for the govt. agency.

The Nanny Government formula is simple:
Fabricate a percieved threat to the employee/public.
Fabricate voter demand for govt. intervention.
Concoct a law to "protect" the public...with mandatory fees to fund the law's enforcement.
Grow the enforcement agency and add regulatory violations to generate additional punitive revenue.

Say it ain't so, Jon.

You just made the case for why the US isn't China. Some nanny state stuff I can stomach, much of what you posted, notsomuch.

[travelinman67]

Why is govt sending out inspectors to check to see if businesses have their permits posted within 15 ft. of the public entrance?
Why is govt. (not the utility company) coming onto my property unannounced to inspect the number of utility ties I have?
Why has govt. mandated that I provide a stormwater pollution prevention plan ($1,700) because I want to pave my driveway?
Why has govt. "mined" the tax assesor's records to mail my tenants advising them of their "leasee/renter's" rights and how to initiate complaints against me (OH HELL YES THEY DID!!!! Learned of it from my tenant's who thought that was "over the top")?
Why am I required to "educate" my employees on "safety" issues like how to lift a box, how to sweep a floor, how to select/use a ladder...then fine me for failure to educate/document their training?

Each one of these is for the purpose of generating revenue for the govt. agency.

The Nanny Government formula is simple:
Fabricate a percieved threat to the employee/public.
Fabricate voter demand for govt. intervention.
Concoct a law to "protect" the public...with mandatory fees to fund the law's enforcement.
Grow the enforcement agency and add regulatory violations to generate additional punitive revenue.

Say it ain't so, Jon.

You just made the case for why the US isn't China. Some nanny state stuff I can stomach, much of what you posted, notsomuch.

Govt regulation of fence heights/materials, where documents are to be posted, land/infrastructure extortion proceeds, er....I meant...development mitigation expenses ...

...it's simply spun out of control.

I know Jon blindly defends the lib movement, but how can people look at a bureaucrat like the EPA's Lisa Jackson and not become nauseated by the extreme arrogance and cavalier (if not fascist) manner in which she runs roughshod over American industry? The bureaucrats REALLY don't understand that their intransigent creation and enforcement costs industries BILLIONS day after day, which ultimately results in cascading job loss and lost competitiveness.

Millions of jobs gone.
Millions of lives/careers destroyed.
Millions of families left destitute.
Millions left homeless.

Why is this so hard for the libs to understand?