Pathetic

[GannonFan]

single payer.


No need for my health to compete with corporate profits that way.

Just needs your health to compete with the government's ability/desire to cover your costs and with the incentive then for pharmarceutical companies and medical device manufacturers and any one else involved with medical advances to see a profit worth pursuing with regards to those medical advances.

[Bronco]

Meanwhile in England
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The snapshot study, triggered by a Mail campaign, found staff routinely ignored patients’ calls for help and forgot to check that they had had enough to eat and drink.

Dehydration contributes to the death of more than 800 hospital patients every year.

Figures released by the Office for National Statistics revealed that in 2009, 816 hospital patients were listed on death certificates as having died suffering from dehydration.


Read more:
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[Wedgebuster]

Lessee here, Conk platform for the 2012 election;

1. End Medicare

2. Overturn Roe Vs Wade

3. Institute national ban on gay marriage

4. Go balls out to protect tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of our population

5. Oh yeah, defund planned parenthood

Looks like a landslide win for the Donks regardless of the condition of Baldy's economy by next fall.

[89Hen]

Donk platform for the 2012 election:
























Just might work

[Baldy]

Lessee here, Conk platform for the 2012 election;

1. End Medicare

2. Overturn Roe Vs Wade

3. Institute national ban on gay marriage

4. Go balls out to protect tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of our population

5. Oh yeah, defund planned parenthood

Looks like a landslide win for the Donks regardless of the condition of Baldy's economy by next fall.

Hyperbole.

[AZGrizFan]

Lessee here, Conk platform for the 2012 election;

1. End Medicare

2. Overturn Roe Vs Wade

3. Institute national ban on gay marriage

4. Go balls out to protect tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of our population

5. Oh yeah, defund planned parenthood

Looks like a landslide win for the Donks regardless of the condition of Baldy's economy by next fall.

That might be the platform for the far right 5%....nothing more.

[Wedgebuster]

Donk platform for the 2012 election:
























Just might work

My point exactly.

[houndawg]

Lessee here, Conk platform for the 2012 election;

1. End Medicare

2. Overturn Roe Vs Wade

3. Institute national ban on gay marriage

4. Go balls out to protect tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of our population

5. Oh yeah, defund planned parenthood

Looks like a landslide win for the Donks regardless of the condition of Baldy's economy by next fall.

That might be the platform for the far right 5%....nothing more.

The 5% that calls the shots in the Republican Party.

[AZGrizFan]

That might be the platform for the far right 5%....nothing more.

The 5% that calls the shots in the Republican Party.

Yep. That's why the Republican party has been SOOOOO successful getting those things pushed through, right?

[D1B]

Where the fuck have you been the last ten years, Harold?

I've not seen my doctor in 8 years, except at a fundraiser. I see her NP (Nurse Practitioner) who is fantastic. My doctor just checks blood tests and consults, if needed.

We're a very unhealthy nation (AZ, Tman, Hogan and other fat disgusting drunk fucks here ) with staggeringly high percentages of lifestyle diseases like obesity, cancer and diabetes. We get that shit under control and healthcare costs plummet.





But god forbid the First Lady tries to do something about it, or the government bans trans fat.....the fucking conks here go batshit and cry nanny state, blah blah blah...all so Tman can have his Little Debbies and AZ can dip his freedom fries in pork gravy at breakfast. These are same assholes who would have slammed the government for regulating cigarettes and asbestos.

"They have a right to do business! , blah, blah, Ayn Ran, blah, blah, Ron Reagan......."

Says the fat, drunk libertard who (with his fat, drunk libertard brother) tip the scales at a half a ton combined.

Z, I'll run circles round your fat, soft-serve ass. Am 50 times better shape than you and will challenge you in anything, except in being a total fucking retard- where you obviously reign supreme.

[AZGrizFan]

Says the fat, drunk libertard who (with his fat, drunk libertard brother) tip the scales at a half a ton combined.

Z, I'll run circles round your fat, soft-serve ass. Am 50 times better shape than you and will challenge you in anything, except in being a total fucking retard- where you obviously reign supreme.

Calm down, Orca. Just pointing out that there's fat, drunk, stoned LIBTARDS out there as well.

[D1B]

The 5% that calls the shots in the Republican Party.

Yep. That's why the Republican party has been SOOOOO successful getting those things pushed through, right?

Dumbfuck, you missed the point.

[D1B]

Z, I'll run circles round your fat, soft-serve ass. Am 50 times better shape than you and will challenge you in anything, except in being a total fucking retard- where you obviously reign supreme.

Calm down, Orca. Just pointing out that there's fat, drunk, stoned LIBTARDS out there as well.

Why did you steal my avatar?

[AZGrizFan]

Calm down, Orca. Just pointing out that there's fat, drunk, stoned LIBTARDS out there as well.

Why did you steal my avatar?

I'd sell it back to you for $1000.00 but I know you don't earn that much in 6 weeks on the corner of Pike Street and 1st Avenue.

[Bronco]

Biden: Obama a “Strong and Decisive Great Man” Killing Bin Laden Means “People Will No Longer Confuse Him With Being a Coward” The killing of Osama bin Laden and Paul Ryan’s budget plan have voters taking “a second look” at President Barack Obama heading into 2012, Vice President Joe Biden said Wednesday night in New Hampshire.

“The American people now … have a crystal clear picture of how strong and decisive this president is. And that’s the last piece of the puzzle that had to be put in place for this great man,” Biden said at a party fundraising event in Nashua. “The American people will no longer confuse being contemplative with being a coward.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55742.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[JohnStOnge]

The problem with social security is...wait, isn't social security running a surplus and solvent without any adjustments for another 35 years?

35 years is a heartbeat in historical terms. It is not a sustainable program. To the extent that it has a "surplus" that is the case because it is simply taking from the young and giving to the old. It is not a system whereby you "invest" in it while your young then get the benefit of what you "invested" when you're older. And the ratio of old to young continues to get larger and larger. It is, in the long term, a boondoggle.

Government should not be involved in trying to guarantee the well-being of individuals.

[kalm]

The problem with social security is...wait, isn't social security running a surplus and solvent without any adjustments for another 35 years?

35 years is a heartbeat in historical terms. It is not a sustainable program. To the extent that it has a "surplus" that is the case because it is simply taking from the young and giving to the old. It is not a system whereby you "invest" in it while your young then get the benefit of what you "invested" when you're older. And the ratio of old to young continues to get larger and larger. It is, in the long term, a boondoggle.

Government should not be involved in trying to guarantee the well-being of individuals.

So you're an anarchist then?

[houndawg]

The 5% that calls the shots in the Republican Party.

Yep. That's why the Republican party has been SOOOOO successful getting those things pushed through, right?

No, it's how they've succeeded in keeping wackjob candidates on the ballots for so long.

[JohnStOnge]

[quote]We're all parasites to varying degrees Johnny, including you.[quote]

I don't think that I am a parasite right now. I'm pretty sure I pay more than the average in taxes and that puts me in a relatively small minority because the tax burden distribution is extremely skewed so that a substantial majority of the population pay proportionally very little.

Perhaps I will become one when I am older because I believe in dealing with things as they are. If Social Security and Medicare are available when I become eligible I will take advantage of them. But the difference between me and others is that I would fully support eliminating both social security and medicare even though I have paid into those systems to support those older than me for many years. In fact I would support ending them during the year(s) that I become eligible for them because at some point SOME generation is going to have to be willing to do that.

[kalm]

We're all parasites to varying degrees Johnny, including you.

"provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, secure the blessings of our liberty..."

A necessitous man is not a free man Jon. Why do you hate the constitution?

[houndawg]

"provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, secure the blessings of our liberty..."

A necessitous man is not a free man Jon. Why do you hate the constitution?

He's selfish.

[kalm]

"provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, secure the blessings of our liberty..."

A necessitous man is not a free man Jon. Why do you hate the constitution?

He's selfish.

Conks tend to struggle with the notion that we're all in this together.

[houndawg]

He's selfish.

Conks tend to struggle with the notion that we're all in this together.

It's part of their "socialize the risk, privatize the profit" mentality.

[kalm]

Conks tend to struggle with the notion that we're all in this together.

It's part of their "socialize the risk, privatize the profit" mentality.

So they tend to be cowardly and greedy?

[AZGrizFan]

It's part of their "socialize the risk, privatize the profit" mentality.

So they tend to be cowardly and greedy?

You two having fun stroking each other off to climax?