Did Obama Hide His Father's Communist Ideology?

[Col Hogan]

BTW, Obama cannot be characterized as a communist, since he really hasn't revealed any form of visionary foundation for his policies, nor any specifics that could be described as imposing a homogenization of class and equitable distribution of wealth. Merely pitching "a chicken in every pot" and "can't we all just get along" hardly defines the man (as anything other than a "classic" expitious Donk running for office). Nice guy, but still too young.

(...seems to be this year's theme... )

You must have missed this one,S2433 The Global Poverty Act. Redistribution tax.

WASHINGTON, February 13, 2008 -- Accuracy in Media editor Cliff Kincaid disclosed today that a hugely expensive bill called the "Global Poverty Act," sponsored by Democratic Senator Barack Obama, was quickly passed by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Wednesday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. Kincaid said that the major media's cover-up of the bill, which makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations, demonstrates the media's desire to see Senator Obama elected to the presidency.

The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.
http://www.aim.org/press-release/aim-sa ... l-tax-bill

http://obama.senate.gov/press/071211-obama_hagel_can/

Wonder what your agenda is, since you failed to list any of the REPUBLICAN co-sponsors of the bill...

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... 02433:@@@P

Good idea....maybe not...

COMMUNIST....I think not...

Nice try at a smear......try again....

[travelinman67]

Here's one LABEL that I am 100% POSITIVE applies:

"Humorless" AND "PIOUS"

Hey, you're the religious guy, not me.

Good Morning, Humorless. Today's English lesson will be about understanding "context". Many words have more than one meaning. For example, the work "Pious" has three or more, with seemingly contradictory meanings.

Pious - adjective
1. having or showing a dutiful spirit of reverence for God or an earnest wish to fulfill religious obligations.
2. characterized by a hypocritical concern with virtue or religious devotion; sanctimonious.
3. practiced or used in the name of real or pretended religious motives, or for some ostensibly good object; falsely earnest or sincere: a pious deception.
4. of or pertaining to religious devotion; sacred rather than secular: pious literature.
5. having or showing appropriate respect or regard for parents or others.

Clearly, the last definition could not be the correct usage, in any sentence pertaining to yourself.

Since Religion and/or God was not the topic of discussion, unless you mistakenly thought I had confused you with God (a possibility considering your ethereal levels of self esteem), definitions, one, three, and four are eliminated.

Which leaves definition two as the sole "plausible" meaning (Absent the "...or religious devotion". See Above.). In a connotative sense, the word Pious can often evoke a double entendre purpose, implying the person (you) through their hypocrisy and/or sanctimonious conduct creates themself as a pseudo-diety, further empasizing the hypocrisy of their conduct.

That will conclude today's lesson in understanding context. Please do your homework tonight and be prepared to participate in tomorrow's board discussion: "CitDog; A Lifelong Reconciliation - "My Rejection To The Naval Adademy".


BTW, as an informal observation, a sign of maturity is knowing when to keep quiet, what battles are worth fighting, and not buying into the "schoolyard" belief that the person with the "last word" becomes the victor. This is particularly prudent when your weaknesses have become "your own worst enemy".

(Hang in there Coastal...you opened up a great facet of this debate...having to do as much or more with the Democrat's and U.N.'s agenda as Obama. I don't want to short-change this topic as it is very near and dear to my political activism. I'll lay it all out...the "Global Poverty Act" was nothing more than a "Plan C" that has little chance of passing. I promise it'll be worth the wait.)

[travelinman67]

You must have missed this one,S2433 The Global Poverty Act. Redistribution tax.

WASHINGTON, February 13, 2008 -- Accuracy in Media editor Cliff Kincaid disclosed today that a hugely expensive bill called the "Global Poverty Act," sponsored by Democratic Senator Barack Obama, was quickly passed by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Wednesday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. Kincaid said that the major media's cover-up of the bill, which makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations, demonstrates the media's desire to see Senator Obama elected to the presidency.

The legislation would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.
http://www.aim.org/press-release/aim-sa ... l-tax-bill

http://obama.senate.gov/press/071211-obama_hagel_can/

Wonder what your agenda is, since you failed to list any of the REPUBLICAN co-sponsors of the bill...

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... 02433:@@@P

Good idea....maybe not...

COMMUNIST....I think not...

Nice try at a smear......try again....

Bad breakfast this morning, Col?

It's not Coastal's "agenda". This has been heavily covered in the blogs. It is unequivocally a Dem/Lib proposal. BTW, here's the original sponsors/co-sponsors of:

Senate bill S.2433...

8 Democrat, 2 Republican (if you can call Hagel and Lugar "Republican")

Sponsor
Sen. Barack Obama [D, IL]

Co-Sponsors
Sen. Joseph Biden [D, DE]
Sen. Maria Cantwell [D, WA]
Sen. Christopher Dodd [D, CT]
Sen. Richard Durbin [D, IL]
Sen. Russell Feingold [D, WI]
Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D, CA]
Sen. Charles Hagel [R, NE]
Sen. Richard Lugar [R, IN]
Sen. Robert Menendez [D, NJ]

...and the House bill H.R. 1302

79 Democrat - 6 Republican

Sponsor
Rep. Adam Smith [D, WA-9]

Co-Sponsors
Rep. Spencer Bachus [R, AL-6]
Rep. Brian Baird [D, WA-3]
Rep. Tammy Baldwin [D, WI-2]
Rep. Howard Berman [D, CA-28]
Rep. Earl Blumenauer [D, OR-3]
Rep. Madeleine Bordallo [D, GU-0]
Rep. Leonard Boswell [D, IA-3]
Rep. Bruce Braley [D, IA-1]
Rep. Lois Capps [D, CA-23]
Rep. Russ Carnahan [D, MO-3]
Rep. Julia Carson [D, IN-7]
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver [D, MO-5]
Rep. Steve Cohen [D, TN-9]
Rep. Jim Costa [D, CA-20]
Rep. Joe Courtney [D, CT-2]
Rep. Joseph Crowley [D, NY-7]
Rep. Norman Dicks [D, WA-6]
Rep. Lloyd Doggett [D, TX-25]
Rep. Michael Doyle [D, PA-14]
Rep. Vernon Ehlers [R, MI-3]
Rep. Keith Ellison [D, MN-5]
Rep. Eliot Engel [D, NY-17]
Rep. Anna Eshoo [D, CA-14]
Rep. Sam Farr [D, CA-17]
Rep. Chaka Fattah [D, PA-2]
Rep. Bob Filner [D, CA-51]
Rep. Barney Frank [D, MA-4]
Rep. Raul Grijalva [D, AZ-7]
Rep. Alcee Hastings [D, FL-23]
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin [D, SD-0]
Rep. Brian Higgins [D, NY-27]
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa [D, TX-15]
Rep. Michael Honda [D, CA-15]
Rep. Jay Inslee [D, WA-1]
Rep. Jesse Jackson [D, IL-2]
Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee [D, TX-18]
Rep. William Jefferson [D, LA-2]
Rep. Eddie Johnson [D, TX-30]
Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick [D, MI-13]
Rep. Tom Lantos [D, CA-12]
Rep. Rick Larsen [D, WA-2]
Rep. Barbara Lee [D, CA-9]
Rep. John Lewis [D, GA-5]
Rep. David Loebsack [D, IA-2]
Rep. Zoe Lofgren [D, CA-16]
Rep. Jim Matheson [D, UT-2]
Rep. Michael McCaul [R, TX-10]
Rep. Betty McCollum [D, MN-4]
Rep. James McDermott [D, WA-7]
Rep. James McGovern [D, MA-3]
Rep. Jerry McNerney [D, CA-11]
Rep. Kendrick Meek [D, FL-17]
Rep. Gregory Meeks [D, NY-6]
Rep. R. Bradley Miller [D, NC-13]
Rep. Gwen Moore [D, WI-4]
Rep. James Moran [D, VA-8]
Rep. Jerrold Nadler [D, NY-8]
Rep. Eleanor Norton [D, DC-0]
Rep. James Oberstar [D, MN-8]
Rep. Edward Pastor [D, AZ-4]
Rep. Donald Payne [D, NJ-10]
Rep. David Price [D, NC-4]
Rep. Dave Reichert [R, WA-8]
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R, FL-18]
Rep. Bobby Rush [D, IL-1]
Rep. Linda Sanchez [D, CA-39]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D, IL-9]
Rep. Adam Schiff [D, CA-29]
Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D, PA-13]
Rep. José Serrano [D, NY-16]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R, CT-4]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D, CA-27]
Rep. Heath Shuler [D, NC-11]
Rep. Albio Sires [D, NJ-13]
Rep. Fortney Stark [D, CA-13]
Rep. Ellen Tauscher [D, CA-10]
Rep. Tom Udall [D, NM-3]
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen [D, MD-8]
Rep. Maxine Waters [D, CA-35]
Rep. Diane Watson [D, CA-33]
Rep. Henry Waxman [D, CA-30]
Rep. Robert Wexler [D, FL-19]
Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D, CA-6]
Rep. David Wu [D, OR-1]

I'll argue my case this afternnon. Obama's placement as "Sponsor" is merely that; "Product Placement" by his "distributor" to improve his marketability (he's gotta at least appear to have "Global' foreign policy...other than increasing the number of daily flights from Dulles to the Virgin Islands...). Have a good day, Col.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Hey, you're the religious guy, not me.

Good Morning, Humorless. Today's English lesson will be about understanding "context". Many words have more than one meaning. For example, the work "Pious" has three or more, with seemingly contradictory meanings.

Pious - adjective
1. having or showing a dutiful spirit of reverence for God or an earnest wish to fulfill religious obligations.
2. characterized by a hypocritical concern with virtue or religious devotion; sanctimonious.
3. practiced or used in the name of real or pretended religious motives, or for some ostensibly good object; falsely earnest or sincere: a pious deception.
4. of or pertaining to religious devotion; sacred rather than secular: pious literature.
5. having or showing appropriate respect or regard for parents or others.

Clearly, the last definition could not be the correct usage, in any sentence pertaining to yourself.

Since Religion and/or God was not the topic of discussion, unless you mistakenly thought I had confused you with God (a possibility considering your ethereal levels of self esteem), definitions, one, three, and four are eliminated.

Which leaves definition two as the sole "plausible" meaning (Absent the "...or religious devotion". See Above.). In a connotative sense, the word Pious can often evoke a double entendre purpose, implying the person (you) through their hypocrisy and/or sanctimonious conduct creates themself as a pseudo-diety, further empasizing the hypocrisy of their conduct.

That will conclude today's lesson in understanding context. Please do your homework tonight and be prepared to participate in tomorrow's board discussion: "CitDog; A Lifelong Reconciliation - "My Rejection To The Naval Adademy".


BTW, as an informal observation, a sign of maturity is knowing when to keep quiet, what battles are worth fighting, and not buying into the "schoolyard" belief that the person with the "last word" becomes the victor. This is particularly prudent when your weaknesses have become "your own worst enemy".

(Hang in there Coastal...you opened up a great facet of this debate...having to do as much or more with the Democrat's and U.N.'s agenda as Obama. I don't want to short-change this topic as it is very near and dear to my political activism. I'll lay it all out...the "Global Poverty Act" was nothing more than a "Plan C" that has little chance of passing. I promise it'll be worth the wait.)

Boy, you walked into that one. You see, it's called a "pun", &… Oh, never mind.

BTW, as an informal observation, a sign of maturity is knowing when to keep quiet, what battles are worth fighting, and not buying into the "schoolyard" belief that the person with the "last word" becomes the victor. This is particularly prudent when your weaknesses have become "your own worst enemy".

The hypocrisy here is overwhelming, as you keep answering my "last words" with longer & longer & longer responses.

[Col Hogan]

Wonder what your agenda is, since you failed to list any of the REPUBLICAN co-sponsors of the bill...

http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... 02433:@@@P

Good idea....maybe not...

COMMUNIST....I think not...

Nice try at a smear......try again....

Bad breakfast this morning, Col?

It's not Coastal's "agenda". This has been heavily covered in the blogs. It is unequivocally a Dem/Lib proposal. BTW, here's the original sponsors/co-sponsors of:

Senate bill S.2433...

8 Democrat, 2 Republican (if you can call Hagel and Lugar "Republican")

Sponsor
Sen. Barack Obama [D, IL]

Co-Sponsors
Sen. Joseph Biden [D, DE]
Sen. Maria Cantwell [D, WA]
Sen. Christopher Dodd [D, CT]
Sen. Richard Durbin [D, IL]
Sen. Russell Feingold [D, WI]
Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D, CA]
Sen. Charles Hagel [R, NE]
Sen. Richard Lugar [R, IN]
Sen. Robert Menendez [D, NJ]

...and the House bill H.R. 1302

79 Democrat - 6 Republican

Sponsor
Rep. Adam Smith [D, WA-9]

Co-Sponsors
Rep. Spencer Bachus [R, AL-6]
Rep. Brian Baird [D, WA-3]
Rep. Tammy Baldwin [D, WI-2]
Rep. Howard Berman [D, CA-28]
Rep. Earl Blumenauer [D, OR-3]
Rep. Madeleine Bordallo [D, GU-0]
Rep. Leonard Boswell [D, IA-3]
Rep. Bruce Braley [D, IA-1]
Rep. Lois Capps [D, CA-23]
Rep. Russ Carnahan [D, MO-3]
Rep. Julia Carson [D, IN-7]
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver [D, MO-5]
Rep. Steve Cohen [D, TN-9]
Rep. Jim Costa [D, CA-20]
Rep. Joe Courtney [D, CT-2]
Rep. Joseph Crowley [D, NY-7]
Rep. Norman Dicks [D, WA-6]
Rep. Lloyd Doggett [D, TX-25]
Rep. Michael Doyle [D, PA-14]
Rep. Vernon Ehlers [R, MI-3]
Rep. Keith Ellison [D, MN-5]
Rep. Eliot Engel [D, NY-17]
Rep. Anna Eshoo [D, CA-14]
Rep. Sam Farr [D, CA-17]
Rep. Chaka Fattah [D, PA-2]
Rep. Bob Filner [D, CA-51]
Rep. Barney Frank [D, MA-4]
Rep. Raul Grijalva [D, AZ-7]
Rep. Alcee Hastings [D, FL-23]
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin [D, SD-0]
Rep. Brian Higgins [D, NY-27]
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa [D, TX-15]
Rep. Michael Honda [D, CA-15]
Rep. Jay Inslee [D, WA-1]
Rep. Jesse Jackson [D, IL-2]
Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee [D, TX-18]
Rep. William Jefferson [D, LA-2]
Rep. Eddie Johnson [D, TX-30]
Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick [D, MI-13]
Rep. Tom Lantos [D, CA-12]
Rep. Rick Larsen [D, WA-2]
Rep. Barbara Lee [D, CA-9]
Rep. John Lewis [D, GA-5]
Rep. David Loebsack [D, IA-2]
Rep. Zoe Lofgren [D, CA-16]
Rep. Jim Matheson [D, UT-2]
Rep. Michael McCaul [R, TX-10]
Rep. Betty McCollum [D, MN-4]
Rep. James McDermott [D, WA-7]
Rep. James McGovern [D, MA-3]
Rep. Jerry McNerney [D, CA-11]
Rep. Kendrick Meek [D, FL-17]
Rep. Gregory Meeks [D, NY-6]
Rep. R. Bradley Miller [D, NC-13]
Rep. Gwen Moore [D, WI-4]
Rep. James Moran [D, VA-8]
Rep. Jerrold Nadler [D, NY-8]
Rep. Eleanor Norton [D, DC-0]
Rep. James Oberstar [D, MN-8]
Rep. Edward Pastor [D, AZ-4]
Rep. Donald Payne [D, NJ-10]
Rep. David Price [D, NC-4]
Rep. Dave Reichert [R, WA-8]
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R, FL-18]
Rep. Bobby Rush [D, IL-1]
Rep. Linda Sanchez [D, CA-39]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D, IL-9]
Rep. Adam Schiff [D, CA-29]
Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D, PA-13]
Rep. José Serrano [D, NY-16]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R, CT-4]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D, CA-27]
Rep. Heath Shuler [D, NC-11]
Rep. Albio Sires [D, NJ-13]
Rep. Fortney Stark [D, CA-13]
Rep. Ellen Tauscher [D, CA-10]
Rep. Tom Udall [D, NM-3]
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen [D, MD-8]
Rep. Maxine Waters [D, CA-35]
Rep. Diane Watson [D, CA-33]
Rep. Henry Waxman [D, CA-30]
Rep. Robert Wexler [D, FL-19]
Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D, CA-6]
Rep. David Wu [D, OR-1]

I'll argue my case this afternnon. Obama's placement as "Sponsor" is merely that; "Product Placement" by his "distributor" to improve his marketability (he's gotta at least appear to have "Global' foreign policy...other than increasing the number of daily flights from Dulles to the Virgin Islands...). Have a good day, Col.

I read the entire list of sponsors...I went to Thomas.gov and read the levislation...

Is it a Dem/Lib proposal...absolutely...I think I said it wasn't a great idea...

But the "agenda" comment comes from the consistant charge of COMMUNIST...

It's not....

I wish if you wish to challenge Obama, do it honestly...on ideas...not with red-herring charges of COMMUNISM...that's so 50's...

[travelinman67]

I read the entire list of sponsors...I went to Thomas.gov and read the levislation...

Is it a Dem/Lib proposal...absolutely...I think I said it wasn't a great idea...

But the "agenda" comment comes from the consistant charge of COMMUNIST...

It's not....

I wish if you wish to challenge Obama, do it honestly...on ideas...not with red-herring charges of COMMUNISM...that's so 50's...

Yeah, I suppose so...

A more contemporary smear would be, posting photos of him in unusual dress or action with labels implying incompetence or corrupt virtue...

...like such as, "coke-head partier"...



...or, like such as spokesperson for a mob/party boss...



...or, like such as an entertainer...



...or, like such as simply, a male chauvinist horn-dog who objectifies women...



...just a joke, Col. I think Obama is 'better' than MOST of the self-serving folks on the Hill, and even voted for him in the Primary...but will be voting for McCain in the Gen. Election. If you REALLY want to witness an offensive case of smear, tune into The Letterman Show. They basically do a "Ten Bashes Against McCain" every night. I watched a couple of them, and have chosen to turn Letterman for the remainder of this year.

(BTW, I'm drafting out the info on the Global Poverty Act, but will probably have to break it up in 3 or 4 presentations...there's been tons of new information published on this since Bali, which in effect codified and "published" the U.N.'s agenda, and moreso, several key actions took place during the first two weeks of February that illuminate the timing of the Senate vote. And now, with the reversal of the science on GW, several key Govt. players are beginning to hedge their bets, which is further complicating the "scheme".)

[Mvemjsunpx]

Bad breakfast this morning, Col?

It's not Coastal's "agenda". This has been heavily covered in the blogs. It is unequivocally a Dem/Lib proposal. BTW, here's the original sponsors/co-sponsors of:

Senate bill S.2433...

8 Democrat, 2 Republican (if you can call Hagel and Lugar "Republican")

Sponsor
Sen. Barack Obama [D, IL]

Co-Sponsors
Sen. Joseph Biden [D, DE]
Sen. Maria Cantwell [D, WA]
Sen. Christopher Dodd [D, CT]
Sen. Richard Durbin [D, IL]
Sen. Russell Feingold [D, WI]
Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D, CA]
Sen. Charles Hagel [R, NE]
Sen. Richard Lugar [R, IN]
Sen. Robert Menendez [D, NJ]

...and the House bill H.R. 1302

79 Democrat - 6 Republican

Sponsor
Rep. Adam Smith [D, WA-9]

Co-Sponsors
Rep. Spencer Bachus [R, AL-6]
Rep. Brian Baird [D, WA-3]
Rep. Tammy Baldwin [D, WI-2]
Rep. Howard Berman [D, CA-28]
Rep. Earl Blumenauer [D, OR-3]
Rep. Madeleine Bordallo [D, GU-0]
Rep. Leonard Boswell [D, IA-3]
Rep. Bruce Braley [D, IA-1]
Rep. Lois Capps [D, CA-23]
Rep. Russ Carnahan [D, MO-3]
Rep. Julia Carson [D, IN-7]
Rep. Emanuel Cleaver [D, MO-5]
Rep. Steve Cohen [D, TN-9]
Rep. Jim Costa [D, CA-20]
Rep. Joe Courtney [D, CT-2]
Rep. Joseph Crowley [D, NY-7]
Rep. Norman Dicks [D, WA-6]
Rep. Lloyd Doggett [D, TX-25]
Rep. Michael Doyle [D, PA-14]
Rep. Vernon Ehlers [R, MI-3]
Rep. Keith Ellison [D, MN-5]
Rep. Eliot Engel [D, NY-17]
Rep. Anna Eshoo [D, CA-14]
Rep. Sam Farr [D, CA-17]
Rep. Chaka Fattah [D, PA-2]
Rep. Bob Filner [D, CA-51]
Rep. Barney Frank [D, MA-4]
Rep. Raul Grijalva [D, AZ-7]
Rep. Alcee Hastings [D, FL-23]
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin [D, SD-0]
Rep. Brian Higgins [D, NY-27]
Rep. Rubén Hinojosa [D, TX-15]
Rep. Michael Honda [D, CA-15]
Rep. Jay Inslee [D, WA-1]
Rep. Jesse Jackson [D, IL-2]
Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee [D, TX-18]
Rep. William Jefferson [D, LA-2]
Rep. Eddie Johnson [D, TX-30]
Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick [D, MI-13]
Rep. Tom Lantos [D, CA-12]
Rep. Rick Larsen [D, WA-2]
Rep. Barbara Lee [D, CA-9]
Rep. John Lewis [D, GA-5]
Rep. David Loebsack [D, IA-2]
Rep. Zoe Lofgren [D, CA-16]
Rep. Jim Matheson [D, UT-2]
Rep. Michael McCaul [R, TX-10]
Rep. Betty McCollum [D, MN-4]
Rep. James McDermott [D, WA-7]
Rep. James McGovern [D, MA-3]
Rep. Jerry McNerney [D, CA-11]
Rep. Kendrick Meek [D, FL-17]
Rep. Gregory Meeks [D, NY-6]
Rep. R. Bradley Miller [D, NC-13]
Rep. Gwen Moore [D, WI-4]
Rep. James Moran [D, VA-8]
Rep. Jerrold Nadler [D, NY-8]
Rep. Eleanor Norton [D, DC-0]
Rep. James Oberstar [D, MN-8]
Rep. Edward Pastor [D, AZ-4]
Rep. Donald Payne [D, NJ-10]
Rep. David Price [D, NC-4]
Rep. Dave Reichert [R, WA-8]
Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen [R, FL-18]
Rep. Bobby Rush [D, IL-1]
Rep. Linda Sanchez [D, CA-39]
Rep. Janice Schakowsky [D, IL-9]
Rep. Adam Schiff [D, CA-29]
Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D, PA-13]
Rep. José Serrano [D, NY-16]
Rep. Christopher Shays [R, CT-4]
Rep. Brad Sherman [D, CA-27]
Rep. Heath Shuler [D, NC-11]
Rep. Albio Sires [D, NJ-13]
Rep. Fortney Stark [D, CA-13]
Rep. Ellen Tauscher [D, CA-10]
Rep. Tom Udall [D, NM-3]
Rep. Christopher Van Hollen [D, MD-8]
Rep. Maxine Waters [D, CA-35]
Rep. Diane Watson [D, CA-33]
Rep. Henry Waxman [D, CA-30]
Rep. Robert Wexler [D, FL-19]
Rep. Lynn Woolsey [D, CA-6]
Rep. David Wu [D, OR-1]

I'll argue my case this afternnon. Obama's placement as "Sponsor" is merely that; "Product Placement" by his "distributor" to improve his marketability (he's gotta at least appear to have "Global' foreign policy...other than increasing the number of daily flights from Dulles to the Virgin Islands...). Have a good day, Col.

I read the entire list of sponsors...I went to Thomas.gov and read the levislation...

Is it a Dem/Lib proposal...absolutely...I think I said it wasn't a great idea...

But the "agenda" comment comes from the consistant charge of COMMUNIST...

It's not....

I wish if you wish to challenge Obama, do it honestly...on ideas...not with red-herring charges of COMMUNISM...that's so 50's...

But why do that when it's so much easier to post some random wacko conspiracy theory blog?

And, BTW, is there a record on this site for largest quote nest? 'Cause I think we might be setting it!

[Col Hogan]

I read the entire list of sponsors...I went to Thomas.gov and read the levislation...

Is it a Dem/Lib proposal...absolutely...I think I said it wasn't a great idea...

But the "agenda" comment comes from the consistant charge of COMMUNIST...

It's not....

I wish if you wish to challenge Obama, do it honestly...on ideas...not with red-herring charges of COMMUNISM...that's so 50's...

Yeah, I suppose so...

A more contemporary smear would be, posting photos of him in unusual dress or action with labels implying incompetence or corrupt virtue...

...like such as, "coke-head partier"...



...or, like such as spokesperson for a mob/party boss...



...or, like such as an entertainer...



...or, like such as simply, a male chauvinist horn-dog who objectifies women...



...just a joke, Col. I think Obama is 'better' than MOST of the self-serving folks on the Hill, and even voted for him in the Primary...but will be voting for McCain in the Gen. Election. If you REALLY want to witness an offensive case of smear, tune into The Letterman Show. They basically do a "Ten Bashes Against McCain" every night. I watched a couple of them, and have chosen to turn Letterman for the remainder of this year.

(BTW, I'm drafting out the info on the Global Poverty Act, but will probably have to break it up in 3 or 4 presentations...there's been tons of new information published on this since Bali, which in effect codified and "published" the U.N.'s agenda, and moreso, several key actions took place during the first two weeks of February that illuminate the timing of the Senate vote. And now, with the reversal of the science on GW, several key Govt. players are beginning to hedge their bets, which is further complicating the "scheme".)

I can only stay up late on weekends...so Letterman is pretty foreign to me these days (I know, youtube has his stuff....I don't take the time... )

I'll wager, between just you and me, say a nice (not excellent) bottle of winners choice that this "legislation" never even makes it to a final vote...it reads like election year "fluff"

[travelinman67]

I can only stay up late on weekends...so Letterman is pretty foreign to me these days (I know, youtube has his stuff....I don't take the time... )

I'll wager, between just you and me, say a nice (not excellent) bottle of winners choice that this "legislation" never even makes it to a final vote...it reads like election year "fluff"

Agreed. Like I said, this was a political stunt for Obama's benefit. I read the analysis of HR 1302 and it's more ambiguous than a gold digger on her honeymoon.

...won't go anywhere...but the bet's still on. I won't mind losing. Hell, I'll even pay up before the bill dies...