Ruby Ridge-style standoff? Bundy says he is prepared to Die

[Chizzang]

I think there's plenty of despicable-ness to go around here.

Bundy might be a freeloader, but to me it is pretty alarming how some folks can express their obvious glee when the state goes full SWAT on citizens.

If it was a black drug dealer selling crack in Atlanta I think some of these statists would be singing a different tune.

Disclaimer: I think black dudes ought to be able to sell all the drugs they want.

The Glee and hilarity from the Left mirrors that from the Right when Hippies get maced for sitting on a college campus holding hands... FOX News told their audience to laugh at the stupid Hippie kids and thus MSNBC is getting a kick out of the Ranchers against SWAT angle

we've all got our pet issues - but - I will admit I'm enjoying all the well crafted "OUTRAGE"

[travelinman67]

Yes, the right-wing militias are terrorists. Harry Reid had that right

With all due respect, Dback...

...go fuck yourself.

Harry Reid is the second most dangerous threat to our nation.

Were he to be tried for treason and hung next month, it'd be one week too long.

[kalm]

Yes, the right-wing militias are terrorists. Harry Reid had that right

With all due respect, Dback...

...go fuck yourself.

Harry Reid is the second most dangerous threat to our nation.

Were he to be tried for treason and hung next month, it'd be one week too long.

Reid's a douchebag, but….

[CID1990]

I think there's plenty of despicable-ness to go around here.

Bundy might be a freeloader, but to me it is pretty alarming how some folks can express their obvious glee when the state goes full SWAT on citizens.

If it was a black drug dealer selling crack in Atlanta I think some of these statists would be singing a different tune.

Disclaimer: I think black dudes ought to be able to sell all the drugs they want.

The Glee and hilarity from the Left mirrors that from the Right when Hippies get maced for sitting on a college campus holding hands... FOX News told their audience to laugh at the stupid Hippie kids and thus MSNBC is getting a kick out of the Ranchers against SWAT angle

we've all got our pet issues - but - I will admit I'm enjoying all the well crafted "OUTRAGE"

I dont entirely disagree

In terms of the outrageousness of being manhandled by the state there isnt a difference between mace and a gun

but from time to time I hear liberals applauding the possibility that some of these militia types would get the Waco treatment

i rarely to never heard that type of wishful thinking when it came to the occupy people

but maybe thats just because the militia types bring guns and the hippies bring um odor I guess

[houndawg]

The Glee and hilarity from the Left mirrors that from the Right when Hippies get maced for sitting on a college campus holding hands... FOX News told their audience to laugh at the stupid Hippie kids and thus MSNBC is getting a kick out of the Ranchers against SWAT angle

we've all got our pet issues - but - I will admit I'm enjoying all the well crafted "OUTRAGE"

I dont entirely disagree

In terms of the outrageousness of being manhandled by the state there isnt a difference between mace and a gun

but from time to time I hear liberals applauding the possibility that some of these militia types would get the Waco treatment

i rarely to never heard that type of wishful thinking when it came to the occupy people

but maybe thats just because the militia types bring guns and the hippies bring um odor I guess

Really? That kind of talk was everywhere, I'm surprised you didn't hear it.

[houndawg]

Yes, the right-wing militias are terrorists. Harry Reid had that right

With all due respect, Dback...

...go **** yourself.

Harry Reid is the second most dangerous threat to our nation.

Were he to be tried for treason and hung next month, it'd be one week too long.

You seem a little peevish today.

[dbackjon]

Why?


Many states do a very shitty job of managing their land. Arizona has a piss-poor record. Nevada does as well.


You Easterner don't have a clue - most of us Westerners enjoy and use the public lands.

So you would be ok with AZ land going from about 1/2 fed govt owned to over 80% govt owned?

Federal Government (including Reservations, Military Bases, etc) already owns 74% of Arizona. The state owns another 14%

Try again, BDKWRONG

[Baldy]

I dont entirely disagree

In terms of the outrageousness of being manhandled by the state there isnt a difference between mace and a gun

but from time to time I hear liberals applauding the possibility that some of these militia types would get the Waco treatment

i rarely to never heard that type of wishful thinking when it came to the occupy people

but maybe thats just because the militia types bring guns and the hippies bring um odor I guess

Really? That kind of talk was everywhere, I'm surprised you didn't hear it.

Then you shouldn't have any problem finding plenty of links supporting that wild accusation.
Since that kind of talk was...you know...everywhere.

[BDKJMU]

So you would be ok with AZ land going from about 1/2 fed govt owned to over 80% govt owned?

Federal Government (including Reservations, Military Bases, etc) already owns 74% of Arizona. The state owns another 14%

Try again, BDKWRONG

Wrong, DUMBAZZJohn



"Nevada 84.5%
Alaska 69.1%
Utah 57.4%
Oregon 53.1%
Idaho 50.2%
Arizona 48.1%
California 45.3%
Wyoming 42.3%
New Mexico 41.8%
Colorado 36.6%

Notable is that all these states are in the West (except Alaska, which strictly speaking is also a western state, albeit northwestern). Also notable is the contrast between the highest and the lowest percentages of federal land ownership. The US government owns a whopping 84.5% of Nevada, but only a puny 0.4% of Rhode Island and Connecticut. The lowest-percentage states are mainly in the East, but some are also in the Midwest and in the South:

Connecticut 0.4%
Rhode Island 0.4%
Iowa 0.8%
New York 0.8%
Maine 1.1%
Kansas 1.2%
Nebraska 1.4%
Alabama 1.6%
Ohio 1.7%
Illinois 1.8%"
http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/291-fe ... -in-the-us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Baldy]

The Glee and hilarity from the Left mirrors that from the Right when Hippies get maced for sitting on a college campus holding hands... FOX News told their audience to laugh at the stupid Hippie kids and thus MSNBC is getting a kick out of the Ranchers against SWAT angle

we've all got our pet issues - but - I will admit I'm enjoying all the well crafted "OUTRAGE"

I dont entirely disagree

In terms of the outrageousness of being manhandled by the state there isnt a difference between mace and a gun

but from time to time I hear liberals applauding the possibility that some of these militia types would get the Waco treatment

i rarely to never heard that type of wishful thinking when it came to the occupy people

but maybe thats just because the militia types bring guns and the hippies bring um odor I guess

The difference is the OWS losers have a history of violence, rape, actual domestic terrorism, millions in property damage, among many other crimes. The Bundy crowd, not so much.

[Chizzang]

I dont entirely disagree

In terms of the outrageousness of being manhandled by the state there isnt a difference between mace and a gun

but from time to time I hear liberals applauding the possibility that some of these militia types would get the Waco treatment

i rarely to never heard that type of wishful thinking when it came to the occupy people

but maybe thats just because the militia types bring guns and the hippies bring um odor I guess

The difference is the OWS losers have a history of violence, rape, actual domestic terrorism, millions in property damage, among many other crimes. The Bundy crowd, not so much.

So we're actually debating the quality of the fringe...?

Yeeeeeaaah Okay

And Baldy you're asking for "links" when you made a wild claim about the hard working Right providing all kinds of Health Care fixes - ALL DENIED by the Left - and you provided NO LINK

I'm watching you Mr...

[dbackjon]

Hey dumbass That map is worthless since it doesn't include Reservations

30% of Arizona is Rez.


You are wrong, as usual

[Baldy]

The difference is the OWS losers have a history of violence, rape, actual domestic terrorism, millions in property damage, among many other crimes. The Bundy crowd, not so much.

So we're actually debating the quality of the fringe...?

Yeeeeeaaah Okay

And Baldy you're asking for "links" when you made a wild claim about the hard working Right providing all kinds of Health Care fixes - ALL DENIED by the Left - and you provided NO LINK

I'm watching you Mr...

Debating the fringe? There is no debate.
As I said, the OWS losers have a distinct history of violence, rape etc. The Bundy crowd, not so much.

I gave specific examples of legislation, proposals, etc. The only thing Corndog did was make another idiotic blanket statement.

[travelinman67]

With all due respect, Dback...

...go **** yourself.

Harry Reid is the second most dangerous threat to our nation.

Were he to be tried for treason and hung next month, it'd be one week too long.

You seem a little peevish today.

Fuck you too.

[BDKJMU]

Hey dumbass That map is worthless since it doesn't include Reservations

30% of Arizona is Rez.


You are wrong, as usual

No DUMBAZZ, reading comprehension obviously isn't taught at NAU. I said FEDERALLY GOVT OWNED land. Just like the article said, 48%. As far as the reservations go, the tribe or individual whose land is held in trust is the owner.

[houndawg]

So we're actually debating the quality of the fringe...?

Yeeeeeaaah Okay

And Baldy you're asking for "links" when you made a wild claim about the hard working Right providing all kinds of Health Care fixes - ALL DENIED by the Left - and you provided NO LINK

I'm watching you Mr...

Debating the fringe? There is no debate.
As I said, the OWS losers have a distinct history of violence, rape etc. The Bundy crowd, not so much.

I gave specific examples of legislation, proposals, etc. The only thing Corndog did was make another idiotic blanket statement.

This is what you get folks, when you live in a State that doesn't have restrictions on inbreeding. Google any of the wackjob radio hosts you slavishly idolize, Ballsack, and listen to them call for law and order and sing the praises of free speech zones.

[houndawg]

You seem a little peevish today.

**** you too.

thinking about that waterfront property?

[kalm]

Hey dumbass That map is worthless since it doesn't include Reservations

30% of Arizona is Rez.


You are wrong, as usual

No DUMBAZZ, reading comprehension obviously isn't taught at NAU. I said FEDERALLY GOVT OWNED land. Just like the article said, 48%. As far as the reservations go, the tribe or individual whose land is held in trust is the owner.

Aren't indian tribes confederated?

[Ibanez]

Federal Government (including Reservations, Military Bases, etc) already owns 74% of Arizona. The state owns another 14%

Try again, BDKWRONG

Wrong, DUMBAZZJohn



"Nevada 84.5%
Alaska 69.1%
Utah 57.4%
Oregon 53.1%
Idaho 50.2%
Arizona 48.1%
California 45.3%
Wyoming 42.3%
New Mexico 41.8%
Colorado 36.6%

Notable is that all these states are in the West (except Alaska, which strictly speaking is also a western state, albeit northwestern). Also notable is the contrast between the highest and the lowest percentages of federal land ownership. The US government owns a whopping 84.5% of Nevada, but only a puny 0.4% of Rhode Island and Connecticut. The lowest-percentage states are mainly in the East, but some are also in the Midwest and in the South:

Connecticut 0.4%
Rhode Island 0.4%
Iowa 0.8%
New York 0.8%
Maine 1.1%
Kansas 1.2%
Nebraska 1.4%
Alabama 1.6%
Ohio 1.7%
Illinois 1.8%"
http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/291-fe ... -in-the-us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's 10 years old. A lot has changed in 10 years.

[dbackjon]

Hey dumbass That map is worthless since it doesn't include Reservations

30% of Arizona is Rez.


You are wrong, as usual

No DUMBAZZ, reading comprehension obviously isn't taught at NAU. I said FEDERALLY GOVT OWNED land. Just like the article said, 48%. As far as the reservations go, the tribe or individual whose land is held in trust is the owner.

Keep digging dipshitz. The land is held in trust by the Fed government

Arizona's % of private land is similar to Nevada's

[BlueHen86]

Hey dumbass That map is worthless since it doesn't include Reservations

30% of Arizona is Rez.


You are wrong, as usual

No DUMBAZZ, reading comprehension obviously isn't taught at NAU. I said FEDERALLY GOVT OWNED land. Just like the article said, 48%. As far as the reservations go, the tribe or individual whose land is held in trust is the owner.

Link?

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Today I quit recognizing federal land.

It's our land not theirs and I will do what I want when I want on it.

I am done letting these guys run things, try and stop me but be prepared for the consequences.

[houndawg]

Today I quit recognizing federal land.

It's our land not theirs and I will do what I want when I want on it.

I am done letting these guys run things, try and stop me but be prepared for the consequences.

You go girl!

[Chizzang]

This thread has some SPICE to it... Lots of name calling and finger pointing


(all very exciting)

[AZGrizFan]

And Bundy, along with his supporters, are the "terrorists". I weep for my country.

In the end, PETA is a political organization. As long as this regime is in power, they can slaughter cats and dogs on the portico of the White House and you will not hear one peep.

Yes, the right-wing militias are terrorists. Harry Reid had that right

And what are the left wing militia?