Burn the witch!

[CAA Flagship]

I'm not disputing that. I agree.
And I will say that the GI Bill may be a necessary recruitment tool. Much like a college building a new fitness center or adding a football team.
But I don't think an accurate ROI has ever been conducted for the taxpayer. Even the HuffPuss author stated so.

kalm may have taken some liberties with his original statement.

I'm not sure it's possible to accurately calculate the ROI. There are too many intangibles.

Hence, my claim that kalm may have overstated a bit.

[kalm]

Great, great piece on why Hillary should be toast from a former Clinton White House counselor (knows where the bodies are buried?). It speaks to the elitism of both establishments and the malfeasance of the media. Solid journalism....

There’s a name for the bipartisan consensus of party elites: neoliberalism. It is an inconvenient name for many reasons but mostly because it seems odd that the worldview of the Republican elite would be an ideology with the root word ‘liberal’ in its name but it is true, nonetheless. and may even shed a little light on the open, bitter breach between GOP elites and the party base. Democrats stayed loyal longer to their elites for two reasons. One is their love of two very talented politicians, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, whose charm and verbal dexterity masked deep differences with the base. The other is their fear of Republicans.

I often talk to Democrats who don’t know Obama chose not to raise the minimum wage as president even though he had the votes for it; that he was willing to cut Medicare and Social Security and chose not to prosecute Wall Street crimes or pursue ethics reforms in government. They don’t know he dropped the public option or the aid he promised homeowners victimized by mortgage lenders. They don’t know and don’t want to know. Their affection for Bill and Barack — and their fear of Republicans — run too deep.

2. Hillary Clinton has neither their deft personal touch nor protean verbal skills. When she tries to distract the base or paper over its differences with elites, voters see through her, even if, in their hearts, they don’t want to. In Michigan she tried to smear Sanders as a foe of the auto bailout. Before that she sent Chelsea and Bill out to say Bernie would kill Medicare. Each time she ended up only hurting herself. She has tried to co-opt Sanders’ positions on global trade, climate change, military adventurism, a living wage and universal health care.

It’s always too little, too late. Voters sense she’s just moving pawns on a chess board in part because she can never explain her change of heart and often doesn’t even try. She switched horses on global trade in a blog post, on the Keystone pipeline at a grammar school event. In a recent debate she left fracking to the GOP governors who covered themselves in glory on Obamacare, as if it were a states’ rights issue. With her Super PAC (and hers and Bill’s breathtaking haul of $153 million in mostly corporate speaking fees), she is the living avatar of pay to play politics. She shouldn’t be the Democratic nominee for president because she doesn’t even know it’s wrong........

One way it helps is just by sharing her ideology. This is especially true of younger journalists at establishment venues like the Times and NBC or at web sites like Vox. These are mostly very bright people who see the world as Hillary does. (I’d call it neoliberalism 2.0 but it’s just like the Beta version.) They are Democrats first for cultural issues. They identify with elites, even know a few power couples and view the current corrupt rules of the game as laws of nature. It’s one reason why not one of them saw any of this coming.

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/09/it_shou ... n_miracle/

[Ivytalk]

Yes, it is an interesting piece. Wonder if Bill Clinton called his former counselor to bitch about it!

[Pwns]

(NSFW)

Look at this picture without flinching and win prize.

http://www.theonion.com/article/hillary ... bid--52516

[Ivytalk]

(NSFW)

Look at this picture without flinching and win prize.

http://www.theonion.com/article/hillary ... bid--52516

Dammit, I STILL love The Onion!

[BDKJMU]

I can't believe she would openly admit the donk war on coal. Could she be that dumb to think that is going to play well in any coal producing states (including OH, PA, and VA)?

"We Are Going To Put A Lot Of Coal Miners & Coal Companies Out Of Business"
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksIXqxpQNt0[/youtube]

[BDKJMU]

Clinton: We “Didn’t Lose A Single Person” In Libya...
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KSJWcRS0_0[/youtube]

[Ibanez]

Clintsux has won the South (Florida and North Carolina). She'll get the nomination. For sure.


Edit: Clintsux has won Ohio.

[BDKJMU]

FL (83.6% reporting)
H. Clinton 64.5% 138 delegates
B. Sanders 33.2% 52 delegates

NC (25.7% reporting)
H. Clinton 56.1% 64 delegates
B. Sanders 39.8% 25 delegates

IL (16.9% reporting)
H. Clinton 53.7% 20 delegates
B. Sanders 45.4%

OH (9.4% reporting)
H. Clinton 63.5% 85 delegates
B. Sanders 35.3% 29

MO (1.8% reporting)
H. Clinton 57.6% 12 delegates
B. Sanders 39.6%

How in the world do they call states with only 1.6% and 9.4% reporting.

[Ivytalk]

FL (83.6% reporting)
H. Clinton 64.5% 138 delegates
B. Sanders 33.2% 52 delegates

NC (25.7% reporting)
H. Clinton 56.1% 64 delegates
B. Sanders 39.8% 25 delegates

IL (16.9% reporting)
H. Clinton 53.7% 20 delegates
B. Sanders 45.4%

OH (9.4% reporting)
H. Clinton 63.5% 85 delegates
B. Sanders 35.3% 29

MO (1.8% reporting)
H. Clinton 57.6% 12 delegates
B. Sanders 39.6%

How in the world do they call states with only 1.6% and 9.4% reporting.

Because they're smarter than you!

[SDHornet]

hilldog destroyed bernie today. Normally I say he is done, but now I just feel sad for the poor old bastard.

[Skjellyfetti]

How in the world do they call states with only 1.6% and 9.4% reporting.

Exit polls.

[CID1990]

hilldog destroyed bernie today. Normally I say he is done, but now I just feel sad for the poor old bastard.

Just wait until all his pinhead supporters start turning 20 and become adjunct professors

That's when the Democratic Party will have its Trump moment

[YoUDeeMan]

hilldog destroyed bernie today. Normally I say he is done, but now I just feel sad for the poor old bastard.

Just wait until all his pinhead supporters start turning 20 and become adjunct professors

That's when the Democratic Party will have its Trump moment

[BDKJMU]

Pledged delegate count:
Clinton: 1112
Sanders: 806

[GannonFan]

Pledged delegate count:
Clinton: 1112
Sanders: 806

Barring an indictment it's over. And regardless what happens I think Obama gives a pardon on the way out in January, whether she's the President-elect or not.

[CAA Flagship]

Pledged delegate count:
Clinton: 1112
Sanders: 806

Barring an indictment it's over. And regardless what happens I think Obama gives a pardon on the way out in January, whether she's the President-elect or not.

I have no problem if Obama pardons her as long as she no longer holds an elected office.


Burn the witch!!!!!!

[GannonFan]

Barring an indictment it's over. And regardless what happens I think Obama gives a pardon on the way out in January, whether she's the President-elect or not.

I have no problem if Obama pardons her as long as she no longer holds an elected office.


Burn the witch!!!!!!

Eh, well, seeing how the indictment is likely never to come, the only thing that will stop Hillary from holding an elected office again are the voters this November (Bernie's done after yesterday) or the voters in 2020 if she wins this November and chooses to run again. The pardon will come in January just to make sure there's no issue later on (and I'm sure Obama will like to be able to lord that over her in the years ahead).

[BDKJMU]

I have no problem if Obama pardons her as long as she no longer holds an elected office.


Burn the witch!!!!!!

Eh, well, seeing how the indictment is likely never to come, the only thing that will stop Hillary from holding an elected office again are the voters this November (Bernie's done after yesterday) or the voters in 2020 if she wins this November and chooses to run again. The pardon will come in January just to make sure there's no issue later on (and I'm sure Obama will like to be able to lord that over her in the years ahead).

Wouldn't there have to be at least an indictment to have a pardon?

[GannonFan]

Eh, well, seeing how the indictment is likely never to come, the only thing that will stop Hillary from holding an elected office again are the voters this November (Bernie's done after yesterday) or the voters in 2020 if she wins this November and chooses to run again. The pardon will come in January just to make sure there's no issue later on (and I'm sure Obama will like to be able to lord that over her in the years ahead).

Wouldn't there have to be at least an indictment to have a pardon?

Nixon was never indicted - the pardon for him came before the indictments could be issued. The trick would be, though, that for Hillary to accept the pardon she would basically be admitting guilt - the SCOTUS has ruled previously that accepting a pardon includes accepting guilt over the thing being pardoned. Doesn't make any real legal significance, but certainly would be a significant admission that I doubt she would make easily.

[BDKJMU]

[youtube]https://youtube.com/watch?v=17EOM3RTD1Y[/youtube]

[Ivytalk]

[youtube]https://youtube.com/watch?v=17EOM3RTD1Y[/youtube]

Now, that's funny!

[Ibanez]

Pledged delegate count:
Clinton: 1112
Sanders: 806

Barring an indictment it's over. And regardless what happens I think Obama gives a pardon on the way out in January, whether she's the President-elect or not.

How can you be pardoned without a conviction?

[Ibanez]

Wouldn't there have to be at least an indictment to have a pardon?

Nixon was never indicted - the pardon for him came before the indictments could be issued. The trick would be, though, that for Hillary to accept the pardon she would basically be admitting guilt - the SCOTUS has ruled previously that accepting a pardon includes accepting guilt over the thing being pardoned. Doesn't make any real legal significance, but certainly would be a significant admission that I doubt she would make easily.

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!??!

[HI54UNI]

[youtube]https://youtube.com/watch?v=17EOM3RTD1Y[/youtube]