This shat just went next level

[YoUDeeMan]

We do nothing for 2 reasons:

1. Its none of our business
2. This country doesnt have the balls to fight a real war with Russia and we sure as hell dont have a President that can lead fighting men, he cant even make a 12ft jumpshot with any regularity.

Seal the Mexican border.

I fail to see why we need to be involved. Sometimes, America needs to stay in its own yard.

Exactly. None of our citizens were killed...

Oh wait..

A diplomat of ours was killed a while back...still waiting for sanctions against the bad guys.

[Ibanez]

And then did Reagan do as follow up??

Crushed Russia's will and ended the Cold War.

Next

Soviet Union. What a joke.

[Ibanez]

Exactly. None of our citizens were killed...

Oh wait..

A diplomat of ours was killed a while back...still waiting for sanctions against the bad guys.

I heard Glenn Beck this morning say America needs to stop getting involved in everyone's business and pushing it's ideology down their throats. He went on to say we should lead by example is making America "free for speech, religion, "lifestyle" etc...? I thought that was an interesting choice of words and I hated having to agree with him.

[CID1990]

Who was it recently claiming that RT was a pretty respectable news source?

Was it klam or SK? Somebody fess up.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/264 ... ines-fault" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ASUG8]

Who was it recently claiming that RT was a pretty respectable news source?

Was it klam or SK? Somebody fess up.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/264 ... ines-fault" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sounds like Russia has their own version of Fox or CNN.

[CAA Flagship]

Exactly. None of our citizens were killed...

Oh wait..

A diplomat of ours was killed a while back...still waiting for sanctions against the bad guys.

What difference does that make?

[Ibanez]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ounds.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spandos, you are falling down on the job.

The Conspiracy Theories:

1) Was whoever shot down MH17 actually trying to assassinate Vladimir Putin?

2)The Illuminati carried out the attack as part of its longstanding masterplan to trigger a third world war and thus establish a New World Order

3)MH17 was shot down 17 years to the day since its maiden voyage

4)'Pristine' passports prove it was all a hoax

5)Could MH17 actually be MH370

[Cap'n Cat]

And then did Reagan do as follow up??

Crushed Russia's will and ended the Cold War.

Next

LMAO!!!!!





Soviet Union fucking imploded by itself. Gorbachev gets more credit outside in world circles than here with the homer Reagan ball-bathers like T and Grover Norquist......

Just more Reagan Myth bullshit.

[YoUDeeMan]

More analagous to us shooting down Iranian Air 655

Apples to Oranges. The year before the USS Stark had been attacked in the Gulf, hit by 2 Exocet anti ship missiles fired from an Iraqi Mirage. A few months before the Samuel B Roberts hit an Iraqi mine. That day one of the Vincennes hilos was fired upon by by Iranian speedboats. Vincennes made numerous attempts to contact the Iranian Airbus to no avail. Still screwed up, but it wasn't shoot 1st and ask questions later like yesterday. The rebels/Russians reportedly made no attempts to
identify/contact contact the Malaysian airliner before firing.

So wait, errant shots from our guys are excused during an armed conflict, because, you know, we're the good guys.

But if another country involved in an armed conflict accidentally kills people, we are supposed to go ape sh*t and arm their opponents while invoking sanctions, because, well, they are the bad guys?


Are you fvcking serious?

[YoUDeeMan]

Putin is a man and BrObama is his bitch for eternity.

WINNER, the first redneck to blame this on Obama........

WINNER (not a surprise), kkklean's the first racist to weigh in on a comment about Obama and quickly turn it into something it's not...blame.

[YoUDeeMan]

A diplomat of ours was killed a while back...still waiting for sanctions against the bad guys.

What difference does that make?

Duh.

Apparently some folks want us to put more sanctions on Russia...and to arm the Ukraine government...all because some rebels shot down a plane because of an error.

But we don't do a damned thing when people actually try, and succeed, to attack and kill our diplomats. And we don't want anyone putting sanctions on the good 'ol US of Freakin' A when we kill kids and civilians due to errors.

We have killed FAR more than 300 civilians recently. Many times over. And the clowns we arm and support in countries all over the world have also killed far more than 300 civilians.

The hypocrisy is way too funny and idiots on both side of the aisle seem to be incapable of recognizing those facts.

[CID1990]

What difference does that make?

Duh.

Apparently some folks want us to put more sanctions on Russia...and to arm the Ukraine government...all because some rebels shot down a plane because of an error.

But we don't do a damned thing when people actually try, and succeed, to attack and kill our diplomats. And we don't want anyone putting sanctions on the good 'ol US of Freakin' A when we kill kids and civilians due to errors.

We have killed FAR more than 300 civilians recently. Many times over. And the clowns we arm and support in countries all over the world have also killed far more than 300 civilians.

The hypocrisy is way too funny and idiots on both side of the aisle seem to be incapable of recognizing those facts.

There's people who want us to get involved, sanction Russia, and arm the Ukraine.

I just don't think we've heard calls for that on this forum. I know I don't want to see that, but I would like to see a little more "we're on this" out of the people we should be seeing it from. My own employer's spox tweeted as her final tweet yesterday (as the world is blowing up) an article about fashion sense among smart women. There's an asleep at the switch quality to all of this on our part.

There just seems to be a lack of seriousness about all of this. And it looks like there were Americans on this plane- and to me, that is consideration #1 here. We need to show that we aren't going to tolerate it, and all of the hand wringing and moral relativism over how we killed Indians or nuked Japan is irrelevant. There are things we can do to show a little leadership on this that do not involve arming the Ukrainians or getting belligerent.

[dbackjon]

Face it Jon, you walked into that one face first.

Actually I'm laughing at all you idiots to think the Reagan actually did something productive

What did he solve other than making America broke now?

Russia is still a threat. the Eastern European freedom came from the people I need labor unions know those things that you guys hate


Reagan foisted off the failed economic policy

His actions led directly to 9/11 the current immigration crisis because of his Iran-Contra and other illegal dealings in Central America


United States would've been much better off had Reagan never been elected Pres.


It is sad and pathetic that people actually think he did a good job

[Skjellyfetti]

There's people who want us to get involved, sanction Russia, and arm the Ukraine.

I just don't think we've heard calls for that on this forum. I know I don't want to see that, but I would like to see a little more "we're on this" out of the people we should be seeing it from. My own employer's spox tweeted as her final tweet yesterday (as the world is blowing up) an article about fashion sense among smart women. There's an asleep at the switch quality to all of this on our part.

There just seems to be a lack of seriousness about all of this. And it looks like there were Americans on this plane- and to me, that is consideration #1 here. We need to show that we aren't going to tolerate it, and all of the hand wringing and moral relativism over how we killed Indians or nuked Japan is irrelevant. There are things we can do to show a little leadership on this that do not involve arming the Ukrainians or getting belligerent.

Care to be more specific?

[dbackjon]

Exactly. None of our citizens were killed...

Oh wait..

A diplomat of ours was killed a while back...still waiting for sanctions against the bad guys.

U Mean the ones that we captured?

[dbackjon]

It turns out that there were over 100 aids researchers activists etc. on their way to a world AIDS conference in Australia

[Grizalltheway]

A diplomat of ours was killed a while back...still waiting for sanctions against the bad guys.

U Mean the ones that we captured?

Nah. They don't count.

[CID1990]

There's people who want us to get involved, sanction Russia, and arm the Ukraine.

I just don't think we've heard calls for that on this forum. I know I don't want to see that, but I would like to see a little more "we're on this" out of the people we should be seeing it from. My own employer's spox tweeted as her final tweet yesterday (as the world is blowing up) an article about fashion sense among smart women. There's an asleep at the switch quality to all of this on our part.

There just seems to be a lack of seriousness about all of this. And it looks like there were Americans on this plane- and to me, that is consideration #1 here. We need to show that we aren't going to tolerate it, and all of the hand wringing and moral relativism over how we killed Indians or nuked Japan is irrelevant. There are things we can do to show a little leadership on this that do not involve arming the Ukrainians or getting belligerent.

Care to be more specific?

Not right at this moment, no.

[Cap'n Cat]

U Mean the ones that we captured?

Nah. They don't count.

The US does not kill diplomats or oust sitting presidents - even democratically elected ones. Never has.

[Ibanez]

Face it Jon, you walked into that one face first.

Actually I'm laughing at all you idiots to think the Reagan actually did something productive

What did he solve other than making America broke now?

Russia is still a threat. the Eastern European freedom came from the people I need labor unions know those things that you guys hate


Reagan foisted off the failed economic policy

His actions led directly to 9/11 the current immigration crisis because of his Iran-Contra and other illegal dealings in Central America


United States would've been much better off had Reagan never been elected Pres.


It is sad and pathetic that people actually think he did a good job

This is how I imagine Jon looks as he types a diatribe like that. Blaming Reagan for 9/11? You also have to blame Clinton. He could've had Osama killed in the 90s.

[kalm]

Who was it recently claiming that RT was a pretty respectable news source?

Was it klam or SK? Somebody fess up.

http://theweek.com/speedreads/index/264 ... ines-fault" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sounds like Russia has their own version of Fox or CNN.

It was me that said RT was respectable.

(Unlike CID, I can actually admit when I'm wrong )

[Cap'n Cat]

Actually I'm laughing at all you idiots to think the Reagan actually did something productive

What did he solve other than making America broke now?

Russia is still a threat. the Eastern European freedom came from the people I need labor unions know those things that you guys hate


Reagan foisted off the failed economic policy

His actions led directly to 9/11 the current immigration crisis because of his Iran-Contra and other illegal dealings in Central America


United States would've been much better off had Reagan never been elected Pres.


It is sad and pathetic that people actually think he did a good job

This is how I imagine Jon looks as he types a diatribe like that. Blaming Reagan for 9/11? You also have to blame Clinton. He could've had Osama killed in the 90s.

If you and your Conk henchman ever deigned to read something other than the Limbaugh Letter or PalinPAC.org, you'd learn that Jon is positively correct about Reagan.

This thing about ending the Cold War is the cutest, most precious little falsehood you klowns push almost daily.

Do some research, Bucky.....

[andy7171]

Actually I'm laughing at all you idiots to think the Reagan actually did something productive

What did he solve other than making America broke now?

Russia is still a threat. the Eastern European freedom came from the people I need labor unions know those things that you guys hate


Reagan foisted off the failed economic policy

His actions led directly to 9/11 the current immigration crisis because of his Iran-Contra and other illegal dealings in Central America


United States would've been much better off had Reagan never been elected Pres.


It is sad and pathetic that people actually think he did a good job

This is how I imagine Jon looks as he types a diatribe like that. Blaming Reagan for 9/11? You also have to blame Clinton. He could've had Osama killed in the 90s.

Not cock hungry enough.

[93henfan]

This is how I imagine Jon looks as he types a diatribe like that. Blaming Reagan for 9/11? You also have to blame Clinton. He could've had Osama killed in the 90s.

Not cock hungry enough.

That's disgusting, Andy!

[clenz]

Actually I'm laughing at all you idiots to think the Reagan actually did something productive

What did he solve other than making America broke now?

Russia is still a threat. the Eastern European freedom came from the people I need labor unions know those things that you guys hate


Reagan foisted off the failed economic policy

His actions led directly to 9/11 the current immigration crisis because of his Iran-Contra and other illegal dealings in Central America


United States would've been much better off had Reagan never been elected Pres.


It is sad and pathetic that people actually think he did a good job

This is how I imagine Jon looks as he types a diatribe like that. Blaming Reagan for 9/11? You also have to blame Clinton. He could've had Osama killed in the 90s.

I pretty much stopped reading this thread because it got too "involved" in politics, and I just avoid that shit because partisan fuck bags don't actually talk politics...they lecture their views.


Anyway...

Did he really say 9/11 was Regan's fault?