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[Chizzang]

Exactly. It was God's Will.


Which is another stupid, arrogant comment. How can we possibly know it's God's will? Or even assume that we understand God's will? Using God-given reasoning, how can a benevolent God allow such terrible things to occur? It's usually tragedies that people say that to "console" a grieving person. "Oh it's God's will that 5 year old got cancer and died a slow, agonizing death." STFU! It seems irrational to suggest God's plan for a child was to only be here for 5 years and then die of a rare cancer. It seems irrational to suggest that the plan for my Uncle Charles was to be killed by a drunk driver as he walked home one night in 1966. If that's the plan God had - that's pure evil.

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I think there are some contradictions in my post. Whatever.

Maybe God's plan is far more reaching than you think. What occurs to one person can affect many others. Maybe God's plan is to "test" those in the blast zone.
For example, maybe God wanted your uncle at that time. In the process of taking him, he affected the life of the drunk driver and his family (possibly others) that were given a chance to alter their lives because of his actions. Maybe he never had a drink again, or maybe he ignored the signs and drank himself to death. Maybe his children learned a life lesson that they carried on throughout their lives. Maybe a hard worker got the break he needed through a promotion after the drunk driver lost his job because of it. Lots of possibilities, lots of degrees, lots of girls in bikinis.

Maybe that's not what God does at all...
Maybe everything is exactly as it appears
and why wouldn't things be as they appear..?

If things are as they appear
Then God doesn't play favorites and hand out cancer here and there
Maybe common sense is Gods only gift and everything else is a crap shoot

However if you really do believe what you posted above
And God is involved in every choice and every event, then abortion is in fact "Gods Will"

[CAA Flagship]

Maybe God's plan is far more reaching than you think. What occurs to one person can affect many others. Maybe God's plan is to "test" those in the blast zone.
For example, maybe God wanted your uncle at that time. In the process of taking him, he affected the life of the drunk driver and his family (possibly others) that were given a chance to alter their lives because of his actions. Maybe he never had a drink again, or maybe he ignored the signs and drank himself to death. Maybe his children learned a life lesson that they carried on throughout their lives. Maybe a hard worker got the break he needed through a promotion after the drunk driver lost his job because of it. Lots of possibilities, lots of degrees, lots of girls in bikinis.

Maybe that's not what God does at all...
Maybe everything is exactly as it appears
and why wouldn't things be as they appear..?

If things are as they appear
Then God doesn't play favorites and hand out cancer here and there
Maybe common sense is Gods only gift and everything else is a crap shoot

However if you really do believe what you posted above
And God is involved in every choice and every event, then abortion is in fact "Gods Will"

Who said I believe that. I said "maybe" a bunch of times. Just offering one of many, many, possibilities.
Yeah, things could be exactly as they appear, and with no ulterior motive. Nobody knows for certain.
Just trying to say that it is difficult to rule in favor, or out of favor, of anything.

[89Hen]

Some of you folks need to go to church and find out what is really being taught about God's will.

[kalm]

Some of you folks need to go to church and find out what is really being taught about God's will.

I’m headed to church right now. Gonna flyfish the Cle Elum River. I’ll report back.

[Chizzang]

Some of you folks need to go to church and find out what is really being taught about God's will.

I assume you attend one church..?
Maybe two

But please go on, I'm fascinated and what is "really being taught" about Gods will

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

No, you are missing the point. Maybe his number was up and he had to die somehow. Maybe God's plan was to take him in a way where he could "test" a targeted group of people. I'm just throwing out the possible reasons of why bad things happen.

We just don't know.

My mom likes to think he was taken so that he wouldn't die in Vietnam. It was before the draft but he had a desire to serve in the military.

It was because we wasn't armed and chose not to protect himself.

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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Some of you folks need to go to church and find out what is really being taught about God's will.

Yep.

Just like the uneducated anti gunners...... Educating everyone on something they know nothing about.

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[Chizzang]

Maybe that's not what God does at all...
Maybe everything is exactly as it appears
and why wouldn't things be as they appear..?

If things are as they appear
Then God doesn't play favorites and hand out cancer here and there
Maybe common sense is Gods only gift and everything else is a crap shoot

However if you really do believe what you posted above
And God is involved in every choice and every event, then abortion is in fact "Gods Will"

Who said I believe that. I said "maybe" a bunch of times. Just offering one of many, many, possibilities.
Yeah, things could be exactly as they appear, and with no ulterior motive. Nobody knows for certain.
Just trying to say that it is difficult to rule in favor, or out of favor, of anything.

So.. "Things could be exactly as they appear"
or they could all be part of a complex scheme of hidden meaning and confusing outcomes
all designed to punish some and liberate others and alienate billions

Sounds neat...
sign me up for some of that horse sh!t

[89Hen]

Some of you folks need to go to church and find out what is really being taught about God's will.

I assume you attend one church..?
Maybe two

But please go on, I'm fascinated and what is "really being taught" about Gods will

I was being sincere, but I know you're not so...

IMO so many people who don't like organized religion don't go, probably never really did, but pretend to know what it's really about because they see a story about somebody trying to impose their religion on somebody else and it' basically turns them off. I don't blame them.

I do only attend RC churches regularly, but over the course of a year I probably go to a dozen different ones.

[CAA Flagship]

Some of you folks need to go to church and find out what is really being taught about God's will.

I’m headed to church right now. Gonna flyfish the Cle Elum River. I’ll report back.

[89Hen]

Some of you folks need to go to church and find out what is really being taught about God's will.

I’m headed to church right now. Gonna flyfish the Cle Elum River. I’ll report back.

If that's where you find peace and your God....

[Chizzang]

I assume you attend one church..?
Maybe two

But please go on, I'm fascinated and what is "really being taught" about Gods will

I was being sincere, but I know you're not so...

IMO so many people who don't like organized religion don't go, probably never really did, but pretend to know what it's really about because they see a story about somebody trying to impose their religion on somebody else and it' basically turns them off. I don't blame them.

I do only attend RC churches regularly, but over the course of a year I probably go to a dozen different ones.

I was an acolyte at an Episcopal Church for years

[89Hen]

I was an acolyte at an Episcopal Church for years

Yeah but you guys go to church every blue moon. Catholic Lite.

[Winterborn]

I was an acolyte at an Episcopal Church for years

Yeah but you guys go to church every blue moon. Catholic Lite.

Our version of Catholic Lite was the "Holiday Family's". They only went to church on Christmas and Easter.

[Chizzang]

I was an acolyte at an Episcopal Church for years

Yeah but you guys go to church every blue moon. Catholic Lite.

As an acolyte you go to church every Sunday...
of course minus the Latin

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Some of you folks need to go to church and find out what is really being taught about God's will.

I’m headed to church right now. Gonna flyfish the Cle Elum River. I’ll report back.

You and I belong to slightly different sects of the same church.

An evening service:




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[89Hen]

Yeah but you guys go to church every blue moon. Catholic Lite.

Our version of Catholic Lite was the "Holiday Family's". They only went to church on Christmas and Easter.

We have plenty of them too, but that's their choice and it doesn't bother me. The big issue is that if you only go on C&E you think you have to be dressed up (I usually wear jeans in cold weather and shorts in warm), it's always beyond capacity and the masses usually are longer. I can see why they're turned off.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Yeah but you guys go to church every blue moon. Catholic Lite.

Our version of Catholic Lite was the "Holiday Family's". They only went to church on Christmas and Easter.

Chreaster Catholics. That was my family growing up.

[89Hen]

Yeah but you guys go to church every blue moon. Catholic Lite.

As an acolyte you go to church every Sunday...
of course minus the Latin

See, I learned something. I'd never heard of an Episcopal who goes every week.

BTW, I only know half the mass in Latin. We did walk into a 1pm at a church we go occasionally and scanning the crowd I quickly realized we were at the Spanish mass. Obviously I could follow along with the mass, but the homily was a different story.

[GannonFan]

Yeah but you guys go to church every blue moon. Catholic Lite.

As an acolyte you go to church every Sunday...
of course minus the Latin

Not really a lot of Latin in Catholic churches today. Vatican II was more than 50 years ago now.

[Ibanez]

As an acolyte you go to church every Sunday...
of course minus the Latin

Not really a lot of Latin in Catholic churches today. Vatican II was more than 50 years ago now.

Nope. There are churches in Charleston that still perform a Latin Mass (not every Sunday)

http://stellamarischurch.org/

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[GannonFan]

Not really a lot of Latin in Catholic churches today. Vatican II was more than 50 years ago now.

Nope. There are churches in Charleston that still perform a Latin Mass (not every Sunday)

http://stellamarischurch.org/

Didn't mean to imply that there isn't Latin, of course there's some, but it's really pretty infrequent compared to services done in the language of the congregants. Heck, the only Latin Mass around me is downtown in Philly. The church next parish over from ours has a Vietnamese Mass every Sunday - I'd argue there's much more of this than any Latin masses.

[Ibanez]

Nope. There are churches in Charleston that still perform a Latin Mass (not every Sunday)

http://stellamarischurch.org/

Didn't mean to imply that there isn't Latin, of course there's some, but it's really pretty infrequent compared to services done in the language of the congregants. Heck, the only Latin Mass around me is downtown in Philly. The church next parish over from ours has a Vietnamese Mass every Sunday - I'd argue there's much more of this than any Latin masses.

No - I know you didn't imply. My apologies.

[Ibanez]

What kind of person takes the time to make that meme?