Sorry for not remembering your every word.CID1990 wrote:Sure they can.kalm wrote:
Business dealings can't be related to conspiracy/collusion?
Try to keep up, Jelly - I think I hashed this out somewhere around page 112 or so
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Well there's one little problem therekalm wrote:Sorry for not remembering your every word.CID1990 wrote:
Sure they can.
Try to keep up, Jelly - I think I hashed this out somewhere around page 112 or so
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So perhaps there's a connection between Trump's banking and conspiacy? Doesn't the Wilbur Ross/Bank of Cyprus/Deutche Bank angle look a little suspicious as well?
Thanks. Still seems like there's some smoke around it.CID1990 wrote:Well there's one little problem therekalm wrote:
Sorry for not remembering your every word.
So perhaps there's a connection between Trump's banking and conspiacy? Doesn't the Wilbur Ross/Bank of Cyprus/Deutche Bank angle look a little suspicious as well?
You might want to go check out Bloomberg's "correction" on the Deutsche Bank subpoena
I'll wait
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There's some smoke around chemtrails tookalm wrote:Thanks. Still seems like there's some smoke around it.CID1990 wrote:
Well there's one little problem there
You might want to go check out Bloomberg's "correction" on the Deutsche Bank subpoena
I'll wait
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So it's still a witch hunt? Nothing to see here? Okee dokee.CID1990 wrote:There's some smoke around chemtrails tookalm wrote:
Thanks. Still seems like there's some smoke around it.
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I didn't say it was a witch hunt, and I never have. I've said the special prosecutor isn't investigating collusion between the Trumps and the Russianskalm wrote:So it's still a witch hunt? Nothing to see here? Okee dokee.CID1990 wrote:
There's some smoke around chemtrails too
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I hear ya. I'm just a rube from a directional school so it all sounds suspicious. BTW, Jimmy Dore isn't the only lib that questions the veracity of the Russian investigation....CID1990 wrote:I didn't say it was a witch hunt, and I never have. I've said the special prosecutor isn't investigating collusion between the Trumps and the Russianskalm wrote:
So it's still a witch hunt? Nothing to see here? Okee dokee.
If you're going to join in on this one, you'll have to pay better attention. I know that can be hard with the hundreds of posts in this thread
The special prosecutors (as special prosecutors do) has uncovered Manafort's shady financial dealings, and he's chasing down that avenue. But nothing about it suggests a conspiracy between the Russians and the Trump campaign. In fact, there is plenty of evidence of people not reporting their activities with various governments, and there is plenty of evidence of income not being reported to the IRS.
But wishful thinking isn't evidence. There's nothing to chase down - so Mueller is going after the things that we actually DO have evidence of. And sure- there's a hope that those things will lead to the Holy Grail... (and there's actually more evidence for the actual existence of the real Holy Grail, BTW) ... there's going to be a lot of disappointment in the future for people who believe the Trumpers conspired with the Russians to throw the election- they're going to join hands with the 9/11 truthers and the moon landing deniers in solidarity for years to come
But...But.. The Russians!!!!!!CAA Flagship wrote:If you dig deep enough into a complex action in a world with complex laws, chances are very good that you'll find something wrong. It's like watching a football play in slow motion. 2 holding penalties, 1 illegal procedure, 1 pass interference/holding on just about every play.
CID1990 wrote:I didn't say it was a witch hunt, and I never have. I've said the special prosecutor isn't investigating collusion between the Trumps and the Russianskalm wrote:
So it's still a witch hunt? Nothing to see here? Okee dokee.
If you're going to join in on this one, you'll have to pay better attention. I know that can be hard with the hundreds of posts in this thread
The special prosecutors (as special prosecutors do) has uncovered Manafort's shady financial dealings, and he's chasing down that avenue. But nothing about it suggests a conspiracy between the Russians and the Trump campaign. In fact, there is plenty of evidence of people not reporting their activities with various governments, and there is plenty of evidence of income not being reported to the IRS.
But wishful thinking isn't evidence. There's nothing to chase down - so Mueller is going after the things that we actually DO have evidence of. And sure- there's a hope that those things will lead to the Holy Grail... (and there's actually more evidence for the actual existence of the real Holy Grail, BTW) ... there's going to be a lot of disappointment in the future for people who believe the Trumpers conspired with the Russians to throw the election- they're going to join hands with the 9/11 truthers and the moon landing deniers in solidarity for years to come
Agreed - we openly advocate and cheer in hundreds of non-American elections every year, and other countries do the same with our's as well and always have. It's not that big of a world, everyone interacts everyday.houndawg wrote:CID1990 wrote:
I didn't say it was a witch hunt, and I never have. I've said the special prosecutor isn't investigating collusion between the Trumps and the Russians
If you're going to join in on this one, you'll have to pay better attention. I know that can be hard with the hundreds of posts in this thread
The special prosecutors (as special prosecutors do) has uncovered Manafort's shady financial dealings, and he's chasing down that avenue. But nothing about it suggests a conspiracy between the Russians and the Trump campaign. In fact, there is plenty of evidence of people not reporting their activities with various governments, and there is plenty of evidence of income not being reported to the IRS.
But wishful thinking isn't evidence. There's nothing to chase down - so Mueller is going after the things that we actually DO have evidence of. And sure- there's a hope that those things will lead to the Holy Grail... (and there's actually more evidence for the actual existence of the real Holy Grail, BTW) ... there's going to be a lot of disappointment in the future for people who believe the Trumpers conspired with the Russians to throw the election- they're going to join hands with the 9/11 truthers and the moon landing deniers in solidarity for years to come
I don't care if he conspired with them in the election of not. Show me a national election anywhere on the planet that both we and the Russians don't interfere in. Its Business as Usual. With any luck it helps bring down the system..
What about money laundering for the Russian mob? Are we going to be disappointed there too?
My own department threw some money at Bibi’s last election opponents in Israel, BTWGannonFan wrote:Agreed - we openly advocate and cheer in hundreds of non-American elections every year, and other countries do the same with our's as well and always have. It's not that big of a world, everyone interacts everyday.houndawg wrote:
I don't care if he conspired with them in the election of not. Show me a national election anywhere on the planet that both we and the Russians don't interfere in. Its Business as Usual. With any luck it helps bring down the system..
What about money laundering for the Russian mob? Are we going to be disappointed there too?
Now, if there's money laundering or actual illegal things going on, well, that's something different.
Oh - trigger warning - Russians!!!!!
We give them billions and what do those fvcking ingrates do? Piss it away on shit like free healthcare and education....CID1990 wrote:My own department threw some money at Bibi’s last election opponents in Israel, BTWGannonFan wrote:
Agreed - we openly advocate and cheer in hundreds of non-American elections every year, and other countries do the same with our's as well and always have. It's not that big of a world, everyone interacts everyday.
Now, if there's money laundering or actual illegal things going on, well, that's something different.
Oh - trigger warning - Russians!!!!!
The question now is, where is jelly.Friday was one of the most embarrassing days for the U.S. media in quite a long time. The humiliation orgy was kicked off by CNN, with MSNBC and CBS close behind, with countless pundits, commentators and operatives joining the party throughout the day. By the end of the day, it was clear that several of the nation’s largest and most influential news outlets had spread an explosive but completely false news story to millions of people, while refusing to provide any explanation of how it happened.
The spectacle began on Friday morning at 11:00 am EST, when the Most Trusted Name in News™ spent 12 straight minutes on air flamboyantly hyping an exclusive bombshell report that seemed to prove that WikiLeaks, last September, had secretly offered the Trump campaign, even Donald Trump himself, special access to the DNC emails before they were published on the internet. As CNN sees the world, this would prove collusion between the Trump family and WikiLeaks and, more importantly, between Trump and Russia, since the U.S. intelligence community regards WikiLeaks as an “arm of Russian intelligence,” and therefore, so does the U.S. media.
This entire revelation was based on an email which CNN strongly implied it had exclusively obtained and had in its possession. The email was sent by someone named “Michael J. Erickson” – someone nobody had heard of previously and whom CNN could not identify – to Donald Trump, Jr., offering a decryption key and access to DNC emails that WikiLeaks had “uploaded.” The email was a smoking gun, in CNN’s extremely excited mind, because it was dated September 4 – ten days before WikiLeaks began promoting access to those emails online – and thus proved that the Trump family was being offered special, unique access to the DNC archive: likely by WikiLeaks and the Kremlin.
Baldy wrote:I so love this story. I think klam will be so proud of me.
The U.S. Media Yesterday Suffered its Most Humiliating Debacle in Ages: Now Refuses All Transparency Over What Happened
The question now is, where is jelly.Friday was one of the most embarrassing days for the U.S. media in quite a long time. The humiliation orgy was kicked off by CNN, with MSNBC and CBS close behind, with countless pundits, commentators and operatives joining the party throughout the day. By the end of the day, it was clear that several of the nation’s largest and most influential news outlets had spread an explosive but completely false news story to millions of people, while refusing to provide any explanation of how it happened.
The spectacle began on Friday morning at 11:00 am EST, when the Most Trusted Name in News™ spent 12 straight minutes on air flamboyantly hyping an exclusive bombshell report that seemed to prove that WikiLeaks, last September, had secretly offered the Trump campaign, even Donald Trump himself, special access to the DNC emails before they were published on the internet. As CNN sees the world, this would prove collusion between the Trump family and WikiLeaks and, more importantly, between Trump and Russia, since the U.S. intelligence community regards WikiLeaks as an “arm of Russian intelligence,” and therefore, so does the U.S. media.
This entire revelation was based on an email which CNN strongly implied it had exclusively obtained and had in its possession. The email was sent by someone named “Michael J. Erickson” – someone nobody had heard of previously and whom CNN could not identify – to Donald Trump, Jr., offering a decryption key and access to DNC emails that WikiLeaks had “uploaded.” The email was a smoking gun, in CNN’s extremely excited mind, because it was dated September 4 – ten days before WikiLeaks began promoting access to those emails online – and thus proved that the Trump family was being offered special, unique access to the DNC archive: likely by WikiLeaks and the Kremlin.
:Baldy wrote:I so love this story. I think klam will be so proud of me.
The U.S. Media Yesterday Suffered its Most Humiliating Debacle in Ages: Now Refuses All Transparency Over What Happened
The question now is, where is jelly.Friday was one of the most embarrassing days for the U.S. media in quite a long time. The humiliation orgy was kicked off by CNN, with MSNBC and CBS close behind, with countless pundits, commentators and operatives joining the party throughout the day. By the end of the day, it was clear that several of the nation’s largest and most influential news outlets had spread an explosive but completely false news story to millions of people, while refusing to provide any explanation of how it happened.
The spectacle began on Friday morning at 11:00 am EST, when the Most Trusted Name in News™ spent 12 straight minutes on air flamboyantly hyping an exclusive bombshell report that seemed to prove that
WikiLeaks, last September, had secretly offered the Trump campaign, even Donald Trump himself, special access to the DNC emails before they were published on the internet. As CNN sees the world, this would prove collusion between the Trump family and WikiLeaks and, more importantly, between Trump and Russia, since the U.S. intelligence community regards WikiLeaks as an “arm of Russian intelligence,” and therefore, so does the U.S. media.
This entire revelation was based on an email which CNN strongly implied it had exclusively obtained and
had in its possession. The email was sent by someone named “Michael J. Erickson” – someone nobody had heard of previously and whom CNN could not identify – to Donald Trump, Jr., offering a decryption key and access to DNC emails that WikiLeaks had “uploaded.” The email was a smoking gun, in CNN’s extremely excited mind, because it was dated September 4 – ten days before WikiLeaks began promoting access to those emails online – and thus proved that the Trump family was being offered special, unique access to the DNC archive: likely by WikiLeaks and the Kremlin.
My favorite passage from the article:Baldy wrote:I so love this story. I think klam will be so proud of me.
The U.S. Media Yesterday Suffered its Most Humiliating Debacle in Ages: Now Refuses All Transparency Over What Happened
The question now is, where is jelly.Friday was one of the most embarrassing days for the U.S. media in quite a long time. The humiliation orgy was kicked off by CNN, with MSNBC and CBS close behind, with countless pundits, commentators and operatives joining the party throughout the day. By the end of the day, it was clear that several of the nation’s largest and most influential news outlets had spread an explosive but completely false news story to millions of people, while refusing to provide any explanation of how it happened.
The spectacle began on Friday morning at 11:00 am EST, when the Most Trusted Name in News™ spent 12 straight minutes on air flamboyantly hyping an exclusive bombshell report that seemed to prove that WikiLeaks, last September, had secretly offered the Trump campaign, even Donald Trump himself, special access to the DNC emails before they were published on the internet. As CNN sees the world, this would prove collusion between the Trump family and WikiLeaks and, more importantly, between Trump and Russia, since the U.S. intelligence community regards WikiLeaks as an “arm of Russian intelligence,” and therefore, so does the U.S. media.
This entire revelation was based on an email which CNN strongly implied it had exclusively obtained and had in its possession. The email was sent by someone named “Michael J. Erickson” – someone nobody had heard of previously and whom CNN could not identify – to Donald Trump, Jr., offering a decryption key and access to DNC emails that WikiLeaks had “uploaded.” The email was a smoking gun, in CNN’s extremely excited mind, because it was dated September 4 – ten days before WikiLeaks began promoting access to those emails online – and thus proved that the Trump family was being offered special, unique access to the DNC archive: likely by WikiLeaks and the Kremlin.
Most embarrassing of all was what MSNBC did. You just have to watch this report from its “intelligence and national security correspondent” Ken Dilanian to believe it. Like CBS, Dilanian also claimed that he independently “confirmed” the false CNN report from “two sources with direct knowledge of this.” Dilanian, whose career in the U.S. media continues to flourish the more he is exposed as someone who faithfully parrots what the CIA tells him to say (since that is one of the most coveted and valued attributes in US journalism), spent three minutes mixing evidence-free CIA claims as fact with totally false assertions about what his multiple “sources with direct knowledge” told him about all this. Please watch this – again, not just the content but the tenor and tone of how they “report” – as it is Baghdad-Bob-level embarrassing:
Almost 1500 postsSkjellyfetti wrote:Jeanine Pirro calling for the arrest of Mueller and co.
She almost became Deputy Attorney General.
The emails weren't leaked from the intelligence community. CNN cited "congressional investigators." These weren't classified documents. They weren't obtained by the intelligence community, or from "unmasking."CID1990 wrote: CNN, MSNBC, and the others ALL "verified" this email with trusted sources in the IC. Why won't they out these "sources" who gave them intentionally false info?
They outed that project veritas guy. So why don't they out these sources? (Because Democracy Dies In Darkness Dontchaknow
Thank you for calling Pirro a nut.CID1990 wrote:Almost 1500 postsSkjellyfetti wrote:Jeanine Pirro calling for the arrest of Mueller and co.
She almost became Deputy Attorney General.
and we end up with you bashing some nut at Fox News
what's the word I'm looking for .... um... oh yeah "UNSATISFYING"
BTW I have an honest question for you, now that pretty much all of our news outlets have basically buried their credibility:
CNN, MSNBC, and the others ALL "verified" this email with trusted sources in the IC. Why won't they out these "sources" who gave them intentionally false info?
They outed that project veritas guy. So why don't they out these sources? (Because Democracy Dies In Darkness Dontchaknow)
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