The Official "Making America Woke Again" Thread

[Gil Dobie]

Your defending Bidens* poor leadership and poor decision making under the guise of "everyone else made bad decisions on Afghanistan". And no one here is buying it.

You know multiple people can be involved in bad decisions. This entire war was a slow-motion trainwreck of bad decisions which culminated in the rapid evacuation of Kabul (and not by just the US, let's not forget that).

As I've stated in this thread, I do place blame on the Biden's administration handling of this particular situation. What I want to know is why it unfolded the way it did so we can at least learn from the mistake. I would prefer if Americans learned that war is tragic though, but I'm sure we'll be doing this again the next time there's a major.foreign attack on our country.

This is just about Biden's role, not having a working plan for the evacuation of Afghanistan. Basically leaving everything behind for the enemy to use.

Blame the others for what they did, but Biden is responsible for this as Commander in Chief. The last 3 words of that sentence were difficult to type.

[SDHornet]

Hope our service members can get out. Not looking too good at the moment.

[UNI88]

You know multiple people can be involved in bad decisions. This entire war was a slow-motion trainwreck of bad decisions which culminated in the rapid evacuation of Kabul (and not by just the US, let's not forget that).

As I've stated in this thread, I do place blame on the Biden's administration handling of this particular situation. What I want to know is why it unfolded the way it did so we can at least learn from the mistake. I would prefer if Americans learned that war is tragic though, but I'm sure we'll be doing this again the next time there's a major.foreign attack on our country.

This is just about Biden's role, not having a working plan for the evacuation of Afghanistan. Basically leaving everything behind for the enemy to use.

Blame the others for what they did, but Biden is responsible for this as Commander in Chief. The last 3 words of that sentence were difficult to type.

What did that sign on Truman's desk say ...

[kalm]

You mean like JSO rational conservatives?

That's another dub for me.

JSO, the Lincoln Project, and a variety of other pedophiles.

I’m sorry you don’t know any rational conservatives.

[kalm]

You know multiple people can be involved in bad decisions. This entire war was a slow-motion trainwreck of bad decisions which culminated in the rapid evacuation of Kabul (and not by just the US, let's not forget that).

As I've stated in this thread, I do place blame on the Biden's administration handling of this particular situation. What I want to know is why it unfolded the way it did so we can at least learn from the mistake. I would prefer if Americans learned that war is tragic though, but I'm sure we'll be doing this again the next time there's a major.foreign attack on our country.

This is just about Biden's role, not having a working plan for the evacuation of Afghanistan. Basically leaving everything behind for the enemy to use.

Blame the others for what they did, but Biden is responsible for this as Commander in Chief. The last 3 words of that sentence were difficult to type.

If this was only about Biden’s role...

[UNI88]

JSO, the Lincoln Project, and a variety of other pedophiles.

I’m sorry you don’t know any rational conservatives.

I do know rational conservatives (there are several on CS). You and I probably just define rational conservative differently.

Rational progressives however, seem to be in short supply.

[89Hen]

And where is our CIC? Seriously...where the fuck is? Saturday / Sunday and he's up at Camp David.

Just heard and saw him fly over. I'm on the WH/CD flight path.

[kalm]

I’m sorry you don’t know any rational conservatives.

I do know rational conservatives (there are several on CS). You and I probably just define rational conservative differently.

Rational progressives however, seem to be in short supply.

I was having this discussion last night with a good friend and Trump voter who is a former chair GOO district chair. We both agreed what classical conservatives and liberals are in short supply.

That’s all I got.

[UNI88]

I do know rational conservatives (there are several on CS). You and I probably just define rational conservative differently.

Rational progressives however, seem to be in short supply.

I was having this discussion last night with a good friend and Trump voter who is a former chair GOO district chair. We both agreed what classical conservatives and liberals are in short supply.

That’s all I got.

I completely agree with that and the country is worse for it.

[CID1990]

I do know rational conservatives (there are several on CS). You and I probably just define rational conservative differently.

Rational progressives however, seem to be in short supply.

I was having this discussion last night with a good friend and Trump voter who is a former chair GOO district chair. We both agreed what classical conservatives and liberals are in short supply.

That’s all I got.

Well you are both ignorant because classical liberals and conservatives are the same thing

And you aint one


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[kalm]

I was having this discussion last night with a good friend and Trump voter who is a former chair GOO district chair. We both agreed what classical conservatives and liberals are in short supply.

That’s all I got.

Well you are both ignorant because classical liberals and conservatives are the same thing

And you aint one


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Reminds me of Ivy encouraging me to read Burke back in the day. It’s debatable.

And correct. I ain’t neither. I’m a kalmunist...

[∞∞∞]

Apparently the Northern Alliance flag has been raised in the Panjshir Valley, which is the last province not to have fallen to the Taliban. The leaders there, who are ethnically Tajik (Taliban are Pashtun), have said they'll defend the province to the end. They've been successful so far.

Reading up on the history, it's the only province the Taliban never took prior to the occupation by the United States and is - more or less - the safest area in Afghanistan (even today). The geography leads it to be particularly hostile, and it's where the Soviets got bogged down.

[Gil Dobie]

This is just about Biden's role, not having a working plan for the evacuation of Afghanistan. Basically leaving everything behind for the enemy to use.

Blame the others for what they did, but Biden is responsible for this as Commander in Chief. The last 3 words of that sentence were difficult to type.

If this was only about Biden’s role...

Biden fumbled the hand-off.

[CAA Flagship]

Apparently the Northern Alliance flag has been raised in the Panjshir Valley, which is the last province not to have fallen to the Taliban. The leaders there, who are ethnically Tajik (Taliban are Pashtun), have said they'll defend the province to the end. They've been successful so far.

Reading up on the history, it's the only province the Taliban never took prior to the occupation by the United States and is - more or less - the safest area in Afghanistan (even today). The geography leads it to be particularly hostile, and it's where the Soviets got bogged down.

Heard a report from Lara Logan that at least one high ranking Afghan official went there to defend rather than leave the country. (I think it was the equivalent of VP)

[kalm]

Apparently the Northern Alliance flag has been raised in the Panjshir Valley, which is the last province not to have fallen to the Taliban. The leaders there, who are ethnically Tajik (Taliban are Pashtun), have said they'll defend the province to the end. They've been successful so far.

Reading up on the history, it's the only province the Taliban never took prior to the occupation by the United States and is - more or less - the safest area in Afghanistan (even today). The geography leads it to be particularly hostile, and it's where the Soviets got bogged down.

Heard a report from Lara Logan that at least one high ranking Afghan official went there to defend rather than leave the country. (I think it was the equivalent of VP)

Fair.

[89Hen]

The geography leads it to be particularly hostile, and it's where the Soviets got bogged down.

I've seen that movie.

[CAA Flagship]

Where is The Squad to lead us through this crisis? Any word from them?

[Ivytalk]

Apparently the Northern Alliance flag has been raised in the Panjshir Valley, which is the last province not to have fallen to the Taliban. The leaders there, who are ethnically Tajik (Taliban are Pashtun), have said they'll defend the province to the end. They've been successful so far.

Reading up on the history, it's the only province the Taliban never took prior to the occupation by the United States and is - more or less - the safest area in Afghanistan (even today). The geography leads it to be particularly hostile, and it's where the Soviets got bogged down.

I think they should make you the CS ambassador to the Northern Alliance. Or the Panjshir Alliance. Whatever it is now. You have the street cred.

[SDHornet]

[SDHornet]

Where is The Squad to lead us through this crisis? Any word from them?

They've been pretty quiet. I wonder why.

[BDKJMU]

Pulling out of Afghanistan, Covid relief plan, and infrastructure plan passed. If this isn’t “America First,” I don’t know what is. While the evacuation was definitely a fuck-up, after the dumpster fire of the last four years, it's very low on the list of things I'll consider in future elections.

I highly doubt Americans care as much as we believe either. Afghanistan was the forgotten war and the public wanted America out; Biden will take a hit for the optics but the way he responds to the failure is as important as the failure itself. Adults admit mistakes.

It’s painful to watch but getting out was still the right call. The big mistake is that it should have happened a long, long time ago.

Infrastructure not passed yet (majority of the plan isn’t real infrastruture anyway)..

-China Virus plan a disaster.
-Border an unmitigated disaster.
-Runaway inflation.
-Surging gas prices
-Afghanistan debacle.
etc, wtc, etc

But sounds like you think your demented boy is doing just swell..

Oh and I left off:
-Skyrocketing crime rates due to the left‘s defund and neuter the police.

[Ivytalk]

Where is The Squad to lead us through this crisis? Any word from them?

They've been pretty quiet. I wonder why.

Omar and Tlaib are on the Taliban’s safe list. Don’t know about the others.

[∞∞∞]

Apparently the Northern Alliance flag has been raised in the Panjshir Valley, which is the last province not to have fallen to the Taliban. The leaders there, who are ethnically Tajik (Taliban are Pashtun), have said they'll defend the province to the end. They've been successful so far.

Reading up on the history, it's the only province the Taliban never took prior to the occupation by the United States and is - more or less - the safest area in Afghanistan (even today). The geography leads it to be particularly hostile, and it's where the Soviets got bogged down.

Heard a report from Lara Logan that at least one high ranking Afghan official went there to defend rather than leave the country. (I think it was the equivalent of VP)

According to regional news, they took Charikar today, capital of the bordering Panwar province. Some other areas in Panwar too:

http://www.uniindia.com/~/afghan-vice-p ... 80065.html

This all falls back on the ethnic tribalism of Afghanistan. There's 50+ tribes and ethnicities within the border, the largest being the Pashtun at 42% and the Tajiks at 27% (2013 CIA report), although recent surveys show it may be closer to 37% for each (2018 Asia Foundation report):

https://asiafoundation.org/wp-content/u ... 2.4.18.pdf

[Ibanez]

Infrastructure not passed yet (majority of the plan isn’t real infrastruture anyway)..

-China Virus plan a disaster.
-Border an unmitigated disaster.
-Runaway inflation.
-Surging gas prices
-Afghanistan debacle.
etc, wtc, etc

But sounds like you think your demented boy is doing just swell..

Oh and I left off:
-Skyrocketing crime rates due to the left‘s defund and neuter the police.

Is that the left that just voted with the Republicans, 99-0 in the Senate, against the defund the police narrative?

The defund the police narrative is certainly preposterous, and perhaps you are following this, but have police departments actually been defunded to the point where they are ineffectual?

[∞∞∞]

FWIW, there's quite a few videos circulating of people in the south and north of Afghanistan now beginning to resist, taunt, and even get into some scuffles with the Taliban. The Taliban's already lost grip on a province.

Not saying it won't end well for the Taliban - they have the firepower - but they still need to consolidate a highly fractured and tribal nation under their governance. If there's one good thing the US may have done, it's plant the seeds that things don't have to be this way.

Afghanistan is a demographically young nation and near half the country has little to no experience with Taliban rule.