2016 Republican Primary

[CAA Flagship]

Not as the candidate, but certainly as a conservative republican I sure can.

These issues go away when you become post-partisan...like me!

Aren't you postmenopausal too?

[BDKJMU]

FL (with 89.5% reporting, over 2 million votes)
D. Trump 45.7% 99 delegates
M. Rubio 27.0%
T. Cruz 17.1%
J. Kasich 6.8%
J. Bush 1.9%
B. Carson .9%
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/r ... nt/florida

NC
D. Trump 40.2% 458,151 29 delegates
T. Cruz 36.8% 418,740 27 delegates
J. Kasich 12.7% 144,299 9 delegates
M. Rubio 7.7% 87,858 6 delegates
B. Carson 1.0% 10,913
No Preference 0.5% 6,019
J. Bush 0.3% 3,841
M. Huckabee 0.3% 3,076
R. Paul 0.2% 2,708
C. Christie 0.1% 1,244
C. Fiorina 0.1% 944
R. Santorum 0.1% 655

OH
J. Kasich 46.8% 956,762 66 delegates
D. Trump 35.6% 727,585
T. Cruz 13.1% 267,592
M. Rubio 2.9% 59,418
B. Carson 0.7% 14,883
J. Bush 0.3% 5,572
M. Huckabee 0.2% 4,980
C. Christie 0.1% 2,586
C. Fiorina 0.1% 2,287
R. Santorum 0.1%

IL
D. Trump 38.8% 551,053 51 delegates
T. Cruz 30.3% 430,170 9 delegates
J. Kasich 19.7% 279,518 5 delegates
M. Rubio 8.7% 122,954
B. Carson 0.8% 11,198
J. Bush 0.8% 10,884
R. Paul 0.3% 4,606
C. Christie 0.2% 3,288
M. Huckabee 0.2% 2,670
C. Fiorina 0.1% 1,499
R. Santorum 0.1% 1,134

MO
D. Trump 40.9% 382,093 25 delegates
T. Cruz 40.7% 380,367 5 delegates
J. Kasich 9.9% 92,533
M. Rubio 6.1% 57,006
B. Carson 0.9% 8,201
J. Bush 0.4% 3,349
Uncommitted 0.3% 3,216
M. Huckabee 0.2% 2,137
R. Paul 0.2% 1,771
C. Christie 0.2% 1,677
R. Santorum 0.1% 729
C. Fiorina 0.1% 603

[GannonFan]

Not as the candidate, but certainly as a conservative republican I sure can.

These issues go away when you become post-partisan...like me!

I think you need to say that at least one more time to make it come true. I hear ruby slippers help too.

[BDKJMU]

Obviously a horrendous night for Rubio. 2nd place in his own state where the establishment threw everything behind Rubio and at Trump. And 4 4th place finishes.

Yeah Kasich won Ohio, but that is his home state, the ONLY state of 29 he has won. But overall, he had a terrible night. After OH, three 3rd places and a 4th.

[BDKJMU]

Delegate count:
Trump 673
Cruz 411
Rubi 169
Kasich 143

Trump/Cruz/Rubio/Kasich
1st: - 19 ---- 8 ----- 1 ------ 1
2nd: - 8 ---- 10 ---- 6 ------ 3
3rd: -- 1 ----- 9 --- 17 ------ 6
4th: -- 1 ----- 2 ---- 4 ------ 9
5th: -- 0 ----- 0 ---- 1 ------ 9
8th: -- 0 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- 1

2/1 IA: Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Kasich (8th)
2/9 NH- Trump, Kasich, Cruz, Rubio (5th)
2/20 SC- Trump, Rubio,, Cruz, Kasich (5th)
2/23 NV- Trump, Rubio, Cruz, Kasich (5th)
3/1 AL- Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich (5th)
---- AK- Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Kasich (5th)
---- AR- Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich (5th)
---- GA- Trump, Rubio, Cruz, Kasich (5th)
---- MA- Trump, Kasich, Rubio, Cruz
---- MN- Rubio, Cruz, Trump, Kasich (5th)
---- OK- Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Kasich (5th)
---- TN- Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich (5th)
---- TX- Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Kasich
---- VT- Trump, Kasich, Rubio, Cruz
---- VA- Trump, Rubio, Cruz, Kasich
3/5 KS- Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Kasich
---- KY- Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich
---- LA- Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich
---- ME- Cruz, Trump, Kasich, Rubio
3/8 ID- Cruz, Trump, Rubio, Kasich
---- HI- Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich
---- MI: Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio
---- MS: Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio
3/12 WY: Cruz, Rubio, Trump, Kasich
3/15 FL: Trump, Rubio, Cruz, Kasich
------ IL: Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio
------ NC: Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio
------ MO: Trump, Cruz, Kasich, Rubio
----- OH: Kasich, Trump, Cruz, Rubio

[BDKJMU]

Out of 29 states, 1st and 2nd places.
Trump: 27
Cruz: 18
Rubio 7
Kasich: 4

Look at the delegate count. Kasich has no mathmatical chance to win the nomination. The only thing he's going to get from here on out is mostly 3rd places with maybe a couple of 2nds. Might even take enough votes away from Cruz that he in effect propels Trump to victory in the remaining winner-take-all states, maybe even enabling Trump to secure the 1,237 delegates. Regardless staying in is eliminating any chance of Cruz getting close to Trump, and if Trump comes in to the convention with a large lead, he wins the nomination, 1237 or not.

[houndawg]

Oh, I've always been pretty liberal and I don't try to shy away from it. I don't think I've changed, just been more vocal about it during this election. I'm simply disheartened that the GOP has come down to Trump, but if the Republican electorate wants Trump, then that's the will of the people. Same with the general election.

I just think sometimes it's this forum that insulates itself from what's actually happening demographically around the country, perhaps because we aren't part of that demographic. Or maybe because people fear change (including me sometimes) or think that it's ruining the country. Or that other people's opinions shouldn't be taken seriously. I don't know, perhaps I'm painting with a broad brush.

And honestly, I try to see the conservative perspective and again, I think it often brings good ideas (and have voted for the GOP as my Rep for years now). But in general, I disagree with it almost all the time, especially when it comes to social issues. I just don't find Trump's demagoguery amusing; it reminds me a lot of other failed leaders and while I think our system of checks and balances protect us from the worst of the worst (which Trump is not), he's still a man that could lay a scary precedent/foundation.

Amen to that shit. You should have heard them when I told them last year that Hillary was going to have a bigger problem with Bernie than was commonly thought.

[SDHornet]

Oh, I've always been pretty liberal and I don't try to shy away from it. I don't think I've changed, just been more vocal about it during this election. I'm simply disheartened that the GOP has come down to Trump, but if the Republican electorate wants Trump, then that's the will of the people. Same with the general election.

I just think sometimes it's this forum that insulates itself from what's actually happening demographically around the country, perhaps because we aren't part of that demographic. Or maybe because people fear change (including me sometimes) or think that it's ruining the country. Or that other people's opinions shouldn't be taken seriously. I don't know, perhaps I'm painting with a broad brush.

And honestly, I try to see the conservative perspective and again, I think it often brings good ideas (and have voted for the GOP as my Rep for years now). But in general, I disagree with it almost all the time, especially when it comes to social issues. I just don't find Trump's demagoguery amusing; it reminds me a lot of other failed leaders and while I think our system of checks and balances protect us from the worst of the worst (which Trump is not), he's still a man that could lay a scary precedent/foundation.

Amen to that shit. You should have heard them when I told them last year that Hillary was going to have a bigger problem with Bernie than was commonly thought.

Yup. bernie lasted a whole 6 weeks longer than anyone thought. Winning!!!

[houndawg]

Amen to that ****. You should have heard them when I told them last year that Hillary was going to have a bigger problem with Bernie than was commonly thought.

Yup. bernie lasted a whole 6 weeks longer than anyone thought. Winning!!!

He's a big enough problem that Hillary now sounds more like him than he does.

[SDHornet]

Yup. bernie lasted a whole 6 weeks longer than anyone thought. Winning!!!

He's a big enough problem that Hillary now sounds more like him than he does.

That's true. I'll give bernie some credit, but he could have done better if he wasn't such a pussy regarding her proven incompetence.

[houndawg]

He's a big enough problem that Hillary now sounds more like him than he does.

That's true. I'll give bernie some credit, but he could have done better if he wasn't such a pussy regarding her proven incompetence.

Lots of time left.

[GannonFan]

That's true. I'll give bernie some credit, but he could have done better if he wasn't such a pussy regarding her proven incompetence.

Lots of time left.

No there's not, it's over. Unless Bernie has connections with the FBI and can get an indictment against her. Otherwise, this thing was over after this last Tuesday.

[Baldy]

These issues go away when you become post-partisan...like me!

I think you need to say that at least one more time to make it come true. I hear ruby slippers help too.

[SDHornet]

Lots of time left.

No there's not, it's over. Unless Bernie has connections with the FBI and can get an indictment against her. Otherwise, this thing was over after this last Tuesday.

Yup. bernie is done.

[∞∞∞]

Bernie is as much part of the establishment as Clinton; they've voted the same way 93% of the time. And he's been in Congress for 26 years, which is 18 years longer than her time in Congress.

Additionally, I read the man has worked for three years in a non-political job after high school. Think about that: he's 74 and he's worked three years outside of politics? Take out ages 0-18 and that's still only 5% of his life. Wut?

[YoUDeeMan]

Bernie is as much part of the establishment as Clinton; they've voted the same way 93% of the time. And he's been in Congress for 26 years, which is 18 years longer than her time in Congress.

Additionally, I read the man has worked for three years in a non-political job after high school. Think about that: he's 74 and he's worked three years outside of politics? Take out ages 0-18 and that's still only 5% of his life. Wut?

Listening to the Hillary Clinton media stations, eh?

[∞∞∞]

Bernie is as much part of the establishment as Clinton; they've voted the same way 93% of the time. And he's been in Congress for 26 years, which is 18 years longer than her time in Congress.

Additionally, I read the man has worked for three years in a non-political job after high school. Think about that: he's 74 and he's worked three years outside of politics? Take out ages 0-18 and that's still only 5% of his life. Wut?

Listening to the Hillary Clinton media stations, eh?

Oh Hillary has her demons too; I'm not questioning that. I just question the fact the Bernie is an anti-establishment candidate. Trump is the only genuine anti-establishment candidate, even though he's supported the establishment for years now. The choices in this election are paltry.

[houndawg]

Listening to the Hillary Clinton media stations, eh?

Oh Hillary has her demons too; I'm not questioning that. I just question the fact the Bernie is an anti-establishment candidate. Trump is the only genuine anti-establishment candidate, even though he's supported the establishment for years now. The choices in this election are paltry.

...he voted against the TPP, Iraq, the Patriot Act, the Wall Street bailout..

[CID1990]

Oh Hillary has her demons too; I'm not questioning that. I just question the fact the Bernie is an anti-establishment candidate. Trump is the only genuine anti-establishment candidate, even though he's supported the establishment for years now. The choices in this election are paltry.

...he voted against the TPP, Iraq, the Patriot Act, the Wall Street bailout..

That makes him the liberal John McCain, not anti-establishment.

Bernie has been entrenched in Congress for a long time.

[kalm]

Bernie is as much part of the establishment as Clinton; they've voted the same way 93% of the time. And he's been in Congress for 26 years, which is 18 years longer than her time in Congress.

Additionally, I read the man has worked for three years in a non-political job after high school. Think about that: he's 74 and he's worked three years outside of politics? Take out ages 0-18 and that's still only 5% of his life. Wut?

The shared voting record is a good point. Do you have a link to it. I googled head to head voting record comparisons and the Sunlight Foundation used to have one, but it's been retired.

I'm guessing that 1) there are some explanations related to the types of legislation/resolutions being voted on during the Bush-Obama years 2) much of it if not the vast majority was fluff, and 3) you might find some surprisingly similar results between Hillary and certain Republicans.

I'd like to see the comparison on key issues like foreign policy, banking and monopolies, and trade (voted for the Iraq War, ties to wall street and other large corporations, and was a big supporter of NAFTA)

I don't think the establishment can be defined simply as how long one has been involved in government. Bernie has had a long careeeah (my brain made me pronounce that in a Bernie NY accent ) but he's spent 99% of it as an independent. In fact he was the first indie to be elected to congress in 40 years.

I think the establishment in regards to politics is best defined as entrenched powah ( ). The establishment includes those in the private sector who manipulate politicians and the system for favorable outcomes. Therefore, Trump too might be considered part of the establishment and has admitted as much although his pivot away from it is a solid selling point to fix the broken system as he can claim to know where the bodies are buried. The establishment also includes the duopolistic party machines.

Here's a good read from reason.com that describes the phenomenon of the Bernie-Ron Paul connection (remember they both co-sponsored a bill to audit the Fed?) and some interesting numbers from Nate Silver. It describes the misleading nature of labels and the two-party establishment.

Silver points out, rightly, that the American two-party system doesn't do much to encourage political science rigor in how Americans apply labels to ideas. Both major parties "are not all that philosophically coherent, nor do they reflect the relatively diverse and multidimensional political views of individual Americans. Instead, the major American political parties are best understood as coalitions of interest groups that work together to further one another’s agendas."

Thus, Silver guesses that youthful statements of approval of the "socialist" and "libertarian" labels is just another sign of a growing and expanding sense of ideological independence from existing two-party structures, an idea you may have read about around here. via our own Matt Welch and Nick Gillespie's book Declaration of Independents.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/09/the-r ... connection

Similar to Ron Paul, Bernie is not "establishment".

[CID1990]

Bernie is as much part of the establishment as Clinton; they've voted the same way 93% of the time. And he's been in Congress for 26 years, which is 18 years longer than her time in Congress.

Additionally, I read the man has worked for three years in a non-political job after high school. Think about that: he's 74 and he's worked three years outside of politics? Take out ages 0-18 and that's still only 5% of his life. Wut?

The shared voting record is a good point. Do you have a link to it. I googled head to head voting record comparisons and the Sunlight Foundation used to have one, but it's been retired.

I'm guessing that 1) there are some explanations related to the types of legislation/resolutions being voted on during the Bush-Obama years 2) much of it if not the vast majority was fluff, and 3) you might find some surprisingly similar results between Hillary and certain Republicans.

I'd like to see the comparison on key issues like foreign policy, banking and monopolies, and trade (voted for the Iraq War, ties to wall street and other large corporations, and was a big supporter of NAFTA)

I don't think the establishment can be defined simply as how long one has been involved in government. Bernie has had a long careeeah (my brain made me pronounce that in a Bernie NY accent ) but he's spent 99% of it as an independent. In fact he was the first indie to be elected to congress in 40 years.

I think the establishment in regards to politics is best defined as entrenched powah ( ). The establishment includes those in the private sector who manipulate politicians and the system for favorable outcomes. Therefore, Trump too might be considered part of the establishment and has admitted as much although his pivot away from it is a solid selling point to fix the broken system as he can claim to know where the bodies are buried. The establishment also includes the duopolistic party machines.

Here's a good read from reason.com that describes the phenomenon of the Bernie-Ron Paul connection (remember they both co-sponsored a bill to audit the Fed?) and some interesting numbers from Nate Silver. It describes the misleading nature of labels and the two-party establishment.

Silver points out, rightly, that the American two-party system doesn't do much to encourage political science rigor in how Americans apply labels to ideas. Both major parties "are not all that philosophically coherent, nor do they reflect the relatively diverse and multidimensional political views of individual Americans. Instead, the major American political parties are best understood as coalitions of interest groups that work together to further one another’s agendas."

Thus, Silver guesses that youthful statements of approval of the "socialist" and "libertarian" labels is just another sign of a growing and expanding sense of ideological independence from existing two-party structures, an idea you may have read about around here. via our own Matt Welch and Nick Gillespie's book Declaration of Independents.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/02/09/the-r ... connection

Similar to Ron Paul, Bernie is not "establishment".

I define it as being a career entrenched politician and therefore I think Bernie is as establishment as they come.

You guys hold me to my word - when I leave federal service I will spill the beans on my experience with Bernie. For now, suffice to say that he literally has no concept of ANYTHING outside of his political existence and his adherence to long tried and failed social policies. He's literally a political savant who instinctively knows how to get around the senate office building but cannot ties his own shoes

[BDKJMU]

Anti Trump protestors shut down AZ highway leading to Trump rally.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgG3_h2wrts[/youtube]

There needs to be a law in the country that protesters blocking highways are allowed to be run over..

[BDKJMU]

"Protesters clash with SLC police outside Trump rally

SALT LAKE CITY -- Video clips captured outside the Donald Trump rally in Salt Lake City Friday night shows protesters in a shoving match with officers in riot gear.

In the video, the protesters can be heard shouting "Trump Stinks!"

In another clip, protesters appear to tear down a security tent and can be heard yelling "Shut it down!"

BREAKING: ugly scene as trump protesters tear down security tent. Officers forcefully pushed back
— Peter Doocy (@pdoocy) March 19, 2016

The clips were captured by FOX News correspondent Peter Doocy. Later Friday night, things calmed down in the vicinity as the rally ended and the crowds ultimately dispersed.

FOX 13 also received a report of rocks being thrown at people exiting the Infinity Event Center, where Trump made his first appearance in Salt Lake City this campaign season....."
http://fox13now.com/2016/03/18/proteste ... ump-rally/

[∞∞∞]

There needs to be a law in the country that protesters blocking highways are allowed to be run over..

So the people's right to peaceful protest should result in their murder?

[DSUrocks07]

There needs to be a law in the country that protesters blocking highways are allowed to be run over..

So the people's right to peaceful protest should result in their murder?

There's nothing peaceful about these protests.