Bad precedent

[Ibanez]

Except for the 34% that have, right? It's less than 51% so who cares, amirite?

Your statement makes no sense

Aren't you an accountant or something similar? Go back and read your posts.

[Ibanez]

Huh? So the "leave no man behind" works for this "POW" trade but can be ignored for the men left behind in Benghazi?

There was no way to rescue the 4 in Benghazi once the attack started. Shame on you for implying otherwise.

there is documented evidence that an attack was imminent and there were forces that could've helped. What didn't help was blaming it on a YouTube video. Shane on you for blindly following anyone and failing to critically think. It is our job to hold elected officials accountable.

[Ibanez]

I get the feeling that this is a truly, illegal situation. Maybe even impeachable of one of the released prisoner launch attacks. What really did we gain by recovering a soldier who appears to be disenfranchised with us and sympathetic to our "enemy?" I know May people are outraged with Benghazi, Obamacare, the IRS an now the VA issues however, I get the feeling this event can be a "game changer."

Lots of Gitmo prisoners have been released. 30% of Bush's releases have been later implicated in attacks after release, only 4% of Obama's.

Benghazi and the IRS are fake scandals. The VA has as much to do with the GOP refusing to fund it properly as anything.


This is a non-issue

You're spot-on right..about one thing. A lot of prisoners have been released. From a peak of 770 to 154 (as of last month) With only 17% returned to terrorist activities. It's not spelled out, but i'd love to see your source that shows the 30%/4% break down.

At its peak, Guantanamo Bay had 770 men believed by the U.S. government to be involved in terrorist activity or military attacks.
That number has dwindled significantly. As of last month, the facility had 154 detainees.
A September 2013 report from the director of national intelligence reflected on what happened to the roughly 600 people who left Gitmo between its opening in 2002 and July 2013.
Of those, 100 -- or 16.6% of the released prisoners -- were "confirmed" to have returned "to terrorist activities." Seventeen of those died, while 27 ended up in custody, according to the DNI report.
An additional 70 are "suspected of reengaging," it said.
"Based on trends identified during the past 10 years, we assess that if additional detainees are transferred without conditions ... some will reengage in terrorist or insurgent activities," the report said.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/04/us/gitmo- ... s-history/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Btw, if Bush had released no prisoners, you'd be bitching about indefinite incarceration. So, you can't have it both ways.

[AZGrizFan]

I get the feeling that this is a truly, illegal situation. Maybe even impeachable of one of the released prisoner launch attacks. What really did we gain by recovering a soldier who appears to be disenfranchised with us and sympathetic to our "enemy?" I know May people are outraged with Benghazi, Obamacare, the IRS an now the VA issues however, I get the feeling this event can be a "game changer."

Lots of Gitmo prisoners have been released. 30% of Bush's releases have been later implicated in attacks after release, only 4% of Obama's.

Benghazi and the IRS are fake scandals. The VA has as much to do with the GOP refusing to fund it properly as anything.


This is a non-issue

Fake scandals. Obama has done nothing wrong in your eyes? right?

[YoUDeeMan]

Lots of Gitmo prisoners have been released. 30% of Bush's releases have been later implicated in attacks after release, only 4% of Obama's.

Benghazi and the IRS are fake scandals. The VA has as much to do with the GOP refusing to fund it properly as anything.


This is a non-issue

wow

here's one of your fellow lefties Jon - a former FSO at the State Dept who left after writing a book critical of Iraq- explaining why there needs to be answers on Benghazi... if for no other reason than one of the key players desperately wants your vote for Prez in 2016...

http://wemeantwell.com/blog/2014/06/02/ ... /#comments" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Your comment about the VA has been roundly debunked by both sides.... the VA's funding has increased exponentially in the last 10 years, and your fellow hacks were just recently holding it up as the paragon of a successful government healthcare program. Not so much now, though

You can make your statements as bombastic as you want but it doesnt bring them any closer to reality.

You know that Jon loves to regularly have his azz handed to him...he actually wants you to smack it harder.

Jon...takin' it up the azz for fun.

[andy7171]

Um. Have we hit a new 6.93 mark here?

[CitadelGrad]

[CAA Flagship]

Watched Morning Joe on MSNBC and Obama is taking an unprecedented ass beating from a show on that channel.

[andy7171]

Watched Morning Joe on MSNBC and Obama is taking an unprecedented ass beating from a show on that channel.

Last night on the local news they had a 5 minute interview of a Baltimore kid who was in Bergdahl's platoon. He had absolutely nothing good to say about him. One of his best friends died in the initial search for him.

If it turns out that he did give up intel, including the cell phone dismanteling, on his own. This shit is going to get real. Dancing very close to treason, and the hard line democrats seem to be drawing a line that they cannot cross. Yay America!

On a side note. I dated Morning Joes exec producer. In real life.

[Ibanez]

that was great when Col Hogan posted it days ago

[Ibanez]

This whole thing stinks out loud. Either Obama ignores his advisors or has too many bad ones. From interviews I've seen, I think it's the former

[YoUDeeMan]

that was great when Col Hogan posted it days ago

It was a quick re-release before going to DVD.

[CID1990]

This whole thing stinks out loud. Either Obama ignores his advisors or has too many bad ones. From interviews I've seen, I think it's the former

I think it is the former. The guy's ego is way too big to rely too much on other people for advice. At least that is the vibe I get.

[Ibanez]

This whole thing stinks out loud. Either Obama ignores his advisors or has too many bad ones. From interviews I've seen, I think it's the former

I think it is the former. The guy's ego is way too big to rely too much on other people for advice. At least that is the vibe I get.

ditto

[HI54UNI]

This whole thing stinks out loud. Either Obama ignores his advisors or has too many bad ones. From interviews I've seen, I think it's the former

I think it is the former. The guy's ego is way too big to rely too much on other people for advice. At least that is the vibe I get.

Agreed. Although there is some of the latter too, i.e. Valerie Jarrett.

[Bronco]

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Report: Obama Passed Up Several Chances To Rescue Bergdahl Because He Wanted Prisoner Swap With The Taliban To Help Close Gitmo…

Via Daily Mail:


1st thing Obama Bin Lyin did was hide his past but 2nd thing was to try and close Gitmo but Congress resisted so this wouldn't surprise me.

[dbackjon]

Majority of Gitmo prisoners have never been linked to terrorism, or any attacks against the US.

How do you know this?

Try the googles - it is in many, many articles.

[dbackjon]

There was no way to rescue the 4 in Benghazi once the attack started. Shame on you for implying otherwise.

Again. How do you know this? Why not ATTEMPT to save them?

They did - and the MILITARY determined that they would not reach Benghazi in time. No, they didn't just ignore the situation - more Faux lies

[dbackjon]

Jon you're getting pummeled. Just blame Bush and move onto preparing spin for Obama's next scandal.

No, I am not - I am the only one smart enough to actually research the issues and not fall for the fake Conk soundbite of the day.

[dbackjon]

Lots of Gitmo prisoners have been released. 30% of Bush's releases have been later implicated in attacks after release, only 4% of Obama's.

Benghazi and the IRS are fake scandals. The VA has as much to do with the GOP refusing to fund it properly as anything.


This is a non-issue

Fake scandals. Obama has done nothing wrong in your eyes? right?

he's done plenty wrong. As has every other president. Just the Conks get up in arms and cry "Impeach" "traitor" "worst thing ever" whenever Obama does anything, even if Bush/Reagan had done the same thing 20 times before.

And the Right-wing Media and the sheeple lap it all up.

[AZGrizFan]

Fake scandals. Obama has done nothing wrong in your eyes? right?

he's done plenty wrong. As has every other president. Just the Conks get up in arms and cry "Impeach" "traitor" "worst thing ever" whenever Obama does anything, even if Bush/Reagan had done the same thing 20 times before.

And the Right-wing Media and the sheeple lap it all up.

"same" thing. That's funny. That doesn't make them "fake". There's nothing that's even close to Benghazi. Or the IRS. Or the VA. Or the latest trade of the Taliban Top Five. Whats more disturbing than the fact that these things happen is the fact (admitted by Obama on EVERY occasion) that he HAD NO KNOWLEDGE of any of these events, and learned of them from the fucking paper!

[AZGrizFan]

Again. How do you know this? Why not ATTEMPT to save them?

They did - and the MILITARY determined that they would not reach Benghazi in time. No, they didn't just ignore the situation - more Faux lies

Nope. Incorrect. False. More MSNBC spin...

[andy7171]

OK. So, using dback logic, Chris Matthews loses the point to this interview/argument/whatever the hell is going on here...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzrzg4lA3u0[/youtube]

[Ibanez]

Jon you're getting pummeled. Just blame Bush and move onto preparing spin for Obama's next scandal.

No, I am not - I am the only one smart enough to actually research the issues and not fall for the fake Conk soundbite of the day.

You research but don't provide any proof of it. Got it.

[Ibanez]

Fake scandals. Obama has done nothing wrong in your eyes? right?

he's done plenty wrong. As has every other president. Just the Conks get up in arms and cry "Impeach" "traitor" "worst thing ever" whenever Obama does anything, even if Bush/Reagan had done the same thing 20 times before.

And the Right-wing Media and the sheeple lap it all up.

It was the Same thing during Bush. Just because one party does it, that doesn't make it ok or others to do it. Fuck, we teach that to CHILDREN.