"Global Warming"

[travelinman67]

Careful, that is about one or two loose screws away from a Spandos post

You read nothing. You learn nothing. You condemn information solely based upon the source without disputing the specific accuracy of what's offered.

And you blindly accept the accuracy of other assertions, again, solely due the the source (governmental).

Yet you imply that I'm "crazy"?

[Brock Landers]

Could you almost say that I am "sheeple"?

[Brock Landers]

Oooh, I take it back. There really is a conspiracy theory linking this all to eugenics, depopulation and all sorts of good stuff

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/envi ... rming-hype" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/08/human ... al-agenda/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Man, I now have at least several afternoons worth of entertai-I mean information to dig into. Thanks Tman!

[travelinman67]

Oooh, I take it back. There really is a conspiracy theory linking this all to eugenics, depopulation and all sorts of good stuff

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/envi ... rming-hype" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/08/human ... al-agenda/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Man, I now have at least several afternoons worth of entertai-I mean information to dig into. Thanks Tman!

You apparently have difficulty with reading comprehension as neither of the two articles you cited make reference to "WWF", "UNESCO", "Julian Huxley" or the book "The Environmental Revolution: A Guide For The Masters Of The World".

Rather you referenced Alarmist hit pieces attempting to portray skeptics as conspiracy loons.

Pretty immature response.

[Brock Landers]

I would just like to point out that I was called out for being "immature" on cs.com





CS.COM!



But fine, I'll humor you and look into your bullshit. I expect it to be about as compelling as the conspiracies about laetrile, MMR, birth certificates, etc.

[D1B]

Facts are facts, but I'm not going to lose my shit over mm's of ocean rise. Call me callous, but do so in 30 years when it's up to a couple of cm's at least. We(people) ain't go shit to do with it.

Moron.

[∞∞∞]

The overwhelming majority of US scientists acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming majority of the world's scientists acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming majority of first and second-world government bodies, including religious bodies, acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming population of first and second-world populations acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. Islands are sinking, coast lines are receding, animals have changed their migration patterns, algal blooms are popping up everywhere, asthma has increased, and the poles are melting.

But don't worry everyone, the conservative right in the US (less than 1% of the world's population)...they got this. They went to school and got PhDs, studied the data, created computer models, and peer reviewed each others work. And they even post their opinions on internet forums for us simpletons to understand. Lucky for us, it looks like there's nothing to see. All those other "experts" with their fancy journals are wrong.

Thanks JSO!!! Thanks travelinman!!! Now I can open up a coal mine and instead of installing a scrubber, I can make 103 million instead of 100 million!!! Y'all are the best!!!

[kalm]

The overwhelming majority of US scientists acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming majority of the world's scientists acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming majority of first and second-world government bodies, including religious bodies, acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming population of first and second-world populations acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. Islands are sinking, coast lines are receding, animals have changed their migration patterns, algal blooms are popping up everywhere, asthma has increased, and the poles are melting.

But don't worry everyone, the conservative right in the US (less than 1% of the world's population)...they got this. They went to school and got PhDs, studied the data, created computer models, and peer reviewed each others work. And they even post their opinions on internet forums for us simpletons to understand. Lucky for us, it looks like there's nothing to see. All those other "experts" with their fancy journals are wrong.

Thanks JSO!!! Thanks travelinman!!! Now I can open up a coal mine and instead of installing a scrubber, I can make 103 million instead of 100 million!!! Y'all are the best!!!

Nice!

[houndawg]

The overwhelming majority of US scientists acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming majority of the world's scientists acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming majority of first and second-world government bodies, including religious bodies, acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming population of first and second-world populations acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. Islands are sinking, coast lines are receding, animals have changed their migration patterns, algal blooms are popping up everywhere, asthma has increased, and the poles are melting.

But don't worry everyone, the conservative right in the US (less than 1% of the world's population)...they got this. They went to school and got PhDs, studied the data, created computer models, and peer reviewed each others work. And they even post their opinions on internet forums for us simpletons to understand. Lucky for us, it looks like there's nothing to see. All those other "experts" with their fancy journals are wrong.

Thanks JSO!!! Thanks travelinman!!! Now I can open up a coal mine and instead of installing a scrubber, I can make 103 million instead of 100 million!!! Y'all are the best!!!

But.....but.... scientists are lefties....

[houndawg]

I would just like to point out that I was called out for being "immature" on cs.com





CS.COM!



But fine, I'll humor you and look into your bullshit. I expect it to be about as compelling as the conspiracies about laetrile, MMR, birth certificates, etc.

He's trying to fill the big shoes that JBB left behind.


And Benghazi!



Also sodomy.

[travelinman67]

The overwhelming majority of US scientists acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming majority of the world's scientists acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming majority of first and second-world government bodies, including religious bodies, acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. The overwhelming population of first and second-world populations acknowledge that man-made climate change is a serious issue. Islands are sinking, coast lines are receding, animals have changed their migration patterns, algal blooms are popping up everywhere, asthma has increased, and the poles are melting.

But don't worry everyone, the conservative right in the US (less than 1% of the world's population)...they got this. They went to school and got PhDs, studied the data, created computer models, and peer reviewed each others work. And they even post their opinions on internet forums for us simpletons to understand. Lucky for us, it looks like there's nothing to see. All those other "experts" with their fancy journals are wrong.

You are repeating talking points you've heard on TV.

Post the SCIENCE! Post the DATASETS! Post the METHODOLOGY! Debate the SKEPTICS challenges!

You won't, because:
The science is flawed and theory is unsupported by results.
The datasets are incomplete and almost in all cases "modified".
The methodology is designed to "force" results.
The principal technique employed to sell this theory is the "shoutdown" (which you have aptly demonstrated here). Scientific method does not include the "democratic" vote, ABSENT SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH!!

BTW, none of the current scientific publications I've read support your belief that the "climate change" theory is a "concluded theory". Rather, the scientific community (non-politicized) generally view climate change as an immensely complex field of science that will require decades of further research before any accurate modeling can be developed: A position which has been successfully supported by the current failed modeling.

And, as a side note, do you really think that childish mockery helps convince anyone that "your position" represents an enlightened person's viewpoint?

[∞∞∞]

I have no science to back up anything, so you win the debate travelin'. You're more scientifically literate, more enlightened, and better than me in every way. Keep up the good fight my friend.

I need to be on my way now. I have a bingo date with some old people at noon and afterwards, I need to continue destroying the rest of America with my liberal ideologies.

[kalm]

And, as a side note, do you really think that childish mockery helps convince anyone that "your position" represents an enlightened person's viewpoint?

[YoUDeeMan]

So, let me get this straight...the seas have risen 3.2 millimeters per year, on average, over the past two decades.
Multiply that by 6.93 and you get an amazing 2.5 inches of sea level rise.

2.5 inches.

Stop the presses.

Seriously, folks, when you factor in a margin of error, and compare it to the historical data of the planet's climate changes, that number doesn't do crap for me. I'm still going to eat meat, drive a car, run an air conditioner, and have fun. And fart.

Now, the amazing part of this is that continents rise and fall all of the time due to things unrelated to CO2. The Pacific is shrinking, the Atlantic is growing, Miami is sinking, Venice is sinking, K2 is still growing, etc. Given all of that continental mass movement, and the subsequent effect on the water levels of such movement, and throwing in the tidal effect of the moon and the impact of the world's winds on water movement (thus, water level), it is amazing that science thinks it can pin down any significant part of that estimated 2.5 inches to global warmin...uh, climate change.

Tectonic plate movements won't be stopped by conservation. Withdrawal of ground water supplies won't be stopped anytime soon unless we find another way to provide water to the masses. And islands certainly won't stop tipping over if we don't stop putting so many more people on them.

The Earth will change, populations and civilizations will move and change (Iraq used to be a paradise a couple thousand years ago). During this time, poor people will suffer a bit, wealthy people will do just fine, the middle class will be asked to sacrifice for both the poor and the rich, and smart people will make a profit from all the chaos. And, life will go on.

In other words...same shit, different day.

Frankly, I won't stop living my lifestyle until the uber wealthy folks and politicians cut back their lifestyles...actually, that wouldn't change my ways either.

It is comical for the mass media and politicians to shout that the sky is falling, and then ask for everyone (else) to conserve, while at the same time they are living large and wasting umteen billions of people's money.

[CAA Flagship]

Facts are facts, but I'm not going to lose my shit over mm's of ocean rise. Call me callous, but do so in 30 years when it's up to a couple of cm's at least. We(people) ain't go shit to do with it.

Moron.

D, you clearly did not follow instructions here. Please try and stay focused.

[travelinman67]

I have no science to back up anything, so you win the debate travelin'. You're more scientifically literate, more enlightened, and better than me in every way. Keep up the good fight my friend...

A sadly accurate confession.

Don't fret though, you can probably beat me at golf and tennis.

[Seahawks08]

I have no science to back up anything, so you win the debate travelin'. You're more scientifically literate, more enlightened, and better than me in every way. Keep up the good fight my friend...

A sadly accurate confession.

Don't fret though, you can probably beat me at golf and tennis.

No but seriously...

Spoiler: show

Now go read some http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

and some more of http://www.wunderground.com/climate/facts.asp

I understand you have a thick skull, but for a moment, just one moment, open your mind up and let some science in (and I'll preempt you by saying you'll come back with some faulty reason why facts on both those websites are wrong and you are right because

Spoiler: show

[Baldy]

So, let me get this straight...the seas have risen 3.2 millimeters per year, on average, over the past two decades.
Multiply that by 6.93 and you get an amazing 2.5 inches of sea level rise.

2.5 inches.

Stop the presses.

Seriously, folks, when you factor in a margin of error, and compare it to the historical data of the planet's climate changes, that number doesn't do crap for me. I'm still going to eat meat, drive a car, run an air conditioner, and have fun. And fart.

Now, the amazing part of this is that continents rise and fall all of the time due to things unrelated to CO2. The Pacific is shrinking, the Atlantic is growing, Miami is sinking, Venice is sinking, K2 is still growing, etc. Given all of that continental mass movement, and the subsequent effect on the water levels of such movement, and throwing in the tidal effect of the moon and the impact of the world's winds on water movement (thus, water level), it is amazing that science thinks it can pin down any significant part of that estimated 2.5 inches to global warmin...uh, climate change.

Tectonic plate movements won't be stopped by conservation. Withdrawal of ground water supplies won't be stopped anytime soon unless we find another way to provide water to the masses. And islands certainly won't stop tipping over if we don't stop putting so many more people on them.

The Earth will change, populations and civilizations will move and change (Iraq used to be a paradise a couple thousand years ago). During this time, poor people will suffer a bit, wealthy people will do just fine, the middle class will be asked to sacrifice for both the poor and the rich, and smart people will make a profit from all the chaos. And, life will go on.

In other words...same shit, different day.

Frankly, I won't stop living my lifestyle until the uber wealthy folks and politicians cut back their lifestyles...actually, that wouldn't change my ways either.

It is comical for the mass media and politicians to shout that the sky is falling, and then ask for everyone (else) to conserve, while at the same time they are living large and wasting umteen billions of people's money.

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[houndawg]

Actually, can someone explain to me why you think this is some liberal/government/scientist conspiracy to subvert or twist the truth? What do they have to gain?

Study:

Julian Huxley
Founding of UNESCO
Founding of WWF
Read: "The Environmental Revolution: A Guide For The Masters Of The World" (Max Nicholson)

I won't cite sources, as that would just provoke the Trolls.
I will intimate that the scam is founded in preserving monarchial-oligarchic control via depopulation and use of environmental regulations to suppress democratic government.

Study. Learn.

I don't think spandos would mind if you credit him as your source.