Progressive Utopia

[travelinman67]

So myopic, it's almost unbelievable...

http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-paid- ... ge-future/

...your tax dollars at work.

[Chizzang]

And we spend $80 Billion on this crap... (go figure)
One man's Utopia is another mans Dog Fight

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... ts-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Ivytalk]

Yahara, eh? Cleets could be the aging guru of that place.

[Baldy]

And we spend $80 Billion on this crap... (go figure)
One man's Utopia is another mans Dog Fight

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... ts-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Deflection of the Year!!!

Well played, Chizzy.

[Pwns]

That's 4 mil that will be spent on crap instead of energy or medical research. And I thought NSF money was tight these days. Guess not.

[kalm]

They also spent $700,000 on an AGW musical.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/26/feds- ... oogle.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

And we spend $80 Billion on this crap... (go figure)
One man's Utopia is another mans Dog Fight

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... ts-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Deflection of the Year!!!

Well played, Chizzy.

It's what he does, when he's a edjukatin uz..........local folk.

[YoUDeeMan]

We don't need more taxes...we need less crap.

[D1B]

The hippies are right.

[Chizzang]

And we spend $80 Billion on this crap... (go figure)
One man's Utopia is another mans Dog Fight

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... ts-report/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Deflection of the Year!!!

Well played, Chizzy.

It is both a deflection and a valid observation of "what's good for the goose"...

But I agree (not my strongest reply)

[CID1990]

if progressives ever achieved their 'utopia' they would be appalled

[kalm]

if progressives ever achieved their 'utopia' they would be appalled

So would conservatives.

[CID1990]

if progressives ever achieved their 'utopia' they would be appalled

So would conservatives.

that goes without saying

but I believe what you are trying to say is that conservatives would be appalled if they acheived their own utopia

[Chizzang]

So would conservatives.

that goes without saying

but I believe what you are trying to say is that conservatives would be appalled if they acheived their own utopia

Interesting point really...
The old saying be careful what you wish for applies here strongly
Because with each (Liberal and Conservative) ideologies comes the tag-along issues

Take for example our favorite whipping boy on the forum: Big Religion

It has attached itself to the conservative movement (like it or not) and it has it's own "Ultimate Goals" and end-game that do not cleanly fold into the Conservative Utopia but they are hand in hand skipping down the lane together...

I know this conversation will turn into this but it might be fun to discuss

[CID1990]

that goes without saying

but I believe what you are trying to say is that conservatives would be appalled if they acheived their own utopia

Interesting point really...
The old saying be careful what you wish for applies here strongly
Because with each (Liberal and Conservative) ideologies comes the tag-along issues

Take for example our favorite whipping boy on the forum: Big Religion

It has attached itself to the conservative movement (like it or not) and it has it's own "Ultimate Goals" and end-game that do not cleanly fold into the Conservative Utopia but they are hand in hand skipping down the lane together...

I know this conversation will turn into this but it might be fun to discuss

or the progressive idea that there is no problem that cannot be handled through force of government

at some point they would decry the loss of liberty... and when you think about it... it is already happening

our government has a life or death mandate (do it or lose your office) to protect us and yet few people question where that takes us

[Baldy]

if progressives ever achieved their 'utopia' they would be appalled

Well of course...just look at what's happening in California and New York.
They vote for the most "progressive" candidate and once that person gets in office and passes more "progressive" legislation the people start leaving in droves because of the repressive taxes, rules, regulations, etc.
They then set up residence in Colorado, North Carolina, Florida, etc. and do the same thing...rinse and repeat.

[CitadelGrad]

That's 4 mil that will be spent on crap instead of energy or medical research. And I thought NSF money was tight these days. Guess not.

Money is never tight when you have a fiat currency that can be printed at will.

[Chizzang]

Ugh..!!!
Three great posts ^ back-to-back-to-back and I want to speak to all of them