Oh shit , we are hosed ...BDKJMU wrote:And they tried to take on practically the whole world with a leader that was an idiot when it came to strategy.Cluck U wrote:The Germans had some of the best weapons in WWII.
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
Ibanez wrote:You need to do the research for yourself. Stop expecting the education white males to do your thinking for you. If you continue to ask me to answer questions, i'll start charging a fee of $100/question.mrklean wrote:
I just asked you if its was a Boomer or a Attack Class Sub.
Like I expected. The class of Attack Sub is a Billion dollar cheaper version of the Sea Wolf. The Sea Wolf Class cost 2.8 Billion to make. The Virginia Class cost 1.8 Billion. I have one question, what happenede to all of the Money put into R&D for the Sea Wolf. The Sea Wolf class project started in 1983. THis was supposed to be the next killer azz sub. Now you tell me its too expensive to maintain. I'm I the only ony here who thinks this was a waste of OUR money. You rednecks bitch about Obamacare, put you give this shit a pass. As long as you put it under defense, its fine to waste 10 billion dollars. But spend 10 billion dollars caring for the poor, and you have a heart attack. MUST BE A WHITE MALE THING
Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
mrklean wrote:Ibanez wrote:
You need to do the research for yourself. Stop expecting the education white males to do your thinking for you. If you continue to ask me to answer questions, i'll start charging a fee of $100/question.
Like I expected. The class of Attack Sub is a Billion dollar cheaper version of the Sea Wolf. The Sea Wolf Class cost 2.8 Billion to make. The Virginia Class cost 1.8 Billion. I have one question, what happenede to all of the Money put into R&D for the Sea Wolf. The Sea Wolf class project started in 1983. THis was supposed to be the next killer azz sub. Now you tell me its too expensive to maintain. I'm I the only ony here who thinks this was a waste of OUR money. You rednecks bitch about Obamacare, put you give this shit a pass. As long as you put it under defense, its fine to waste 10 billion dollars. But spend 10 billion dollars caring for the poor, and you have a heart attack. MUST BE A WHITE MALE THING![]()
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What's with the racism? And who is this "you" you keep talking about? It certainly isn't me. ANd you, being a god-fearing, honest man is certainly not stereotyping others. I mean, if you (klean) want racism to decline, then you must remove all racism from your speech and actions. Just a thought. Try going a day without blaming a white person. It feels great.
Btw, it's obvious that you either don't know how to research, are lazy, or are just too stupid to think for yourself. Google Sea Wolf. Actually, you don't have to b/c we've talked about why the Sea Wolf was cancelled.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=33440&p=724687&hil ... lf#p724687" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
Defense acquisition (in the major systems realm at least) is a political game, which is why the taxpayer rarely gets a good deal.
I was just reading a memo from my top acquisition boss in the Pentagon thumping his chest about reforms called Better Buying Power. He cited a victory in the acquisition of the new generation of Marine One helicopters. One of the big chest thumps was that they put a cap on development cost.
Hello. Was that really that hard to figure out?
Too bad the JSF program didn't get the memo.
I was just reading a memo from my top acquisition boss in the Pentagon thumping his chest about reforms called Better Buying Power. He cited a victory in the acquisition of the new generation of Marine One helicopters. One of the big chest thumps was that they put a cap on development cost.
Hello. Was that really that hard to figure out?
Too bad the JSF program didn't get the memo.
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The JSF93henfan wrote:Defense acquisition (in the major systems realm at least) is a political game, which is why the taxpayer rarely gets a good deal.
I was just reading a memo from my top acquisition boss in the Pentagon thumping his chest about reforms called Better Buying Power. He cited a victory in the acquisition of the new generation of Marine One helicopters. One of the big chest thumps was that they put a cap on development cost.
Hello. Was that really that hard to figure out?![]()
Too bad the JSF program didn't get the memo.
More Money wasted!!!!!!!!
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
Ibanez wrote:mrklean wrote:
Like I expected. The class of Attack Sub is a Billion dollar cheaper version of the Sea Wolf. The Sea Wolf Class cost 2.8 Billion to make. The Virginia Class cost 1.8 Billion. I have one question, what happenede to all of the Money put into R&D for the Sea Wolf. The Sea Wolf class project started in 1983. THis was supposed to be the next killer azz sub. Now you tell me its too expensive to maintain. I'm I the only ony here who thinks this was a waste of OUR money. You rednecks bitch about Obamacare, put you give this **** a pass. As long as you put it under defense, its fine to waste 10 billion dollars. But spend 10 billion dollars caring for the poor, and you have a heart attack. MUST BE A WHITE MALE THING![]()
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What's with the racism? And who is this "you" you keep talking about? It certainly isn't me. ANd you, being a god-fearing, honest man is certainly not stereotyping others. I mean, if you (klean) want racism to decline, then you must remove all racism from your speech and actions. Just a thought. Try going a day without blaming a white person. It feels great.![]()
Btw, it's obvious that you either don't know how to research, are lazy, or are just too stupid to think for yourself. Google Sea Wolf. Actually, you don't have to b/c we've talked about why the Sea Wolf was cancelled.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=33440&p=724687&hil ... lf#p724687" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
With all your great ideas, i'm SHOCKED the DoD doesn't have employed.
I did this to prove a point. Two other people who look at these boards asked me why You get on my case for saying things, but when other people say racist crap you say nothing. NOTHING!!!!! Thanks for proving my point. I told them that you would be the first to respond. Not too bad for a colored guy
BTW, you still can't answer my question. But I forgot, you work for the DOD. But to bitch about Obamacare!!!!!!!!!
Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
JSF is a headache.mrklean wrote:The JSF93henfan wrote:Defense acquisition (in the major systems realm at least) is a political game, which is why the taxpayer rarely gets a good deal.
I was just reading a memo from my top acquisition boss in the Pentagon thumping his chest about reforms called Better Buying Power. He cited a victory in the acquisition of the new generation of Marine One helicopters. One of the big chest thumps was that they put a cap on development cost.
Hello. Was that really that hard to figure out?![]()
Too bad the JSF program didn't get the memo.![]()
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More Money wasted!!!!!!!!
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
mrklean wrote:Ibanez wrote:
What's with the racism? And who is this "you" you keep talking about? It certainly isn't me. ANd you, being a god-fearing, honest man is certainly not stereotyping others. I mean, if you (klean) want racism to decline, then you must remove all racism from your speech and actions. Just a thought. Try going a day without blaming a white person. It feels great.![]()
Btw, it's obvious that you either don't know how to research, are lazy, or are just too stupid to think for yourself. Google Sea Wolf. Actually, you don't have to b/c we've talked about why the Sea Wolf was cancelled.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=33440&p=724687&hil ... lf#p724687" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
With all your great ideas, i'm SHOCKED the DoD doesn't have employed.
I did this to prove a point. Two other people who look at these boards asked me why You get on my case for saying things, but when other people say racist crap you say nothing. NOTHING!!!!! Thanks for proving my point. I told them that you would be the first to respond. Not too bad for a colored guy![]()
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BTW, you still can't answer my question. But I forgot, you work for the DOD. But to bitch about Obamacare!!!!!!!!!
1) You aren't making any sense. You're blinded by your hatred of me, which must be b/c I treat you like shit (which, you deserve b/c you act like a child)
2) I've answered your questions, multiple times. That'll be $300. However, just for fun please give me a bullet list of your questions.
3) I don't work for the DoD
4) Obamacare is as much as a boondoggle as the DoD
5) If you've paid attention on here (and I know you haven't) then you would know that i'm a proponent of spending more wisely and reducing our budget across the board
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
mrklean wrote:
I did this to prove a point. Two other people who look at these boards asked me why You get on my case for saying things, but when other people say racist crap you say nothing. NOTHING!!!!! Thanks for proving my point. I told them that you would be the first to respond. Not too bad for a colored guy![]()
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BTW, you still can't answer my question. But I forgot, you work for the DOD. But to bitch about Obamacare!!!!!!!!!
1) You must not see all the times that I call out Alphie, JSO and CitadelGrad for their racist comments. I do't expect you to. I don't surf CS for that shit. You and dal are the most vocal (followed closely by Alphie, JSO and CitGrad) about your racism.
2) I've answered your questions, multiple times. That'll be $300. However, just for fun please give me a bullet list of your questions.
3) I don't work for the DoD
4) The ACA is as much as a boondoggle as the DoD. It was rammed down our throats and even the Dems are distancing themselves from it.
5) If you've paid attention on here (and I know you haven't) then you would know that i'm a proponent of spending more wisely and reducing our budget across the board
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
Ibanez wrote:mrklean wrote:
I did this to prove a point. Two other people who look at these boards asked me why You get on my case for saying things, but when other people say racist crap you say nothing. NOTHING!!!!! Thanks for proving my point. I told them that you would be the first to respond. Not too bad for a colored guy![]()
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BTW, you still can't answer my question. But I forgot, you work for the DOD. But to bitch about Obamacare!!!!!!!!!
1) You aren't making any sense. You're blinded by your hatred of me, which must be b/c I treat you like **** (which, you deserve b/c you act like a child)
2) I've answered your questions, multiple times. That'll be $300. However, just for fun please give me a bullet list of your questions.
3) I don't work for the DoD
4) Obamacare is as much as a boondoggle as the DoD
5) If you've paid attention on here (and I know you haven't) then you would know that i'm a proponent of spending more wisely and reducing our budget across the board
You defend this type of waste
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
Lets spend another 50 Billion on the JSFIbanez wrote:
Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
I see you can't follow instructions. Again, you have not paid any attention. I don't defend wasteful spending. Who in their right mind would defend that?mrklean wrote:Ibanez wrote:
1) You aren't making any sense. You're blinded by your hatred of me, which must be b/c I treat you like **** (which, you deserve b/c you act like a child)
2) I've answered your questions, multiple times. That'll be $300. However, just for fun please give me a bullet list of your questions.
3) I don't work for the DoD
4) Obamacare is as much as a boondoggle as the DoD
5) If you've paid attention on here (and I know you haven't) then you would know that i'm a proponent of spending more wisely and reducing our budget across the board
You defend this type of wasteBut hey, its not your money, or is it?
Let's play a game, who here has eliminated over $100M from Navy projects between the years of 2007-2011. Raise your hand.
Some spending is necessary, most of it just needs to be done smartly. The difference between you and me is that you complain about spending (w/o understanding why it's being procured) or things that were cancelled 20 years ago (Sea Wolf). Congress is trying to buy more tanks against the advice of the Pentagon. Why haven't you said anything about that?
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
This comment doesn't make sense. Do you even understand the rational behind the JSF? Look up a few posts where I say the JSF is a headache. It's a mess. I worked on it for a year, it's a fucking mess.mrklean wrote:Lets spend another 50 Billion on the JSFIbanez wrote:Screw Obamacare, I need state of the art Fighters!!!!!
Let me ask YOU a question, do you think the ACA has room for improvement and should be tweaked? Or is it fine as it is?
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It can be changed about 40%. and I have always said this.Ibanez wrote:This comment doesn't make sense. Do you even understand the rational behind the JSF? Look up a few posts where I say the JSF is a headache. It's a mess. I worked on it for a year, it's a **** mess.mrklean wrote:
Lets spend another 50 Billion on the JSFScrew Obamacare, I need state of the art Fighters!!!!!
Let me ask YOU a question, do you think the ACA has room for improvement and should be tweaked? Or is it fine as it is?
Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
That sounds quite arbitrary. I agree that it needs to be changed. I am against the penalties (tax) for not signing up.mrklean wrote:It can be changed about 40%. and I have always said this.Ibanez wrote:
This comment doesn't make sense. Do you even understand the rational behind the JSF? Look up a few posts where I say the JSF is a headache. It's a mess. I worked on it for a year, it's a **** mess.
Let me ask YOU a question, do you think the ACA has room for improvement and should be tweaked? Or is it fine as it is?
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
Pentagon paid $150 per gallon for green jet fuel
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05 ... -jet-fuel/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1500 gallons of it.
Whoever authorized this incredibly stupid wanton waste ought to be fired..
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05 ... -jet-fuel/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1500 gallons of it.
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Re: The DOD just gave away more of your Money.
1,500 gallons isn't much. Was it being tested for R&D?BDKJMU wrote:Pentagon paid $150 per gallon for green jet fuel
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/05 ... -jet-fuel/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
1500 gallons of it.Whoever authorized this incredibly stupid wanton waste ought to be fired..
I don't like waste either, but R&D isn't a cheap game.
Ex. When I worked for NIST, one of my projects was construction of a Net Zero House for R&D. Needless to say, it cost a LOT more than a regular single family home.
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