MSNBC exposes Obama as a Poser

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Re: MSNBC exposes Obama as a Poser

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No, there are probably zero companies cutting people's hours below 30/week to avoid coverage under ACA. :coffee:
2) Those people will still be able to get healthcare and perhaps cheaper than under their employer plan.
Um, no. They will have lower income because their hours and been cut and every shred of evidence is that insurance costs are rising rapidly.

Your Subway sandwich artists ain't happy campers right now.
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I was being somewhat sarcastic, but according to the insurance broker I just met with regarding starting a company plan and my own private plan, group discounts have really been gone for quite some time now. I remember back in the 90's, my private plan premiums were less than my company plan and less than my bil's school district group plan.

As I've said before, Obamacare was written by insurance companies...FOR insurance companies. A **** ton of the high expenses involved in healthcare costs are wrapped up in unneccessary profit margins for insurance companies and inefficiencies of an overly complicated multi-payer system.

Insurance benefits should be a choice for employers, not a mandate.
The insurance companies will still find a way to take their 20% off the top and keep the seven-figure bonuses and Roman lifestyles for their parasitic executives. :coffee:
I guess the insurance industry lobbyists have more pull than the guys in the government doing the regulating. :coffee:
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ASUG8 wrote:
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The insurance companies will still find a way to take their 20% off the top and keep the seven-figure bonuses and Roman lifestyles for their parasitic executives. :coffee:
I guess the insurance industry lobbyists have more pull than the guys in the government doing the regulating. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
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I guess the insurance industry lobbyists have more pull than the guys in the government doing the regulating. :coffee:
Always have, always will...
They literally wrote the fucking legislation. :lol: :nod: :ohno:
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CitadelGrad wrote:
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2) Those people will still be able to get healthcare and perhaps cheaper than under their employer plan.
Um, no. They will have lower income because their hours and been cut and every shred of evidence is that insurance costs are rising rapidly.

Your Subway sandwich artists ain't happy campers right now.
You're making my point except their insurance costs will be subsidized, lower, and therefore insurance company profits will be subsidized. Comprende?

And again, fast food chains shouldn't be on the hook for providing their employees with insurance.
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houndawg wrote:
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I guess the insurance industry lobbyists have more pull than the guys in the government doing the regulating. :coffee:
Always have, always will...
But how can that be? Obama said the impact of lobbyists would be diminished in his administration more than any other before him. He said it, so it had to be true, right? :coffee:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... lobbyists/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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kalm wrote:Except nobody is really losing their coverage.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0[/youtube]
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kalm wrote:
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Um, no. They will have lower income because their hours and been cut and every shred of evidence is that insurance costs are rising rapidly.

Your Subway sandwich artists ain't happy campers right now.
You're making my point except their insurance costs will be subsidized, lower, and therefore insurance company profits will be subsidized. Comprende?
Subsidized by whom? There is no evidence that their costs will be lower even with subsidies. BTW, a subsidy is a cost to someone.
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kalm wrote:Except nobody is really losing their coverage.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0[/youtube]
Yep, conks are clearly confused about the definition of "losing". :lol:
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From the neighborhood Obama "organized" inner city Chicago

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Re: MSNBC exposes Obama as a Poser

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kalm wrote:
89Hen wrote: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0[/youtube]
Yep, conks are clearly confused about the definition of "losing". :lol:
I think if you take out the word "their" you may have a true statement.
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