Millions of Verizon phone records seized

[CID1990]

Pussies. Earlier Thur NY Times said: "The administration has now lost all credibility." Then Thur night they added "on this issue'

"Those reassurances have never been persuasive -- whether on secret warrants to scoop up a news agency's phone records or secret orders to kill an American suspected of terrorism -- especially coming from a president who once promised transparency and accountability. The administration has now lost all credibility."

The New York Times, overnight, amended the last line to say: "The administration has now lost all credibility on this issue."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06 ... edibility/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yep, that's the establishment media for you. And they pretty much gave Bush the same benefit of the doubt regarding Iraq, torture, the security state etc. What's also funny is that it was a progressive journalist that broke this story. And people like Greenwald and Midea Benjamin of Code Pink have been pretty damn consistent in their criticism of both administrations all along. Could you imagine a conk journalist or news man breaking a story like this on Bush? How about a conk activist heckling Bush at a presidential press conference?

Nice to see the establishment and conk medias jumping on the progressive bandwagon.

No, no American media outlets broke any if these stories. DoJ outed themselves, just as IRS did, in a ham handed attempt at preemptive damage control.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... a-Scandals" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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[kalm]

Yep, that's the establishment media for you. And they pretty much gave Bush the same benefit of the doubt regarding Iraq, torture, the security state etc. What's also funny is that it was a progressive journalist that broke this story. And people like Greenwald and Midea Benjamin of Code Pink have been pretty damn consistent in their criticism of both administrations all along. Could you imagine a conk journalist or news man breaking a story like this on Bush? How about a conk activist heckling Bush at a presidential press conference?

Nice to see the establishment and conk medias jumping on the progressive bandwagon.

No, no American media outlets broke any if these stories. DoJ outed themselves, just as IRS did, in a ham handed attempt at preemptive damage control.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... a-Scandals" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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I didn't say an American media outlet broke the story. But an American did. Not that it matters as the guardian and many news outlets are now international in scope with US sub-pages. My point still stands.

[BDKJMU]

Officials: NSA mistakenly intercepted emails, phone calls of innocent Americans
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/20 ... -americans" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mistakenly..

[CID1990]

No, no American media outlets broke any if these stories. DoJ outed themselves, just as IRS did, in a ham handed attempt at preemptive damage control.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... a-Scandals" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


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I didn't say an American media outlet broke the story. But an American did. Not that it matters as the guardian and many news outlets are now international in scope with US sub-pages. My point still stands.

No, you said it was a progressive journalist that broke the story. If running a story after the agency puts the info out there on its own is "breaking" a story, then the media is as soft headed as they are suspected of being.


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[kalm]

I didn't say an American media outlet broke the story. But an American did. Not that it matters as the guardian and many news outlets are now international in scope with US sub-pages. My point still stands.

No, you said it was a progressive journalist that broke the story. If running a story after the agency puts the info out there on its own is "breaking" a story, then the media is as soft headed as they are suspected of being.


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Huh? IIRC it was you who cited the Guardian as breaking the story. And as it turns out, the whistleblower Snowden approached Greenwald a couple of weeks before they went public with the leaked information.

As an aside, I wonder if the Obama administration will give Greenwald the "Assange" treatment.

[houndawg]

Fvck all of it.

Pussy ass Americans cause this ****, expecting presidents to "keep us safe". Fvck that.You have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than being killed in a terrorist attack. But every time some murder monkey kills somebody, the politicians make political hay and point fingers.

If there were less pussy ass Americans afraid of their own pussy shadows this **** wouldn't happen. Fvck


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I heard a lot of people saying that back when the Patriot Act was being shoved down our throat. They were not supporters of the previous administration.


I'm more than happy to take my chances with the "terrorists" in exchange for my civil liberties. But you and me both know that is fantasy and that from here on out it is all surveillance all the time for as the empire begins the slow decline to the place all empires go.

RIP USA. Most of 'em here are too young to know, but I knew you when you were the greatest country that had ever existed. We become more like our enemies every day, they win.

[CID1990]

No, you said it was a progressive journalist that broke the story. If running a story after the agency puts the info out there on its own is "breaking" a story, then the media is as soft headed as they are suspected of being.


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Huh? IIRC it was you who cited the Guardian as breaking the story. And as it turns out, the whistleblower Snowden approached Greenwald a couple of weeks before they went public with the leaked information.

As an aside, I wonder if the Obama administration will give Greenwald the "Assange" treatment.

That's right, Kalm. The point is that it was the foreign media that printed the story. The lapdog American media has long lost the ability to investigate things like this, especially when it would make a Democrat look bad. It was even spoon fed to the Guardian, and they aren't entirely off the hook.


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