Benedict XVI First Pope in 600 Years to Resign

[SDHornet]

Oh, yea, that makes sense.

If he appeals to low IQ people, why do you constantly reply to him? I may be a moran, but that sure seems like he appeals to you for some idiotic reason.

[griz37]

[YoUDeeMan]

When you lead an overthrow of a brutal authoritarian world-wide system of repressive government -- and do so without having one of your supporters fire a single shot -- talk to me.

Ronald Reagan sure was a cool dude.

Cripes, Joe, I am near your age and was well aware that the USSR was going to go bye-bye soon. It was just a matter of time as they were facing too many challenges from within. And, yes, I remember the Pope going to Poland - my neighbor and several of her friends were there at the time and we've discussed this subject. In fact, several neighbors lived under communism. But it wasn't God that saved them...it was the increasing lines of communication with the outside world.

It's late, but this is a good subject (except the nonsense about elvish invisibility cloaks).

[YoUDeeMan]

I'm texting my friend and he goes: "I'd quit too if my boss never showed up to work."

Don't ever leave this site, Infinityman.

[∞∞∞]

I'm texting my friend and he goes: "I'd quit too if my boss never showed up to work."

Don't ever leave this site, Infinityman.

No problem. As the greatest Delawarean once said, "Fuck you old people, I'm going to live forever!"

[YoUDeeMan]

Don't ever leave this site, Infinityman.

No problem. As the greatest Delawarean once said, "Fuck you old people, I'm going to live forever!"

I figured that...that's why you were unintentionally, yet unconsciously, left off psychoCAT's manifesto list.

Sorry about that.

However, no need to add the guy who will live forever to a list of people who will be protected.

[Seahawks08]

Do you know how it sounds when you asked questions like that?

You should read up on it. The Solidarity labor movement started in Poland as a direct result of the Pope's visit. That ultimately caused the fall of communism in Poland, and that movement spread to other Eastern European states.

I watched the event on TV, sometimes live, and it was remarkable what happened. Under the Communists in Poland, it was illegal to display both the flag of the Polish republic and the flag of the Catholic Church.

The Pope arrived in Poland in 1979 and began speaking in terms of challenging the secular authority's suppression of the church. As he spoke, a few of the outlawed flags appeared.

As his visit progressed, and he spoke elsewhere, more and more of the outlawed flags appeared -- growing defiance of the Communist government. Commentators on US TV remarked about the growing display of defiance, and expressed shock over what they were seeing. The people in Poland began to recognize they had the numbers on their side. At the pope's final mass, 500,000 people attended, despite the government's efforts to keep people away. This was being televised worldwide: tens of the thousands of the outlawed flags being waved in open defiance of the government. Television coverage was cut off.

The Soviets were infuriated by what they felt was the incompetence of their Polish puppets. Yuri Andropov, then head of the KGB, furiously declared the Pope was an enemy of the state. He thereafter collaborated with Bulgarian intelligence to arrange the assassination attempt on the Pope on May 13, 1981.

When I graduated college in 1984, the school honored Lech Walesa, the founder of the Solidarity labor movement, with an honorary degree. But Polish authorities would not let Walesa leave Poland to accept the award. The school awarded the degree anyway, despite never having honored anyone in abstentia before. At the ceremony, the school indicated that it decided to grant the award to Walesa in abstentia because it was clear that "Mr. Walesa will never be able to accept the award in person." So even five years into the movement, the government was still fighting the popular movement.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/05/20/nyreg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... entia.html

Once Communism collapsed in Poland, it began collapsing in other Soviet client states one after another, and eventually the Soviet leader, Gorbachev, realized there was no putting the genie back into the bottle.

The Soviets indicated that they would hand over power to a new constitutional government as of January 1, 1992. However, they managed to wrap up all business a week earlier, and ceded power a week early.

Deaf, godless communists to the end, they did not even realize their dramatic removal of the Hammer & Sickle flag from the top of the Kremlin for the last time, broadcast around the world, occurred on Christmas Day, 1991. The symbolism did not go unnoticed in the Christian West.

[93henfan]

Don't ever leave this site, Infinityman.

No problem. As the greatest Delawarean once said, "Fuck you old people, I'm going to live forever!"

I never said any such thing.

[grizzaholic]

No problem. As the greatest Delawarean once said, "Fuck you old people, I'm going to live forever!"

I figured that...that's why you were unintentionally, yet unconsciously, left off psychoCAT's manifesto list.

Sorry about that.

However, no need to add the guy who will live forever to a list of people who will be protected.

You do understand that you quoted Trip...right?

[grizzaholic]

No problem. As the greatest Delawarean once said, "Fuck you old people, I'm going to live forever!"

I never said any such thing.

He wasn't talking about you.

[93henfan]

I never said any such thing.

He wasn't talking about you.

[grizzaholic]

He wasn't talking about you.

If you could keep your racists posts to the JBB board please. That type of stuff isn't allowed around these parts.

[Vidav]

I was informed he resigned to take a post as a Penn State football coach.

[BDKJMU]

.......nevermind....

[JoltinJoe]

Do you know how it sounds when you asked questions like that?

You should read up on it. The Solidarity labor movement started in Poland as a direct result of the Pope's visit. That ultimately caused the fall of communism in Poland, and that movement spread to other Eastern European states.

I watched the event on TV, sometimes live, and it was remarkable what happened. Under the Communists in Poland, it was illegal to display both the flag of the Polish republic and the flag of the Catholic Church.

The Pope arrived in Poland in 1979 and began speaking in terms of challenging the secular authority's suppression of the church. As he spoke, a few of the outlawed flags appeared.

As his visit progressed, and he spoke elsewhere, more and more of the outlawed flags appeared -- growing defiance of the Communist government. Commentators on US TV remarked about the growing display of defiance, and expressed shock over what they were seeing. The people in Poland began to recognize they had the numbers on their side. At the pope's final mass, 500,000 people attended, despite the government's efforts to keep people away. This was being televised worldwide: tens of the thousands of the outlawed flags being waved in open defiance of the government. Television coverage was cut off.

The Soviets were infuriated by what they felt was the incompetence of their Polish puppets. Yuri Andropov, then head of the KGB, furiously declared the Pope was an enemy of the state. He thereafter collaborated with Bulgarian intelligence to arrange the assassination attempt on the Pope on May 13, 1981.

When I graduated college in 1984, the school honored Lech Walesa, the founder of the Solidarity labor movement, with an honorary degree. But Polish authorities would not let Walesa leave Poland to accept the award. The school awarded the degree anyway, despite never having honored anyone in abstentia before. At the ceremony, the school indicated that it decided to grant the award to Walesa in abstentia because it was clear that "Mr. Walesa will never be able to accept the award in person." So even five years into the movement, the government was still fighting the popular movement.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/05/20/nyreg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... entia.html

Once Communism collapsed in Poland, it began collapsing in other Soviet client states one after another, and eventually the Soviet leader, Gorbachev, realized there was no putting the genie back into the bottle.

The Soviets indicated that they would hand over power to a new constitutional government as of January 1, 1992. However, they managed to wrap up all business a week earlier, and ceded power a week early.

Deaf, godless communists to the end, they did not even realize their dramatic removal of the Hammer & Sickle flag from the top of the Kremlin for the last time, broadcast around the world, occurred on Christmas Day, 1991. The symbolism did not go unnoticed in the Christian West.

Send me your resume, dork.

Here is an article written by Lech Walesa in which he says 50% of the credit for the fall of the Berlin Wall belongs to Pope John Paul II. Of course, I'm sure what he says is "insanely stupid" even though Walesa was an actual history maker involved in these events:

http://en.mercopress.com/2009/11/10/the ... ohn-paul-i" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BTW, Wagner is a beautiful campus. I've often thought they should put a real college there.

[JoltinJoe]

Cluck, when Ronald Reagan decalred in 1983 that he believed the Soviet Union was a "bizarre" government whose last days in history were now bring written, he was ridiculed by the foreign policy pundits. They said Reagan really believed naively that the USSR was just going to go away, and his foreign policy toward the USSR was dangerous,, confrontational, and based on the naive assumption that the Soviet Union was just going to go away.

If you lived through this time, you know that there was never a prevailing feeling that the USSR was doomed and was going to go away. Even in 1983, the Soviets remained firmly in control of Eastern Europe.
Now, since you lived through this period, you will no doubt recall that, in the years immediately preceding these events, the common consensus was that the US was losing the Cold War to the USSR. The Carter Administration proved particularly weak in dealing with the USSR, and it was often noted that Carter changed the Nixon Adminsitration's policy of "detente" into a de facto policy of appeasement. Brezhnev is said to have regarded Carter as weak and pliable. So, again, prior to May 1979, there absolutely was no prevailing opinion that the Soviets were doomed.

You can ignore the comment about John Paul being preserved. I said that to annoy the stupid and the faithless here. But it is a fact that all other seminarians in his seminary were sent to concentration camps, and that he successfully hid from his would-be captors.

[D1B]

Cluck, when Ronald Reagan decalred in 1983 that he believed the Soviet Union was a "bizarre" government whose last days in history were now bring written, he was ridiculed by the foreign policy pundits. They said Reagan really believed naively that the USSR was just going to go away, and his foreign policy toward the USSR was dangerous,, confrontational, and based on the naive assumption that the Soviet Union was just going to go away.

If you lived through this time, you know that there was never a prevailing feeling that the USSR was doomed and was going to go away. Even in 1983, the Soviets remained firmly in control of Eastern Europe.
Now, since you lived through this period, you will no doubt recall that, in the years immediately preceding these events, the common consensus was that the US was losing the Cold War to the USSR. The Carter Administration proved particularly weak in dealing with the USSR, and it was often noted that Carter changed the Nixon Adminsitration's policy of "detente" into a de facto policy of appeasement. Brezhnev is said to have regarded Carter as weak and pliable. So, again, prior to May 1979, there absolutely was no prevailing opinion that the Soviets were doomed.

You can ignore the comment about John Paul being preserved. I said that to annoy the stupid and the faithless here. But it is a fact that all other seminarians in his seminary were sent to concentration camps, and that he successfully hid from his would-be captors.

Jeeze Joe, maybe you should look into getting your money back from Fordhumb?

[D1B]

Send me your resume, dork.

Here is an article written by Lech Walesa in which he says 50% of the credit for the fall of the Berlin Wall belongs to Pope John Paul II. Of course, I'm sure what he says is "insanely stupid" even though Walesa was an actual history maker involved in these events:

http://en.mercopress.com/2009/11/10/the ... ohn-paul-i" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BTW, Wagner is a beautiful campus. I've often thought they should put a real college there.

Joe, do you really want me and others to bombard you with a million scholarly sources citing economics, the USSR's crushing and demoralizing defeat in Afghanistan, and a changing world culture as the primary cause of the fall of communism?

USSR was a paper tiger and Reagan and the world knew it. They could barely feed their people for Christ sakes.

You really think the Soviet Union gave a fuck about anything from a pope?

[JoltinJoe]

Jeeze Joe, maybe you should look into getting your money back from Fordhumb?

Was a Presidential scholar. Paid nothing.

[JoltinJoe]

You really think the Soviet Union gave a **** about anything from a pope?

Yes, of course they did. They did try to assassinate him.

Why do you think they did that?

[D1B]

Jeeze Joe, maybe you should look into getting your money back from Fordhumb?

Was a Presidential scholar. Paid nothing.

You should sue em then.

[CAA Flagship]

Was a Presidential scholar. Paid nothing.

You should sue em then.

Now THAT'S funny.

[89Hen]

It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.

[CAA Flagship]

It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.

No joke. I'm Catholic and I don't care.

[89Hen]

It's amazing how many non-Catholics seem to care deeply about this. Good to see.

No joke. I'm Catholic and I don't care.

Would seem the non-Catholics are more interested.