It isn't so much the size of the banks per se, it's the fact that they're allowed to take depositors' money and bet it on risky investment packages. Reinstating Glass-Steagall would go a long ways towards correcting a lot of problems, IMO.89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
So you must be a proponent of TBTF, monopolies, and government intervention in markets then...interesting.Nope. Just like working for them.
Local banks and credit unions are good for some things. Low rates on mortgages isn't one of them.
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Painting big banks and the people that work for them as evil doesn't make for more competition. It's often funny that somebody who is insistant on working with a local lender doesn't realize their local lender is a correspondent lender who is selling the loan to BofA, Wells Fargo or Citi.kalm wrote:Hey, I cant blame a guy for making a buck, but I figure you for more of a pro-competition and less tax payer backed and subsidized rate kind of guy...at least politically. That's the main point of the linked rant after all.89Hen wrote:Nope. Just like working for them.
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Agreed. Reinstate Glass-Steagall and repeal Dodd-Frank.Grizalltheway wrote:It isn't so much the size of the banks per se, it's the fact that they're allowed to take depositors' money and bet it on risky investment packages. Reinstating Glass-Steagall would go a long ways towards correcting a lot of problems, IMO.89Hen wrote:Nope. Just like working for them.
Local banks and credit unions are good for some things. Low rates on mortgages isn't one of them.
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AZGrizFan wrote:repeal Dodd-Frank.

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Not to mention it's a gigantic pain in my ass on an almost daily basis.89Hen wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:repeal Dodd-Frank.![]()
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Knew it stunk like a dead fish the moment I read it.
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That too, but I didn't want to be selfish.AZGrizFan wrote:Not to mention it's a gigantic pain in my ass on an almost daily basis.89Hen wrote:![]()
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Knew it stunk like a dead fish the moment I read it.
BTW, I wonder how much the average consumer knows how much it hurt them.

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...under the guise of the "Consumer Financial Protection Bureau".89Hen wrote:That too, but I didn't want to be selfish.AZGrizFan wrote:
Not to mention it's a gigantic pain in my ass on an almost daily basis.
BTW, I wonder how much the average consumer knows how much it hurt them.
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They can't be evil, they're inanimate corporations...oh wait...89Hen wrote:Painting big banks and the people that work for them as evil doesn't make for more competition. It's often funny that somebody who is insistant on working with a local lender doesn't realize their local lender is a correspondent lender who is selling the loan to BofA, Wells Fargo or Citi.kalm wrote:
Hey, I cant blame a guy for making a buck, but I figure you for more of a pro-competition and less tax payer backed and subsidized rate kind of guy...at least politically. That's the main point of the linked rant after all.
Proper regulation, and allowing them to fail would help competition...and yes a few folks at the top should go to jail.
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AZGrizFan wrote:Agreed. Reinstate Glass-Steagall and repeal Dodd-Frank.Grizalltheway wrote:
It isn't so much the size of the banks per se, it's the fact that they're allowed to take depositors' money and bet it on risky investment packages. Reinstating Glass-Steagall would go a long ways towards correcting a lot of problems, IMO.
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Yes, but "proper regulation" is a tough nut. The real problem from what I can see is that legislators don't want any input from lenders when it comes to making the regulations. I'm sure they see it as a conflict of interest, which to some extent is true. BUT, if you don't consult lenders, you are going to pass regulations that don't work and have severe unintended consequences. Had Dodd-Frank consulted even Z or I, we could have had MUCH better regulations. I'm telling you, within 90 seconds of me reading what they were doing, I came up with several HUGE items that were going to be issues... and they are.kalm wrote:Proper regulation, and allowing them to fail would help competition...

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That makes sense. And I agree. It's almost like the legislators are unqualified at their jobs. A Kalm administration would appoint you and Z to Treasury.89Hen wrote:Yes, but "proper regulation" is a tough nut. The real problem from what I can see is that legislators don't want any input from lenders when it comes to making the regulations. I'm sure they see it as a conflict of interest, which to some extent is true. BUT, if you don't consult lenders, you are going to pass regulations that don't work and have severe unintended consequences. Had Dodd-Frank consulted even Z or I, we could have had MUCH better regulations. I'm telling you, within 90 seconds of me reading what they were doing, I came up with several HUGE items that were going to be issues... and they are.kalm wrote:Proper regulation, and allowing them to fail would help competition...
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89Hen wrote:Yes, but "proper regulation" is a tough nut. The real problem from what I can see is that legislators don't want any input from lenders when it comes to making the regulations. I'm sure they see it as a conflict of interest, which to some extent is true. BUT, if you don't consult lenders, you are going to pass regulations that don't work and have severe unintended consequences. Had Dodd-Frank consulted even Z or I, we could have had MUCH better regulations. I'm telling you, within 90 seconds of me reading what they were doing, I came up with several HUGE items that were going to be issues... and they are.kalm wrote:Proper regulation, and allowing them to fail would help competition...
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kalm wrote:It's almost like the legislators are unqualified at their jobs. A Kalm administration would appoint you and Z to Treasury.

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I'm sure I could find a position for you. Can you cure a trap hook?89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:It's almost like the legislators are unqualified at their jobs. A Kalm administration would appoint you and Z to Treasury.No. My expertise is limited to mortgage origination and maybe throw in how to fix a slice. I don't expect legislators to know much about mortgages, but they should know enough to get input from the right people.
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I can hit one.kalm wrote:I'm sure I could find a position for you. Can you cure a trap hook?89Hen wrote:No. My expertise is limited to mortgage origination and maybe throw in how to fix a slice. I don't expect legislators to know much about mortgages, but they should know enough to get input from the right people.

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He's right... Go to a mortgage broker who actually owns his company... that's where you will get your best deal because he can charge anything he wants. The Federal Reserve rule on originator compensation of April 2011 gave business owners (like me) a huge hammer.89Hen wrote:kalm wrote:
So you must be a proponent of TBTF, monopolies, and government intervention in markets then...interesting.Nope. Just like working for them.
Local banks and credit unions are good for some things. Low rates on mortgages isn't one of them.
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