JoltinJoe wrote:You mean the SNAP member armed with the latest talking points? Please.D1B wrote:
Well, in this case, a victim of Joe's church has finally come forward to shove a bible up Joe's ass.
The psychologist, Msgr. Stephen J. Rossetti, an advocate for the prevention of child abuse, said about 95 percent of allegations were well founded.
D1B wrote:Cap'n Cat wrote:
Don't know why I even open these anymore!
Well, in this case, a victim of Joe's church has finally come forward to shove a bible up Joe's ass.
Wow, I just noticed the NY Times took Rossetti's quote to the effect that he believed historically that 95% of all accusations were "well founded," and characterized it to suggest that he said that 95% of all accusations against the clergy of the church were well founded. What a rag that paper has become.D1B wrote:
New York Times
ROME — At an international conference backed by the Vatican to discuss the prevention of sexual abuse of minors by the clergy, a psychologist said Tuesday that the church should listen to victims rather than focus their attention on priests accused of wrongdoing.
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The psychologist, Msgr. Stephen J. Rossetti, an advocate for the prevention of child abuse, said about 95 percent of allegations were well founded.
“Child molesters must know that they have no safe sanctuary in our church,” he said in prepared remarks.
Monsignor Rossetti said he believed that church leaders — usually called on to deal with their own priests — should not handle such cases by themselves, but should consult legal and criminal experts to conduct investigations and advise bishops. All too often, offending priests have manipulated and lied to their superiors, he said.
But until now the Vatican has not embraced the notion of lay-review boards for pedophilia investigations, reaffirming bishops as the first arbiter in these cases. Last May, the Vatican, through its Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, called on bishops’ conferences worldwide to draft policies on the issue within the year.
Terence McKiernan, president of BishopAccountability.org , said the conference was intended to “change the subject and look like progress.”
“The Vatican is afraid, and it has reason to be,” he said, in light of recent charges against the church, including a complaint filed against the Vatican with the International Criminal Court.
As cases of abuse prominently emerged in North America and several European countries over the past decade, the church was often slow and clumsy in its reactions. The fallout pushed the Vatican to adopt new responses, including the symposium.
Marie Collins, who was abused by a priest while a patient in a Dublin children’s hospital when she was 13, told the delegates on Tuesday that even though many priests had been brought to justice for their crimes, the church needed to acknowledge the responsibility of their superiors. In many cases, she said, they covered up or mishandled cases.
“I can forgive my abuser for his actions; he has admitted his guilt,” she said. “But how do I regain my respect for the leadership of the church? There must be acknowledgment and accountability.”
There is a major distinction between between what he actually said and how the paper reported it.More excuses.JoltinJoe wrote:Wow, I just noticed the NY Times took Rossetti's quote to the effect that he believed historically that 95% of all accusations were "well founded," and characterized it to suggest that he said that 95% of all accusations against the clergy of the church were well founded. What a rag that paper has become.D1B wrote:
New York Times
Specifically, in the case of clergy, one allegation of abuse most likely means there are several victims, in some cases, hundreds.JoltinJoe wrote:Wow, I just noticed the NY Times took Rossetti's quote to the effect that he believed historically that 95% of all accusations were "well founded," and characterized it to suggest that he said that 95% of all accusations against the clergy of the church were well founded. What a rag that paper has become.D1B wrote:
New York Times
The catholic church has been providing a breeding ground for serial pedophiles, sexual predators and perverts for centuries (you are a dunce if you think this shit started in the 50's and 60's). If you wanted to fuck kids, especially boys, you became a catholic priest, plain and simple, because...I would urge all you catholics to thoroughly check out your priests. Ask for background checks and church records regarding their tenure as a priest. The church does not willingly release these record to its church members or to the public but you start demanding them, things may change. There are resources to help:
Unusual new abuse & cover up lawsuit is filed
Accused predator priest violated four boys in one family
The alleged crimes happened in Independence over two decades
WHAT:
For the first time, a KC area Catholic priest is being accused sexually violating four boys in one family, according to a new civil lawsuit. The case will be disclosed and discussed at a news conference today at which clergy sex abuse victims will also hold signs and childhood photos.
WHEN:
TODAY, Wednesday, Feb. 22, 1:30 p.m.
WHERE:
Outside the KC chancery (diocesan headquarters) 20 West Ninth Street (at Baltimore) in KC MO
WHO:
Two child sex abuse victims who belong to a support group called SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAPnetwork.org), including a St. Louis man who is the organization's long-time director
WHY:
A new civil lawsuit charges that Fr. John Tulipana sexually assaulted four boys (ranging in age from 10 - 16) in one family in/around St. Catherine’s parish between roughly 1976 and 1992. Most of the alleged crimes happened between 1979-81, sometimes on camping and fishing trips and sometimes at the family’s home. Some of the boys repressed the memories of the abuse, according to the suit.
Tulipana left active ministry in the mid-1990s because of credible abuse allegations.
In 1989, Richard Durocher told church officials Tulipana had abused him as a child. (*First, shut em up)The diocese gave him $150,000 but demanded that he sign a “gag order” preventing him from discussing the abuse. Durocher was promised that Tulipana would receive therapy and children would be protected. (*Next, hope they forget) But Tulipana was allowed to stay in active ministry with access to kids. In 1994, Durocher broke his silence, the KC Star wrote about the case, and Tulipana resigned. (*Come clean only after the media get's involved) Since then, the diocese has admitted that others have come forward with sex abuse charges and they have settled with at least “several” of them.
(*more hush money)
(*Joe, I bet those were the only four victims, right?)
Tulipana was ordained in 1972 and worked in at least eight parishes including Independence (Nativity of Mary), Grandview (Coronation of Our Lady), Clinton (Holy Rosary), and Kansas City (St. Catherine's at 4101 E. 105th Terrace; St. Augustine's at 7801 the Paseo; Christ the King at 85th Street & Wornall Road; Holy Trinity at 934 Norton Ave., and, in the mid-1990s, at the Cathedral of Immaculate Conception). He also taught at the University of Dallas.
(*No justice served, no accountability for the church)
Tulipana is believed to be in his mid- 60s, working as an insurance agent, and living at 301 S. Shrank in Independence. A photo of Tulipana is available at http://bishop-accountability.org/member/psearch.jsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
(*They all knew. This shit is hard to hide.)
According to 2010 lawsuit “multiple priests and lay persons (knew) that Tulipana (and another priest, Fr. Thomas Cronin) were sexually abusing children, providing liquor to children and spending inordinate amounts of time with children.” http://www.bishop-accountability.org/ne ... riests.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(*No shit they aided and abetted)
That suit also says that the KC diocese “aided and abetted” Cronin and Tulipana “by moving the priests from church to church following reports of his sexual abuse of minors,” by forcing the victims to be silent by representing that the priests were in good standing.
The new suit seeks unspecified damages and is filed in Jackson County Circuit Court.
SNAP worries that others who have been hurt by Fr. Tulipana may still be “suffering in shame, isolation and self blame” and want Catholic officials to “aggressively reach out to others in pain.”
KC attorney Rebecca Randles represents the victim. KC lawyer Jon Haden represents the diocese (which is also named as a defendant.) SNAP doesn’t know if Tulipana has a lawyer.
Earlier this month, similar suits were filed against two other KC priests – Fr. Thomas Ford (who hadn’t been publicly accused of abuse before) and Fr. James Urbanic (who was suspended from active ministry at Sacred Heart parish in Warrensburg last summer).
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CONTACT:
David Clohessy of St. Louis, SNAP Executive Director (314) 566 9790, SNAPclohessy@aol.com, Barb Dorris of St. Louis, SNAP Outreach Director (314) 503 0003, SNAPdorris@gmail.com,
