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bluehenbillk wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:Problems with Huntsman:

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Positive for Huntsman: He has just released an economic plan that is receiving praise from conservative circles:

Republican Presidential candidate and former Utah Governor Jon Huntsman is lagging in the polls, but the economic agenda he rolled out this week may start getting him more attention. And deservedly so.

The heart of the plan lowers all tax rates on individuals and businesses. Mr. Huntsman would create three personal income tax rates—8%, 14% and 23%—and pay for this in a "revenue-neutral" way by eliminating "all deductions and credits." This tracks with the proposals of the bipartisan Bowles-Simpson commission and others for a flatter, more efficient tax system.

That means economically inefficient tax carve outs for mortgage interest, municipal bonds, child credits and green energy subsidies would at last be closed. The double tax on capital gains and dividends would be expunged as would the Alternative Minimum Tax. The corporate tax rate falls to 25% from 35%, and American businesses would be taxed on a territorial system to encourage firms to return capital parked in overseas operations.

Mr. Huntsman would repeal two of President Obama's most economically debilitating creations, ObamaCare and the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law. Mr. Huntsman has it right when he says, "Dodd-Frank perpetuates 'too big to fail' by codifying a regime that incentivizes firms to become too big to fail." He'd also repeal a Bush-era regulatory mistake, the Sarbanes-Oxley accounting rules, which have added millions of dollars of costs to businesses with little positive effect.

Mr. Huntsman says he'd also bring to heel the hyper-regulators at the Environmental Protection Agency, Food and Drug Administration and the National Labor Relations Board, all of which are suppressing job-creation. The Huntsman energy policy promises to block impediments to producing oil in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska (see editorial above), while encouraging the safe deployment of fracking for natural gas in the states. Mr. Huntsman dabbled with green energy subsidies as Governor when those were the political fashion, but perhaps he's learned watching the failures of the last two years.

Mr. Huntsman's proposal is as impressive as any to date in the GOP Presidential field, and certainly better than what we've seen from the front-runners. Perhaps Mr. Huntsman should be asked to give the Republican response to the President's jobs speech next week. The two views of what makes an economy grow could not be more different.
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Would I vote for Huntsman in the Republican primary? No. Would I vote for him over Obama? Does a Bear sh*t in the woods?

Thanks for recapping some of the really good things about Huntsman. I think he did OK last night in the debate but needs to separate or distinguish himself more from Perry & Romney than he has so far. I like everything he says up here except the "drill baby drill" crap which has to stop. Thimking we can "out-oil" the Middle East is not the right plan. The right plan is how can we convert cars to run on natural resources we do have in abundance like natural gas or electricity and you can cut the Middle East all friggin together. But that would be pissong off Big Oil which owns the GOP.
Nothing wrong with going for all that oil that sits in a speck of bare frozen tundra of mud as rock up in Alaska that a bunch of enviros back in the day named ANWR. Nothing wrong with exploring outside of 50 miles of both coasts. Nothing wrong with going after the abundance of oil in the tar sands or the abundance of natty gas in shale. Drill Baby Drill won't eliminate US dependence on 40% foreign oil (majority of which is from Canadad, Mex, and Hugo Chavez land, not the Middle East) but it could lesson it while at the same time:
-helping to keep prices as rising as high as they otherwise would
-providing hundreds of thousands of JOBS
-providing the govt and states with tens of billions in increased lease, royalty, and tax revenue.

That is a win, win, win. Kudos to Huntsman on that.

I said I wouldn't vote for Huntsman in the Repub primary. I take that back. MAYBE I would vote for him. Still haven't decided. Probably moot since by the time the primary reaches PA, nominee will be all but decided.
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Huntsman is the only one I like so far & the only one IMO that is offering up any decent ideas. Perry & Romney, I don't get a good feeling about either.
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polsongrizz wrote: 10. The earth is 7,000 years old. There is no official statement by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints about the age of the earth, but many Mormons (and many Christians of some sects) believe that the age of the earth is on the order of thousands of years rather than billions calculated by widely accepted scientific methods.

9. Mars and Venus have dry rivers. The dry rivers on Mars and Venus were the source of the flowing rivers on earth. The theory is that the dry rivers on Mars and Venus \”match\” the rivers on Earth and that proves that all three planets were organized from the same source.

8. Dinosaur bones come from other planets. LDS Church Institute instructors teach that fossilized dinosaur bones are from creatures that lived on other worlds that were destroyed in the creation of the earth.

7. Mormon scripture teaches that Cain, who killed his brother Abel, was so evil that God \”cursed\” him with black skin, thus creating the African race. In a related belief, though the LDS church has deemed any worthy male to be part of the priesthood, black males were not recognized in this capacity until 1978.

6. In cases of the sin of murder, the murder of the sinner and the mixing of his blood with the earth bring forgiveness. In 1977 after the U.S. Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty, Gary Gilmore chose to be executed by firing squad in Utah due to his belief in blood atonement.

5. In 1960, The Prophet Spencer W. Kimball taught that when Native Americans become Mormons their skin turns white. He said \”The [Indian] children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.\”

4. Also on the subject of Native Americans, the preface to the Book of Mormon from 1981 indicates that descendents of Lehi are a \”remnant of the House of Israel\” and were ancestors to American Indians. However, the DNA of Native Americans indicates an Asian origin.

3. When a marriage is sealed in the Temple, a husband can know his wife\’s celestial name, but she cannot know his. This is so that if he so chooses, he can resurrect her after her death by calling her celestial name.

2. Mormons believe that after the resurrection, Jesus visited America and there he performed miracles and taught.

1. Kolub is a star mentioned in the Book of Abraham as being closest to the throne of God. The Book of Abraham is canonized by the LDS church, Mormon fundamentalist organizations, and other LDS sects. Kolub inspired \”Kobol\” in Mormon Glen A. Larson\’s Battlestar Galactica universe.

Add to that that they go through every obituary page they can and baptize the dead into their church.
Got a link for all this drivel?

Here, in a nutshell, and in a form all can understand. :rofl:

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And with a little humor tossed in-

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Wedgebuster wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Got a link for all this drivel?

Here, in a nutshell, and in a form all can understand. :rofl:

[youtube][/youtube]

And with a little humor tossed in-

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/1 ... ith-part-1
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Ivytalk wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:

Here, in a nutshell, and in a form all can understand. :rofl:

[youtube][/youtube]

And with a little humor tossed in-

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/1 ... ith-part-1
"Endless celestial sex?" Where can I sign up? :nod: :clap:
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Ivytalk wrote:
Wedgebuster wrote:

Here, in a nutshell, and in a form all can understand. :rofl:

[youtube][/youtube]

And with a little humor tossed in-

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/1 ... ith-part-1
"Endless celestial sex?" Where can I sign up? :nod: :clap:
Get on the next flight to SLC! :bananahump:
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