Culture Wars

[kalm]

Hegseth torches identity politics in West Point speech: ‘Can’t throw your pronouns at the enemy’

“The battlefield does not grade on a curve, and you can’t throw your pronouns at the enemy,” Hegseth told the cadets. “Combat is the ultimate test, and our best Americans must ace it.”

The Pentagon chief also decried “woke and weak leaders” for attempting to transform the military academy into “woke Princeton,” his alma mater.

Throwing your bible at the enemy isn't very effective either, Whiskeyleaks.

Let's hear you decry the over-zealous, self-righteous and weak leaders attempting to transform the military into an evangelical crusader force.

Great response!

[kalm]

[Pwns]

People that say this stuff would be legitimately surprised how many people come out of school believing the noble savage myth or that white people invented slavery or conquering and pillaging. There's literally some people in academia that don't know this.

Identity politics is a scourge and was devised to try and keep people from challenging the economic system.

[BDKJMU]

In most states outside the northeast it’s sheriffs who are the main law enforcement in counties. It’s usually sheriffs who refuse to enforce these unconstitutional anti 2A bans on modern sporting rifles, what the left like to call ‘assault weapons.’ But sometimes it’s DAs. It take both willing to enforce for it to be enforced. Kudos to the marine vet DA in Spotsylvania Co, VA, the county I grew up in.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exclus ... weapon-ban

[Caribbean Hen]

Over 1/2 of Americans are invested in the market in one way or the other.

It’s not the govt‘s responsibility to support irresponsibility or stupid. But don‘t worry, even though there‘s more of a chance of the govt stopping to do that than there is for your fantasy of no billionaires, neither is going to happen.

Again…unrealistic. What happens when people reach retirement age without enough savings or investments to see them through to the finish line?

What happens to kids when their parents tell them how to avoid these problems when they’re a teenager?

Get a job or two
Save money

If you want (here it is come and get it) earn it

College right after high school is not necessarily the answer for a lot of kids

Learn a trade

Visiting the recruiting office can solve a lot and it doesn’t have to be the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines…..

And to all of those Veterans out there who served their country, most American still greatly appreciate everything that you did for us

Thank you!

[kalm]

People that say this stuff would be legitimately surprised how many people come out of school believing the noble savage myth or that white people invented slavery or conquering and pillaging. There's literally some people in academia that don't know this.

Identity politics is a scourge and was devised to try and keep people from challenging the economic system.

This diminishes the role whites played in slavery. Woke as a pejorative is itself a form of identity politics. Freedom supercedes economics.

[kalm]

Again…unrealistic. What happens when people reach retirement age without enough savings or investments to see them through to the finish line?

What happens to kids when their parents tell them how to avoid these problems when they’re a teenager?

Get a job or two
Save money

If you want (here it is come and get it) earn it

College right after high school is not necessarily the answer for a lot of kids

Learn a trade

Visiting the recruiting office can solve a lot and it doesn’t have to be the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines…..

And to all of those Veterans out there who served their country, most American still greatly appreciate everything that you did for us

Thank you!

Parents, schools, and culture often fail our youth. It’s not a simple explanation.

Agree on the trades. In fact I think 2 years of compulsory national service be it military, CCC type programs, or peace corps would be a great thing before choosing academia or the trades.

[Caribbean Hen]

What happens to kids when their parents tell them how to avoid these problems when they’re a teenager?

Get a job or two
Save money

If you want (here it is come and get it) earn it

College right after high school is not necessarily the answer for a lot of kids

Learn a trade

Visiting the recruiting office can solve a lot and it doesn’t have to be the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines…..

And to all of those Veterans out there who served their country, most American still greatly appreciate everything that you did for us

Thank you!

Parents, schools, and culture often fail our youth. It’s not a simple explanation.

Agree on the trades. In fact I think 2 years of compulsory national service be it military, CCC type programs, or peace corps would be a great thing before choosing academia or the trades.

I like your last paragraph but I would just say if you earn the right to go to college while you’re in high school, you can go to college even before high school is over and definitely after high school is over

It’s just that we kept telling kids you have to go to college and we put them in worthless fields with no future and no income, not to mention that a lot of those kids had no business in college anyway

[Pwns]

People that say this stuff would be legitimately surprised how many people come out of school believing the noble savage myth or that white people invented slavery or conquering and pillaging. There's literally some people in academia that don't know this.

Identity politics is a scourge and was devised to try and keep people from challenging the economic system.

This diminishes the role whites played in slavery. Woke as a pejorative is itself a form of identity politics. Freedom supercedes economics.

Not really. It's a way calling out identity politics. It's absolutely an overused word, but there's no white identity politics equivalent of making shoplifting under a certain value not a felony or getting rid of Algebra I for eighth graders in the name of "equity".

And let's be real, the idea the people brought across the Atlantic on slave ships were just people living in harmony with nature. The African kings made money off the trade.

[kalm]

Parents, schools, and culture often fail our youth. It’s not a simple explanation.

Agree on the trades. In fact I think 2 years of compulsory national service be it military, CCC type programs, or peace corps would be a great thing before choosing academia or the trades.

I like your last paragraph but I would just say if you earn the right to go to college while you’re in high school, you can go to college even before high school is over and definitely after high school is over

It’s just that we kept telling kids you have to go to college and we put them in worthless fields with no future and no income, not to mention that a lot of those kids had no business in college anyway

Agreed.

[kalm]

This diminishes the role whites played in slavery. Woke as a pejorative is itself a form of identity politics. Freedom supercedes economics.

Not really. It's a way calling out identity politics. It's absolutely an overused word, but there's no white identity politics equivalent of making shoplifting under a certain value not a felony or getting rid of Algebra I for eighth graders in the name of "equity".

And let's be real, the idea the people brought across the Atlantic on slave ships were just people living in harmony with nature. The African kings made money off the trade.

I’m not sure what you’re driving at other than a thinly veiled justification of slavery and racism.

[Pwns]

Conquering, pillaging, and subjugation was the way of the world for a long time. But instead of that being a lesson from history, a lot of what gets taught is a history is a version where white people are the primary antagonists. I lived in a more conservative part of the country and that's largely what I got from education. And a lot of the mythology causes noxious and divisive policies like DEI that say your childhood material well being is less important than how well of your ancestors were 200 years ago.

No one really wants you to not teach that slavery never existed. That's a straw-man.

[UNI88]

Conquering, pillaging, and subjugation was the way of the world for a long time. But instead of that being a lesson from history, a lot of what gets taught is a history is a version where white people are the primary antagonists. I lived in a more conservative part of the country and that's largely what I got from education. And a lot of the mythology causes noxious and divisive policies like DEI that say your childhood material well being is less important than how well of your ancestors were 200 years ago.

No one really wants you to not teach that slavery never existed. That's a straw-man.

Why ban Roots?

I have no problem with telling the entire story of American slavery - that black Africans sold other blacks to white slavers, that slaves were brought to the US and they and their descendants were enslaved for generations. That after slavery ended, blacks were oppressed (Jim Crow, KKK, redlining, etc.) for centuries. That diversity initiatives are meant to make up for centuries of slavery and oppression. That those diversity initiatives could be considered discriminatory but they haven't been around long enough to have eliminated racism or made up for impact of centuries of oppression.

[BDKJMU]

In most states outside the northeast it’s sheriffs who are the main law enforcement in counties. It’s usually sheriffs who refuse to enforce these unconstitutional anti 2A bans on modern sporting rifles, what the left like to call ‘assault weapons.’ But sometimes it’s DAs. It take both willing to enforce for it to be enforced. Kudos to the marine vet DA in Spotsylvania Co, VA, the county I grew up in.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/exclus ... weapon-ban

Other red county DAs jumping on board-
5 now saying they won’t enforce: In addition to Spotsylvania, Smyth, Powhatan, Pulaski, Scott.

Amherst & Campbell county sheriffs saying they won’t enforce.

[kalm]

Conquering, pillaging, and subjugation was the way of the world for a long time. But instead of that being a lesson from history, a lot of what gets taught is a history is a version where white people are the primary antagonists. I lived in a more conservative part of the country and that's largely what I got from education. And a lot of the mythology causes noxious and divisive policies like DEI that say your childhood material well being is less important than how well of your ancestors were 200 years ago.

No one really wants you to not teach that slavery never existed. That's a straw-man.

As a white man, I’ve never felt guilty or insecure about the role white people have played in slavery and racism. It’s a part of history that sets back our country to this day. Nor do I have an issue with teaching other instances of it elsewhere.

Complaining about DEI and wokism are examples of why we still have much to learn collectively.

(Oops! Collectively cones from collective which is one step away from socialism. My bad)

[Pwns]

Conquering, pillaging, and subjugation was the way of the world for a long time. But instead of that being a lesson from history, a lot of what gets taught is a history is a version where white people are the primary antagonists. I lived in a more conservative part of the country and that's largely what I got from education. And a lot of the mythology causes noxious and divisive policies like DEI that say your childhood material well being is less important than how well of your ancestors were 200 years ago.

No one really wants you to not teach that slavery never existed. That's a straw-man.

As a white man, I’ve never felt guilty or insecure about the role white people have played in slavery and racism. It’s a part of history that sets back our country to this day. Nor do I have an issue with teaching other instances of it elsewhere.

Complaining about DEI and wokism are examples of why we still have much to learn collectively.

(Oops! Collectively cones from collective which is one step away from socialism. My bad)

Hey kalm, you consider yourself post-partisan. Have you ever considered you could be wrong about DEI?

You literally have to believe that the schools you went to and your childhood material well-being matter less than whether your ancestors were slaves or lived under segregation. Completely moronic. But we can let knowledge decide who gets into college or who gets the job so connections don't matter, right? Well, no, pro-DEI people think all tests of knowledge or aptitude (from the SAT to the FAA's Air Traffic Controller Exams) are inherently racist. We literally ascribe Jewish high achievement to culture but want to blame ancient history whenever a group falls below the average we blame things that didn't happen within any living person's life time.

[UNI88]

As a white man, I’ve never felt guilty or insecure about the role white people have played in slavery and racism. It’s a part of history that sets back our country to this day. Nor do I have an issue with teaching other instances of it elsewhere.

Complaining about DEI and wokism are examples of why we still have much to learn collectively.

(Oops! Collectively cones from collective which is one step away from socialism. My bad)

Hey kalm, you consider yourself post-partisan. Have you ever considered you could be wrong about DEI?

You literally have to believe that the schools you went to and your childhood material well-being matter less than whether your ancestors were slaves or lived under segregation. Completely moronic. But we can let knowledge decide who gets into college or who gets the job so connections don't matter, right? Well, no, pro-DEI people think all tests of knowledge or aptitude (from the SAT to the FAA's Air Traffic Controller Exams) are inherently racist. We literally ascribe Jewish high achievement to culture but want to blame ancient history whenever a group falls below the average we blame things that didn't happen within any living person's life time.

You don't think that centuries of slavery and oppression (Jim Crow, KKK, redlining, etc.) of blacks has impacted their culture, their situation and their opportunities? Read "The Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein. Do we as a nation have zero responsibility for the actions of our predecessors?

Yes, DEI could be considered discriminatory but it and affirmative action haven't been around long enough to have made up for the impact of centuries of slavery and oppression.

Do I think we should be lowering standards for air traffic controllers, firemen, etc? No. I also don't have a problem with diversity being used as a tie-breaker. And I say this as a middle-aged white male who has missed out on opportunities because of affirmative action efforts.

[kalm]

As a white man, I’ve never felt guilty or insecure about the role white people have played in slavery and racism. It’s a part of history that sets back our country to this day. Nor do I have an issue with teaching other instances of it elsewhere.

Complaining about DEI and wokism are examples of why we still have much to learn collectively.

(Oops! Collectively cones from collective which is one step away from socialism. My bad)

Hey kalm, you consider yourself post-partisan. Have you ever considered you could be wrong about DEI?

You literally have to believe that the schools you went to and your childhood material well-being matter less than whether your ancestors were slaves or lived under segregation. Completely moronic. But we can let knowledge decide who gets into college or who gets the job so connections don't matter, right? Well, no, pro-DEI people think all tests of knowledge or aptitude (from the SAT to the FAA's Air Traffic Controller Exams) are inherently racist. We literally ascribe Jewish high achievement to culture but want to blame ancient history whenever a group falls below the average we blame things that didn't happen within any living person's life time.

I’m sorry but my childhood education and well being were not hampered in the least by learning history of the slave trade and racism. Heck…there were even things like enshrining Columbus that were flawed.

All “pro-DEI people” think in the way you accuse? DEI like all things has parts that are imperfect. But as a white guy of privilege I’m nothing but grateful for my idyllic childhood and later ease of advancement throughout my career. To create and support opportunity for the less fortunate is simply the right thing to do. And it works. A stronger and more diverse middle class benefits us all from the working poor to billionaires. (Though they’re to dumb and economically illiterate to see it)

[Caribbean Hen]

Hey kalm, you consider yourself post-partisan. Have you ever considered you could be wrong about DEI?

You literally have to believe that the schools you went to and your childhood material well-being matter less than whether your ancestors were slaves or lived under segregation. Completely moronic. But we can let knowledge decide who gets into college or who gets the job so connections don't matter, right? Well, no, pro-DEI people think all tests of knowledge or aptitude (from the SAT to the FAA's Air Traffic Controller Exams) are inherently racist. We literally ascribe Jewish high achievement to culture but want to blame ancient history whenever a group falls below the average we blame things that didn't happen within any living person's life time.

You don't think that centuries of slavery and oppression (Jim Crow, KKK, redlining, etc.) of blacks has impacted their culture, their situation and their opportunities? Read "The Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein. Do we as a nation have zero responsibility for the actions of our predecessors?

Yes, DEI could be considered discriminatory but it and affirmative action haven't been around long enough to have made up for the impact of centuries of slavery and oppression.

Do I think we should be lowering standards for air traffic controllers, firemen, etc? No. I also don't have a problem with diversity being used as a tie-breaker. And I say this as a middle-aged white male who has missed out on opportunities because of affirmative action efforts.

It certainly did

The right balance on how to apply DEI has escaped us though

However at some point, blacks in general are gonna have to pick up their game in this country.

I’m pulling for them but when all the media will show are the race Baiters like Al Sharpton, instead of the intellects like Thomas Sowell, that tells you everything you need to know

[UNI88]

You don't think that centuries of slavery and oppression (Jim Crow, KKK, redlining, etc.) of blacks has impacted their culture, their situation and their opportunities? Read "The Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein. Do we as a nation have zero responsibility for the actions of our predecessors?

Yes, DEI could be considered discriminatory but it and affirmative action haven't been around long enough to have made up for the impact of centuries of slavery and oppression.

Do I think we should be lowering standards for air traffic controllers, firemen, etc? No. I also don't have a problem with diversity being used as a tie-breaker. And I say this as a middle-aged white male who has missed out on opportunities because of affirmative action efforts.

It certainly did

The right balance on how to apply DEI has escaped us though

However at some point, blacks in general are gonna have to pick up their game in this country.

I’m pulling for them but when all the media will show are the race Baiters like Al Sharpton and Thomas Sowell, instead of the intellects like Neil deGrasse Tyson, that tells you everything you need to know

FYP

Progressives don't know how to balance DEI just like MAQA doesn't know how to balance religion.

[BDKJMU]

Conquering, pillaging, and subjugation was the way of the world for a long time. But instead of that being a lesson from history, a lot of what gets taught is a history is a version where white people are the primary antagonists. I lived in a more conservative part of the country and that's largely what I got from education. And a lot of the mythology causes noxious and divisive policies like DEI that say your childhood material well being is less important than how well of your ancestors were 200 years ago.

No one really wants you to not teach that slavery never existed. That's a straw-man.

As a white man, I’ve never felt guilty or insecure about the role white people have played in slavery and racism. It’s a part of history that sets back our country to this day. Nor do I have an issue with teaching other instances of it elsewhere.

Complaining about DEI and wokism are examples of why we still have much to learn collectively.

(Oops! Collectively cones from collective which is one step away from socialism. My bad)

As a white man, I’ve never felt any guilt, sorrow, or responsibility for anything white people did before I was born.

[kalm]

As a white man, I’ve never felt guilty or insecure about the role white people have played in slavery and racism. It’s a part of history that sets back our country to this day. Nor do I have an issue with teaching other instances of it elsewhere.

Complaining about DEI and wokism are examples of why we still have much to learn collectively.

(Oops! Collectively cones from collective which is one step away from socialism. My bad)

As a white man, I’ve never felt any guilt, sorrow, or responsibility for anything white people did before I was born.

Me neither. But I do think it’s sad, worthy of empathy, and a simple thing we can atone for.

[BDKJMU]

As a white man, I’ve never felt any guilt, sorrow, or responsibility for anything white people did before I was born.

Me neither. But I do think it’s sad, worthy of empathy, and a simple thing we can atone for.

What is this ‘we’ shit? Nothing I need to atone for.

[Caribbean Hen]

It certainly did

The right balance on how to apply DEI has escaped us though

However at some point, blacks in general are gonna have to pick up their game in this country.

I’m pulling for them but when all the media will show are the race Baiters like Al Sharpton and Thomas Sowell, instead of the intellects like Neil deGrasse Tyson, that tells you everything you need to know

FYP

Progressives don't know how to balance DEI just like MAQA doesn't know how to balance religion.

Degrasse is all over the lefty media….


Why has Thomas Sowell come across as a racist to you?

[UNI88]

FYP

Progressives don't know how to balance DEI just like MAQA doesn't know how to balance religion.

Degrasse it all over the lefty media

Why has Thomas Sowell come across as a racist to you?

Who cares if deGrasse Tyson is "all over lefty media"? He's an intellectual giant compared to tommy sowell.