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kalm wrote: Thu Feb 19, 2026 6:59 am
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Do you remember when clueless Joe Bozo would brag about his pathetic economy? And then in November of 2024 the voters reminded him that he was a natural born liar

Translation - the Joe Biden economy was not very good, but despite that, he touted it every day like it was awesome. He thought Americans were too dumb and would believe him, but on Election Day, the voters reminded Joey he was a lying hack because it’s always about the economy.
Biden is no longer President and if his economy was not very good (I don’t necessarily disagree btw) Trump’s economy should have nowhere to go but up?

Manufacturing jobs are down, general job growth is down, consumer confidence is down, debt is rising, new tariff policy has cost the average household over $1000. How do those voters feel today?
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2026/ ... uary-2026/

U.S. businesses went on a hiring spree in February, the latest data from payroll processor ADP shows.

Private sector employers added 63,000 workers, a big rebound from the mere 11,000 in ADP’s revised January estimate. Economists had forecast 43,000 jobs added in the month.

This was the strongest hiring in the private sector in seven months, according to ADP’s data.

“We’ve seen an increase in hiring and pay gains remain solid, especially for job-stayers,” said ADP chief economist Nela Richardson.

Annual pay is up 4.5 percent for workers who have stayed in their jobs. The biggest pay gains for job stayers came in finance, where pay is up 5.2 percent, and manufacturing, where wages are up 4.9 percent. Construction workers saw a 4.7 percent gain and leisure and hospitality a 4.6 percent increase. The slowest pay gains were in information technology, where pay is up four percent.

Workers who have switched jobs have seen their pay rise 6.3 percent.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 7:52 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:51 pm

This is not a new trend

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Looks like that could be another accomplishment for Obama.
It's an accomplishment for fracking. Obama was never a fan of fracking and did what he could to forestall it, but fortunately the reach of the government under Obama couldn't get to all the private fracking sites. It was a real energy revolution in this country and the government had little to do it.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:55 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 7:52 am
Looks like that could be another accomplishment for Obama.
It's an accomplishment for fracking. Obama was never a fan of fracking and did what he could to forestall it, but fortunately the reach of the government under Obama couldn't get to all the private fracking sites. It was a real energy revolution in this country and the government had little to do it.
Using the trump methodology, if a good thing happened during Obama's presidency, he gets credit for it. If a bad thing happened, it was Dubya's fault.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 10:56 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:55 am

It's an accomplishment for fracking. Obama was never a fan of fracking and did what he could to forestall it, but fortunately the reach of the government under Obama couldn't get to all the private fracking sites. It was a real energy revolution in this country and the government had little to do it.
Using the trump methodology, if a good thing happened during Obama's presidency, he gets credit for it. If a bad thing happened, it was Dubya's fault.
I agree, the partisans on both sides don't give any credit to the other side, no matter what. With that said, what do you point to to give Obama credit for a boom in oil and natural gas production during his time? What policy decision, what directive? How did Obama support and promote fracking?
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:20 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 10:56 am
Using the trump methodology, if a good thing happened during Obama's presidency, he gets credit for it. If a bad thing happened, it was Dubya's fault.
I agree, the partisans on both sides don't give any credit to the other side, no matter what. With that said, what do you point to to give Obama credit for a boom in oil and natural gas production during his time? What policy decision, what directive? How did Obama support and promote fracking?
I was being facetious/trolling.

I enjoy using trump's tactics to rile up MAQA yahoos.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:25 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 11:20 am

I agree, the partisans on both sides don't give any credit to the other side, no matter what. With that said, what do you point to to give Obama credit for a boom in oil and natural gas production during his time? What policy decision, what directive? How did Obama support and promote fracking?
I was being facetious/trolling.

I enjoy using trump's tactics to rile up MAQA yahoos.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 7:52 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 6:51 pm

This is not a new trend

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Looks like that could be another accomplishment for Obama.
In spite of Obama. The spike when he in office was almost all the fracking boom on private lands. Production actually went down on Fed lands.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/20 ... um-legacy/

Clinton (.com boom) and Obama (fracking boom) were both we’re extremely lucky to be in office at the time of the 2 biggest economic drivers of our lifetimes. And despite that the Obama economy had a anemic post Great Recession recovery.

Now Trump benefits from the 3rd economic boom of our lifetimes, the AI boom.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 9:55 am
UNI88 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 7:52 am

Looks like that could be another accomplishment for Obama.
It's an accomplishment for fracking. Obama was never a fan of fracking and did what he could to forestall it, but fortunately the reach of the government under Obama couldn't get to all the private fracking sites. It was a real energy revolution in this country and the government had little to do it.
Of course I should have read ahead, as GF beat me to it.
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You should have kept reading ...

Using the trump methodology, if a good thing happened during Obama's presidency, he gets credit for it. If a bad thing happened, it was Dubya's fault.


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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2026 3:39 pm
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Dow is falling, gas prices are rising, spending $1 billion + on the President of Peace, inflation a concern with oil prices increasing. They voted for this.

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And most Republicans still think it was stolen. :lol:

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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 7:40 am Dow is falling, gas prices are rising, spending $1 billion + on the President of Peace, inflation a concern with oil prices increasing. They voted for this.

Wrong
-Inflation lower
-Gas prices outside the recent spike the last 10 weeks lower.
-Interest rates lower.
-Stock market higher.
-Home prices higher
-Deficit lower (was 1.8 trillion 2024, 1.7 trillion 2025)

Now do it excluding govt jobs, which are down.
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 8:05 am
kalm wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 7:40 am Dow is falling, gas prices are rising, spending $1 billion + on the President of Peace, inflation a concern with oil prices increasing. They voted for this.

Wrong
-Inflation lower
-Gas prices outside the recent spike the last 10 weeks lower.
-Interest rates lower.
-Stock market higher.
-Home prices higher
-Deficit lower (was 1.8 trillion 2024, 1.7 trillion 2025)

Now do it excluding govt jobs, which are down.
“Inflation a concern”. Comprehension is not your strength.

Low interest rates can also precede a recession.

Higher home prices is not a good thing for the working class. Especially in the long run.

Deficit is a push and far from what Trump won on. Are the trillions from tariffs coming in yet?

This is all regardless of whether it’s an R or D. But historically, R’s have been terrible at sustained economic growth, jobs, etc.
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I filled my tank up with gas yesterday - they need to add stickers with trump pointing at the price and saying "I did that".

Thank you donald.
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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 8:27 am
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 8:05 am
Wrong
-Inflation lower
-Gas prices outside the recent spike the last 10 weeks lower.
-Interest rates lower.
-Stock market higher.
-Home prices higher
-Deficit lower (was 1.8 trillion 2024, 1.7 trillion 2025)

Now do it excluding govt jobs, which are down.
“Inflation a concern”. Comprehension is not your strength.

Low interest rates can also precede a recession.

Higher home prices is not a good thing for the working class. Especially in the long run.

Deficit is a push and far from what Trump won on. Are the trillions from tariffs coming in yet?

This is all regardless of whether it’s an R or D. But historically, R’s have been terrible at sustained economic growth, jobs, etc.
Oh, I forgot, inflation adjusted wages are up also. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 8:44 am I filled my tank up with gas yesterday - they need to add stickers with trump pointing at the price and saying "I did that".

Thank you donald.
Your stickers will be outdated as soon as you receive them.
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What’s he yammering about here?

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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 3:13 pm What’s he yammering about here?

Some old guy doing this to kids he doesn’t know is creepy as f**k. If some old guy did that to your kids you should knock the shit out of him.
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Refine Baby Refine!
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BDKJMU wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2026 4:40 pm Refine Baby Refine!
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BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 3:48 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 3:13 pm What’s he yammering about here?

Some old guy doing this to kids he doesn’t know is creepy as f**k. If some old guy did that to your kids you should knock the shit out of him.
If you’re implying he was talking about Biden, that’s even more strange.
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kalm wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2026 8:00 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 3:48 pm
Some old guy doing this to kids he doesn’t know is creepy as f**k. If some old guy did that to your kids you should knock the shit out of him.
If you’re implying he was talking about Biden, that’s even more strange.
No, just pointing out the hypocrisy of those on the left talking about Trump who ignored the obvious with Biden.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2026 3:43 pm
kalm wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2026 8:00 pm
If you’re implying he was talking about Biden, that’s even more strange.
No, just pointing out the hypocrisy of those on the left talking about Trump who ignored the obvious with Biden.
What about the hypocrisy of those in MAQA talking about biden who want to ignore the obvious with trump or worse are attempting to use biden as a "but, but, but ... diversion".

Release the files, investigate them both!
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