US Strikes Iran Part 2.

[UNI88]

Translation:
-Oil and Natural Gas operate under the same tax rules as other industries.
-The only regulations Trump is rolling back are ones put in place by Obama and Biden.
-Oil & Natural gas leases are going on in Alaska as they have going back to 1959, including Cook Inlet, the year Alaska gained statehood.

You have nothing.

No, I'm tired of debating with someone who is so blindly partisan that they refuse to consider anything that contradicts their biases.

[UNI88]

[Caribbean Hen]

We shouldn't be giving the breaks to the existing technology while denying them to new technologies.Thats foolish.


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An example of what I'm saying is hybrid vehicles. They were needed to get to full electric cars. While we wait for the full green technology to operate the way we hope, we should be investing on the existing technology side to close that gap. Making fossil fuel usage as efficient as possible. No business would be able to survive without incremental improvements.

I’m all for riding a bike (no those motorized bikes that are terrorizing the streets of NYC)

Drivers are getting more aggressive, both with their driving and then their road rage… especially with the arrival of Joeys 25 million illegals … traffic is getting bad everywhere and the roads aren’t keeping up despite runaway property taxes every other Tax known to man. It reminds me I almost got plowed over the other night in a Canes chicken parking lot by a pick up truck barreling out of the drive-through without looking where they were going. I put my hands up and was getting ready to jump on top of the vehicle but luckily he saw me just in time and stopped, and when he did, my hands were right on the front of his car.

Americans are fat and could use the exercise

Good for environment

Less money spent on healthcare with healthier Americans

Give a big fat tax incentive bonus for people that do not have a vehicle registered under their name, double it for married couples… I understand in the world today, not that many people would be able to take advantage of it, but maybe someday

In no way shape or form am I saying I want to stop Americans from owning automobiles, but maybe the DMV checks the mileage every year on those rigged inspections and gives people that drive less more of a state tax refund… don’t penalize people that drive Their vehicles, just give incentives for people that drive less

All this just to say, I would ride a bicycle before I bought an EV

[Caribbean Hen]

Translation:
-Oil and Natural Gas operate under the same tax rules as other industries.
-The only regulations Trump is rolling back are ones put in place by Obama and Biden.
-Oil & Natural gas leases are going on in Alaska as they have going back to 1959, including Cook Inlet, the year Alaska gained statehood.

You have nothing.

No, I'm tired of debating with someone who is so blindly partisan that they refuse to consider anything that contradicts their biases.

No you’re not

[BDKJMU]

Oh, they’re serious.

A few days ago..

WaPo to NYT: Hold my beer. Their Khamenei obituary, not satire.

[BDKJMU]

The same WaPo that gave us:

[SeattleGriz]

An example of what I'm saying is hybrid vehicles. They were needed to get to full electric cars. While we wait for the full green technology to operate the way we hope, we should be investing on the existing technology side to close that gap. Making fossil fuel usage as efficient as possible. No business would be able to survive without incremental improvements.

I’m all for riding a bike (no those motorized bikes that are terrorizing the streets of NYC)

Drivers are getting more aggressive, both with their driving and then their road rage… especially with the arrival of Joeys 25 million illegals … traffic is getting bad everywhere and the roads aren’t keeping up despite runaway property taxes every other Tax known to man. It reminds me I almost got plowed over the other night in a Canes chicken parking lot by a pick up truck barreling out of the drive-through without looking where they were going. I put my hands up and was getting ready to jump on top of the vehicle but luckily he saw me just in time and stopped, and when he did, my hands were right on the front of his car.

Americans are fat and could use the exercise

Good for environment

Less money spent on healthcare with healthier Americans

Give a big fat tax incentive bonus for people that do not have a vehicle registered under their name, double it for married couples… I understand in the world today, not that many people would be able to take advantage of it, but maybe someday

In no way shape or form am I saying I want to stop Americans from owning automobiles, but maybe the DMV checks the mileage every year on those rigged inspections and gives people that drive less more of a state tax refund… don’t penalize people that drive Their vehicles, just give incentives for people that drive less

All this just to say, I would ride a bicycle before I bought an EV

I'm up for that, especially as I work remotely. Got a 1995 racing mountain bike I converted over to a "sport" bike when I stopped racing. Slick tires, rigid fork and road bike gearing. Got 32,000 documented miles on it.

In addition, I don't ever drive into Seattle if I can help it. Take public transportation.

[SeattleGriz]

Translation:
-Oil and Natural Gas operate under the same tax rules as other industries.
-The only regulations Trump is rolling back are ones put in place by Obama and Biden.
-Oil & Natural gas leases are going on in Alaska as they have going back to 1959, including Cook Inlet, the year Alaska gained statehood.

You have nothing.

No, I'm tired of debating with someone who is so blindly partisan that they refuse to consider anything that contradicts their biases.

So you finally stopped arguing with yourself. Congratulations!!

[UNI88]

No, I'm tired of debating with someone who is so blindly partisan that they refuse to consider anything that contradicts their biases.

So you finally stopped arguing with yourself. Congratulations!!

Let the MAQA yahoo circle jerk begin.

[BDKJMU]

Mon: Spain says the US couldn‘t use certain Spanish bases in support of Epic Fury.

Yesterday : Trump threatens to cut off all trade with Spain.

Today: Spain caves.

[UNI88]

Mon: Spain says the US couldn‘t use certain Spanish bases in support of Epic Fury.

Yesterday : Trump threatens to cut off all trade with Spain.

Today: Spain caves.

More FAKE News from karolyin' leavitt?

Spain's government denies cooperating with US operations in Mideast, contradicting White House

“I can refute (the White House spokesperson),” Albares told Spanish radio station Cadena Ser. “The position of the Spanish government regarding the war in the Middle East, the bombing of Iran and the use of our bases has not changed one iota.”

The disagreement broke out on Tuesday when Trump said that he was going to “ cut off all trade with Spain,” a day after Albares said that his government wouldn’t allow the U.S. to use jointly operated bases in southern Spain in any strikes not covered by the U.N. charter. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said that his government wouldn’t “be complicit in something that is bad for the world.”

Albares denied that his government had reconsidered its posture on the use of the bases on Wednesday evening in Madrid shortly after White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt had said “with respect to Spain, I think they heard the president’s message yesterday loud and clear.

“And it’s my understanding over the past several hours, they’ve agreed to cooperate with the U.S. military," Leavitt had said. "And so I know that the U.S. military is coordinating with their counterparts in Spain.”

I thought trump was going to make the US more respected? Being a bully does not equal respect.

[GannonFan]

Mon: Spain says the US couldn‘t use certain Spanish bases in support of Epic Fury.

Yesterday : Trump threatens to cut off all trade with Spain.

Today: Spain caves.

More FAKE News from karolyin' leavitt?

Spain's government denies cooperating with US operations in Mideast, contradicting White House

“I can refute (the White House spokesperson),” Albares told Spanish radio station Cadena Ser. “The position of the Spanish government regarding the war in the Middle East, the bombing of Iran and the use of our bases has not changed one iota.”

The disagreement broke out on Tuesday when Trump said that he was going to “ cut off all trade with Spain,” a day after Albares said that his government wouldn’t allow the U.S. to use jointly operated bases in southern Spain in any strikes not covered by the U.N. charter. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said that his government wouldn’t “be complicit in something that is bad for the world.”

Albares denied that his government had reconsidered its posture on the use of the bases on Wednesday evening in Madrid shortly after White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt had said “with respect to Spain, I think they heard the president’s message yesterday loud and clear.

“And it’s my understanding over the past several hours, they’ve agreed to cooperate with the U.S. military," Leavitt had said. "And so I know that the U.S. military is coordinating with their counterparts in Spain.”

I thought trump was going to make the US more respected? Being a bully does not equal respect.

Spain is the kind of example that the NATO naysayers and the Trump supporters throw up there and, unfortunately, in this kind of situation Spain gives them even more reason to believe that. Spain's one of the lower defense spending as % of GDP countries in NATO, something like 1.4%, which is well under the 2% target that always existed, and far short of the 5% target most NATO countries have agreed is required given the state of the world today. So they're already a laggard in terms of contributions to NATO, and now they even deny the use of bases for other NATO countries. Granted, they'll be more than happy to have a safer world with a Middle East that doesn't include a belligerent Iran, funding the likes of Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis (the Houthis being the ones shooting at commercial ships in the region, including those from or bound for Spain). They just don't want to have to do anything, spending or otherwise, to make things safer. Trump and his ilk are certainly bullies and terrible for foreign relations, but don't let that cloud the fact that Spain enjoys being a free-rider and getting to let someone else spend money to make things safe for Spain.

[Caribbean Hen]

I’m all for riding a bike (no those motorized bikes that are terrorizing the streets of NYC)

Drivers are getting more aggressive, both with their driving and then their road rage… especially with the arrival of Joeys 25 million illegals … traffic is getting bad everywhere and the roads aren’t keeping up despite runaway property taxes every other Tax known to man. It reminds me I almost got plowed over the other night in a Canes chicken parking lot by a pick up truck barreling out of the drive-through without looking where they were going. I put my hands up and was getting ready to jump on top of the vehicle but luckily he saw me just in time and stopped, and when he did, my hands were right on the front of his car.

Americans are fat and could use the exercise

Good for environment

Less money spent on healthcare with healthier Americans

Give a big fat tax incentive bonus for people that do not have a vehicle registered under their name, double it for married couples… I understand in the world today, not that many people would be able to take advantage of it, but maybe someday

In no way shape or form am I saying I want to stop Americans from owning automobiles, but maybe the DMV checks the mileage every year on those rigged inspections and gives people that drive less more of a state tax refund… don’t penalize people that drive Their vehicles, just give incentives for people that drive less

All this just to say, I would ride a bicycle before I bought an EV

I'm up for that, especially as I work remotely. Got a 1995 racing mountain bike I converted over to a "sport" bike when I stopped racing. Slick tires, rigid fork and road bike gearing. Got 32,000 documented miles on it.

In addition, I don't ever drive into Seattle if I can help it. Take public transportation.

32,000 miles

that’s no joke!!

[UNI88]

Ayatollah’s son is leading contender to be Iran’s next supreme leader

Mojtaba Khamenei, the second son of the former Supreme Leader, who was killed in an air strike on Saturday, is being considered by the regime’s senior clerics to be the next supreme leader, according to The New York Times.

It reported that clerics met virtually on Tuesday to discuss the new leadership of the Islamic Republic, which has been decimated by American and Israeli attacks.
...
Mr Khamenei, a 56-year-old hardliner who has managed his father’s office and networks for years, is believed to be the clear front-runner and could be named as early as Wednesday morning. For years, he has been seen as one of the top candidates to succeed his father.

Does this really qualify as regime change?

[kalm]

I have a friend vacationing in Dubai. He’s stuck there. State department says get out now, you have to buy your own ticket, but get out. Problem is commercial flights are still grounded.

Listening to the Jon Stewart podcast with Christine Amanpour and former ambassador Wendy Sherman as guests. Other countries have been chartering flights to get their citizens and embassy staff out. The Trump admin simply says find your own way out, best of luck. Plus state department funding has been cut so we don’t have the current funding for what we used to do.

Seems like Trump and Rubio planned the bombing with Israel without taking the aftermath into consideration and lack the dexterity to shift plans on the fly.

Fail.

[Caribbean Hen]

I have a friend vacationing in Dubai. He’s stuck there. State department says get out now, you have to buy your own ticket, but get out. Problem is commercial flights are still grounded.

Listening to the Jon Stewart podcast with Christine Amanpour and former ambassador Wendy Sherman as guests. Other countries have been chartering flights to get their citizens and embassy staff out. The Trump admin simply says find your own way out, best of luck. Plus state department funding has been cut so we don’t have the current funding for what we used to do.

Seems like Trump and Rubio planned the bombing with Israel without taking the aftermath into consideration and lack the dexterity to shift plans on the fly.

Fail.

Good grief

The United States is under no obligation to evacuate every tourist

Just tell him to hang loose and keep partying as the beers are probably cheaper now.

[kalm]

I have a friend vacationing in Dubai. He’s stuck there. State department says get out now, you have to buy your own ticket, but get out. Problem is commercial flights are still grounded.

Listening to the Jon Stewart podcast with Christine Amanpour and former ambassador Wendy Sherman as guests. Other countries have been chartering flights to get their citizens and embassy staff out. The Trump admin simply says find your own way out, best of luck. Plus state department funding has been cut so we don’t have the current funding for what we used to do.

Seems like Trump and Rubio planned the bombing with Israel without taking the aftermath into consideration and lack the dexterity to shift plans on the fly.

Fail.

Good grief

The United States is under no obligation to evacuate every tourist

Just tell him to hang loose and keep partying as the beers are probably cheaper now.

Of course it is. We’ve done it in the past. Other countries are doing it now. Make America a 2nd Rate Country Again.

[UNI88]

Good grief

The United States is under no obligation to evacuate every tourist

Just tell him to hang loose and keep partying as the beers are probably cheaper now.

Of course it is. We’ve done it in the past. Other countries are doing it now. Make America a 2nd Rate Country Again.

I like how he specified tourists to attempt to avoid comparisons to biden's Afghanistan withdrawal.

[Caribbean Hen]

Good grief

The United States is under no obligation to evacuate every tourist

Just tell him to hang loose and keep partying as the beers are probably cheaper now.

Of course it is. We’ve done it in the past. Other countries are doing it now. Make America a 2nd Rate Country Again.

Getting his precious self out of Dubai is just not a priority for our government at this juncture….

Maybe try another airport or just read a book or have a cold one

Get back to us in a few days

[kalm]

Of course it is. We’ve done it in the past. Other countries are doing it now. Make America a 2nd Rate Country Again.

Getting his precious self out of Dubai is just not a priority for our government at this juncture….

Maybe try another airport or just read a book or have a cold one

Get back to us in a few days

Man are you missing the point here. He’s not backpacking his way through Burkina Faso. He dropped thousands to visit a U.S. friendly travel destination that advertises itself as vacation wonderland and attracts loads of European vacationers.

The buildup to the Iraq war took at least a year, with congressional hearings and such. Nobody was vacationing to Iraq at that time. This war was decided over what? A weekend?

The bootstraps, tough guy, deal with it angle has run its course. If you were in his shoes you’d be whining like a little bitch.

[Caribbean Hen]

Getting his precious self out of Dubai is just not a priority for our government at this juncture….

Maybe try another airport or just read a book or have a cold one

Get back to us in a few days

Man are you missing the point here. He’s not backpacking his way through Burkina Faso. He dropped thousands to visit a U.S. friendly travel destination that advertises itself as vacation wonderland and attracts loads of European vacationers.

The buildup to the Iraq war took at least a year, with congressional hearings and such. Nobody was vacationing to Iraq at that time. This war was decided over what? A weekend?

The bootstraps, tough guy, deal with it angle has run its course. If you were in his shoes you’d be whining like a little bitch.

Nope

Not advocating to be a tough guy

what I’m saying is take some responsibility for your own actions

He chose to go there and the buildup of naval assets to the Middle East was in process a long time ago, but he went anyway….

He just needs to make the best of it until things work out

[GannonFan]

CH has a bit of a point here. It's not like we decided to attack Iran overnight or a weekend. We moved the first carrier group to the area more than a month ago. And we advertised the second carrier group moving there for at least the past few weeks and news kept tracking how close it was to being in position, almost like a countdown. We were in talks with Iran for several weeks leading up to this and that was reported on pretty widely and how poorly the talks were going. And lastly, the US was very public in telling the embassy staffs last week to evacuate, so it was pretty clear the chance of conflict was getting pretty high. I don't doubt the frustration and the worry for people stuck in the area - and any effort to get folks out is going to be problematic and drawn out (even the UK says it's going to take awhile). But there were plenty of signs over a relatively long period that this was going to be a potentially flashpoint area.

[UNI88]

CH has a bit of a point here. It's not like we decided to attack Iran overnight or a weekend. We moved the first carrier group to the area more than a month ago. And we advertised the second carrier group moving there for at least the past few weeks and news kept tracking how close it was to being in position, almost like a countdown. We were in talks with Iran for several weeks leading up to this and that was reported on pretty widely and how poorly the talks were going. And lastly, the US was very public in telling the embassy staffs last week to evacuate, so it was pretty clear the chance of conflict was getting pretty high. I don't doubt the frustration and the worry for people stuck in the area - and any effort to get folks out is going to be problematic and drawn out (even the UK says it's going to take awhile). But there were plenty of signs over a relatively long period that this was going to be a potentially flashpoint area.

Can't you say the same thing about the people who got stuck in Afghanistan? Did CH tell them to tough it out or did he blame biden?

There is a double standard here that applies to MAQA and the left.

[SeattleGriz]

I'm up for that, especially as I work remotely. Got a 1995 racing mountain bike I converted over to a "sport" bike when I stopped racing. Slick tires, rigid fork and road bike gearing. Got 32,000 documented miles on it.

In addition, I don't ever drive into Seattle if I can help it. Take public transportation.

32,000 miles

that’s no joke!!

It went from racing bike to commuter to exercise to kid hauler and back to exercise. 30 years old now, but I was a bike mechanic in college so it's been easy to maintain.

[Caribbean Hen]

CH has a bit of a point here. It's not like we decided to attack Iran overnight or a weekend. We moved the first carrier group to the area more than a month ago. And we advertised the second carrier group moving there for at least the past few weeks and news kept tracking how close it was to being in position, almost like a countdown. We were in talks with Iran for several weeks leading up to this and that was reported on pretty widely and how poorly the talks were going. And lastly, the US was very public in telling the embassy staffs last week to evacuate, so it was pretty clear the chance of conflict was getting pretty high. I don't doubt the frustration and the worry for people stuck in the area - and any effort to get folks out is going to be problematic and drawn out (even the UK says it's going to take awhile). But there were plenty of signs over a relatively long period that this was going to be a potentially flashpoint area.

Can't you say the same thing about the people who got stuck in Afghanistan? Did CH tell them to tough it out or did he blame biden?

There is a double standard here that applies to MAQA and the left.

How many U.S. tourist were in Afghanistan?

How many of them were there at the time of Joe bozo‘s embarrassing withdrawal?