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This is neither Capitalism or Democracy

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It’s tough to argue with much of this thread. The endgame of both unregulated capitalism and Soviet style command economies is centralized control, power, and wealth in the hands of a few.





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Oops! Stephen Miller’s proficiency at getting economics wrong, decade after decade, is approaching Thomas Sowell levels. :lol:

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"Socialism" is a constant of history. The only variable is how much goes regular people, the rich, or the military.
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Pwns wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:57 am "Socialism" is a constant of history. The only variable is how much goes regular people, the rich, or the military.
Very true.
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Great piece. Conservative Dems like Manchin, Sinema, and Schumer are equally to blame and a big reason why the Dems have lost the working class for now.
House Speaker Mike Johnson says that California Governor Gavin Newsom should be “tarred and feathered” because he’s going along with protestors who object to Trump’s fascist behavior.
The vast majority of political violence over the past 15 years has been committed by rightwing goons and assassins, culminating in Minneapolis last weekend.
Trump is inserting Marines into an American city against the will and wishes of the mayor and that state’s governor and just rolled out a North Korea-style military parade. Next, he wants to give billionaires another $5 trillion tax gift funded by borrowed money you and your children will have to pay back.
And now he’s changed the veterans administration rules so doctors and nurses can refuse to provide services to veterans who are registered as Democrats. Seriously, not making that up.
How did we get here?
When, in 1978, five corrupt Republicans on the Supreme Court first ruled that corporations are persons and money is the same thing as free speech, that Bellotti decision authored by Lewis Powell (of Powell Memo infamy) first set America on the road to oligarchy.
At that time, Congress was still regularly passing legislation that benefited average working class and poor Americans, and the morbidly rich were doing just fine. The previous 46 years since the election of Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1932 had seen legislation passed and signed into law that included:
— Legalizing unions
— Minimum wage
— Banking protections (Glass-Steagall)
— Reforesting America (Civilian Conservation Corps)
— Major power projects (Hoover Dam, TVA, etc.)
— Subsidized electricity to rural areas
— Social Security
— Unemployment Insurance
— Aid for Dependent Children
— Public Housing
— 40-hour week and overtime rules
— Ending child labor
— Survivor’s benefits for orphans and widows
— Job Corps
— VISTA (Volunteers in Service to America)
— Head Start
— Food stamps
— Outlawing discrimination in public accommodations and education
— Outlawing discrimination in the workplace
— Federal funding for public schools
— Medicare
— Medicaid
— Voting rights
— Pell Grants and other college subsidies
— Housing and Urban Development Act
— Child Nutrition Act (school lunches)
By 1978, America was largely a functioning democracy, as both women and racial minorities were guaranteed the right to vote. But the Bellotti decision (and its 1976 Buckley predecessor) opened the door for billionaires and corporations to legally buy politicians, enabling Ronald Reagan to float into the White House in the 1980 election on a tsunami of corporate (mostly oil and banking) money.
In the 44 years since that Reagan Revolution, on-the-take Republicans (and a large handful of on-the-take “problem solver” Democrats) have passed a total of two pieces of legislation that exclusively or primarily benefited average working class or poor people:
— Low Income Home Energy Assistance Act (LIHEAP)
— Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA)
I know it sounds mind-boggling when put in those terms, but I’ve been running a contest on my radio program for 22 years offering a prize to anybody who can name even one single piece of legislation that was written by Republicans, signed into law by a Republican president, and benefited primarily the average person — and nobody has won.
Even Obamacare was originally written by the billionaire-funded Heritage Foundation as a trillion-dollar gift to the health insurance industry, which it certainly has turned out to be.
Thus, when President Carter told me in 2011 that the 2010 Citizens United decision that doubled-down on and expanded Bellotti had finally and completely turned America into an oligarchy, he was right on the money.
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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:36 am Oops! Stephen Miller’s proficiency at getting economics wrong, decade after decade, is approaching Thomas Sowell levels. :lol:

Where? :suspicious:
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:20 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:36 am Oops! Stephen Miller’s proficiency at getting economics wrong, decade after decade, is approaching Thomas Sowell levels. :lol:

Where? :suspicious:
What?
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kalm wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:41 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 1:20 pm
Where? :suspicious:
What?
You said Stephen MILLER :?

I only see a post for Stephen MOORE.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:57 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:41 pm

What?
You said Stephen MILLER :?

I only see a post for Stephen MOORE.
Oops! My bad! :lol: Stephen Moore the economist is still wrong but he is not even close to Miller’s level of corruption and fascism.
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kalm wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:34 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:57 pm
You said Stephen MILLER :?

I only see a post for Stephen MOORE.
Oops! My bad! :lol: Stephen Moore the economist is still wrong but he is not even close to Weird Stephen's level of corruption and fascism.
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Supposed populists should be paying attention to this.

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Spot fucking on as usual. Next time you hear a pundit preach about the free market, know that they either don’t understand economics, are paid to say so, greedily benefit from the status quo without actually doing any real work, and mostly are just full of shit. :lol:

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kalm wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:36 am Oops! Stephen Miller’s proficiency at getting economics wrong, decade after decade, is approaching Thomas Sowell levels. :lol:


Dumb Davey makes no mention that it was the libs who pushed mama out of the house and into the work force

Now they wonder why child care is so expensive and ask why are kids becoming more violent and unruly

Family values be damned …. The liberal way
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:57 pm
kalm wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:41 pm

What?
You said Stephen MILLER :?

I only see a post for Stephen MOORE.
Just more proof that Stephen Miller lives in Klams empty skull…. It’s clean though from all the brain washing that happened up there
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:22 am
kalm wrote: Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:36 am Oops! Stephen Miller’s proficiency at getting economics wrong, decade after decade, is approaching Thomas Sowell levels. :lol:


Dumb Davey makes no mention that it was the libs who pushed mama out of the house and into the work force

Now they wonder why child care is so expensive and ask why are kids becoming more violent and unruly

Family values be damned …. The liberal way
So would you force women to be trad wives? And I wasn’t aware you were familiar with David Sirota. Glad you read and listen to his stuff. Even if you disagree.
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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:22 am


Dumb Davey makes no mention that it was the libs who pushed mama out of the house and into the work force

Now they wonder why child care is so expensive and ask why are kids becoming more violent and unruly

Family values be damned …. The liberal way
So would you force women to be trad wives? And I wasn’t aware you were familiar with David Sirota. Glad you read and listen to his stuff. Even if you disagree.
No, I don’t have any respect for anyone that’s crying all the time about the Rich getting richer…. Just dumb

If you have a problem with the rich, go out and enrich yourself
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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:56 am
Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:22 am


Dumb Davey makes no mention that it was the libs who pushed mama out of the house and into the work force

Now they wonder why child care is so expensive and ask why are kids becoming more violent and unruly

Family values be damned …. The liberal way
So would you force women to be trad wives? And I wasn’t aware you were familiar with David Sirota. Glad you read and listen to his stuff. Even if you disagree.
Do you look down on women who freely choose to do so?
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:30 am
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:56 am
So would you force women to be trad wives? And I wasn’t aware you were familiar with David Sirota. Glad you read and listen to his stuff. Even if you disagree.
Do you look down on women who freely choose to do so?
No, that's their choice and the should be free to make it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be a mother and wife.

I do look down on jackasses who think that's the only choice women should have/make.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:36 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:30 am
Do you look down on women who freely choose to do so?
No, that's their choice and the should be free to make it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be a mother and wife.

I do look down on jackasses who think that's the only choice women should have/make.
I wasn’t t asking you, Kalm88.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 10:39 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:36 am
No, that's their choice and the should be free to make it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be a mother and wife.

I do look down on jackasses who think that's the only choice women should have/make.
I wasn’t t asking you, Kalm88.
So what? Can't stop me from answering or from having an opinion.
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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:00 am Spot fucking on as usual. Next time you hear someone try to define who I am, just know that I either don’t understand economics, paid to say so, greedily benefit from the status quo without actually doing any real work, and mostly are just full of shit. :lol:

Holy crap, everything I’ve been saying about you is true :lol:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:34 pm
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:00 am Spot fucking on as usual. Next time you hear someone try to define who I am, just know that I either don’t understand economics, paid to say so, greedily benefit from the status quo without actually doing any real work, and mostly are just full of shit. :lol:

Holy crap, everything I’ve been saying about you is true :lol:
One of these days you might just land one. Keep swinging, little slugger! :clap:
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:07 am
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:56 am

So would you force women to be trad wives? And I wasn’t aware you were familiar with David Sirota. Glad you read and listen to his stuff. Even if you disagree.
No, I don’t have any respect for anyone that’s crying all the time about the Rich getting richer…. Just dumb

If you have a problem with the rich, go out and enrich yourself
What’s dumb is an economy that requires the rich get theirs regardless. Those type of systems eventually crumble.

I don’t respect anyone that’s constantly crying about the poor, POC’s, immigrants, LGBTQ, women, and big bad liberals in support of the rich.

For a Sowell fan, you seem to be lacking in economic and philosophical sense.

Oh wait…never mind. That’s exactly who idolizes Sowell. :rofl:
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:30 am
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:56 am

So would you force women to be trad wives? And I wasn’t aware you were familiar with David Sirota. Glad you read and listen to his stuff. Even if you disagree.
Do you look down on women who freely choose to do so?
Of course not. What a silly question. :lol:
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