Miscellaneous news items that don't warrant their own thread

[UNI88]

We're talking about now, not when FDR or even Bill Clinton were Presidents (Eisenhower was a Republican).

And yes, the Democratic Party has a a corporatist wing, but that wing isn't nearly as influential as it once was and many US corporations have embraced leftist approaches in order to market their products.

Both parties have moved toward their extremes. The extremists are the loudest and most active so they drive the debate at the local party level. Gerrymandering has given them even more power within their parties and driven the moderate/centrists to the side.

I don't know how to help you if you can't see the hypocrisy of complaining about Republicans calling Democrats Marxists/communists but having no problem with Democrats calling Republicans Nazis/fascists.

Biden has moved a little to the left rhetorically and on sone issues but do has the country hence the corporations following suit. Like I used to try and remind sone of you, the middle is a moving target.

There’s hypocrisy if both are equally true. They’re clearly not. Agree with you on the gerrymandering and divisiveness tho. The plagues of a two party system that leaves very few good options.

The country has moved left on social issues such as same sex marriage and the legalization of marijuana. It hasn't move left on the size, scope & reach of government which is where Biden has moved left.

They're not equally true ... Sanders is an avowed socialist. AOChe was/is a member of the DSA. They promote socialist political policies and views. They're closer to Marxists/communists than trump and his minions who are wannabe tinpot, banana republic dictators not competent enough to call themselves fascists.

[kalm]

Biden has moved a little to the left rhetorically and on sone issues but do has the country hence the corporations following suit. Like I used to try and remind sone of you, the middle is a moving target.

There’s hypocrisy if both are equally true. They’re clearly not. Agree with you on the gerrymandering and divisiveness tho. The plagues of a two party system that leaves very few good options.

The country has moved left on social issues such as same sex marriage and the legalization of marijuana. It hasn't move left on the size, scope & reach of government which is where Biden has moved left.

They're not equally true ... Sanders is an avowed socialist. AOChe was/is a member of the DSA. They promote socialist political policies and views. They're closer to Marxists/communists than trump and his minions who are wannabe tinpot, banana republic dictators not competent enough to call themselves fascists.

Wait a second…YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THE RIGHT WANTS A SMALLER GOVERNMENT?!?. GTFO!

But yes, Biden has indeed moved us left, and back toward the center, on the scope of government. Covid had something to do with it, and some of it has to do with deferred infrastructure investment, defense spending, etc.

Sanders is a democratic socialist…similar to FDR and the Nordic’s. Heaven forbid. But we’re still short of that regarding minimum wage or family maternity leave or vacations. AOC is further to the left. But even she disappoints some lefties these days by the Dem Progressive Caucus not putting up more of a fight.

I don’t see either banning books, targeting the innocent, and threatening to overturn ejections.

I suppose there’s still time.

[kalm]

Biden has moved a little to the left rhetorically and on sone issues but do has the country hence the corporations following suit. Like I used to try and remind sone of you, the middle is a moving target.

There’s hypocrisy if both are equally true. They’re clearly not. Agree with you on the gerrymandering and divisiveness tho. The plagues of a two party system that leaves very few good options.

The country has moved left on social issues such as same sex marriage and the legalization of marijuana. It hasn't move left on the size, scope & reach of government which is where Biden has moved left.

They're not equally true ... Sanders is an avowed socialist. AOChe was/is a member of the DSA. They promote socialist political policies and views. They're closer to Marxists/communists than trump and his minions who are wannabe tinpot, banana republic dictators not competent enough to call themselves fascists.

And here’s an example..

[BDKJMU]

The country has moved left on social issues such as same sex marriage and the legalization of marijuana. It hasn't move left on the size, scope & reach of government which is where Biden has moved left.

They're not equally true ... Sanders is an avowed socialist. AOChe was/is a member of the DSA. They promote socialist political policies and views. They're closer to Marxists/communists than trump and his minions who are wannabe tinpot, banana republic dictators not competent enough to call themselves fascists.

Wait a second…YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THE RIGHT WANTS A SMALLER GOVERNMENT?!?. GTFO!

But yes, Biden has indeed moved us left, and back toward the center, on the scope of government. Covid had something to do with it, and some of it has to do with deferred infrastructure investment, defense spending, etc.

Sanders is a democratic socialist…similar to FDR and the Nordic’s. Heaven forbid. But we’re still short of that regarding minimum wage or family maternity leave or vacations. AOC is further to the left. But even she disappoints some lefties these days by the Dem Progressive Caucus not putting up more of a fight.

I don’t see either banning books, targeting the innocent, and threatening to overturn ejections.

I suppose there’s still time.

[kalm]

Wait a second…YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THE RIGHT WANTS A SMALLER GOVERNMENT?!?. GTFO!

But yes, Biden has indeed moved us left, and back toward the center, on the scope of government. Covid had something to do with it, and some of it has to do with deferred infrastructure investment, defense spending, etc.

Sanders is a democratic socialist…similar to FDR and the Nordic’s. Heaven forbid. But we’re still short of that regarding minimum wage or family maternity leave or vacations. AOC is further to the left. But even she disappoints some lefties these days by the Dem Progressive Caucus not putting up more of a fight.

I don’t see either banning books, targeting the innocent, and threatening to overturn ejections.

I suppose there’s still time.

BDK’s center:

[UNI88]

BDK’s center:

BDK’s center and your center are similar.


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[kalm]

BDK’s center:

BDK’s center and your center are similar.


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My center: Romney, McConnell, Schumer, Obama, Hillary, Jefferies, Amash, Sasse.

[UNI88]

BDK’s center and your center are similar.

My center: Romney, McConnell, Schumer, Obama, Hillary, Jefferies, Amash, Sasse.

You forgot Manchin, Sinema, Liz Cheney, Kinzinger & Dubya.

FTR I believe Bernie when he calls himself a democratic socialist about as much as I believe trump when he insinuates that he's fighting the deep state for the common person.

[BDKJMU]

One video I saw had clains:
-More people have been to outer space than this depth of the ocean.
-Only 3 operationing subs in the world (well now I guess 2) that can go to that depth- 6k pounds per sq inch.

And yet, I couldn't help noticing how many pieces of this sub seemed improvised, with off-the-shelf components. Piloting the craft is run with a video game controller.

Pogue said, "It seems like this submersible has some elements of MacGyver jerry-riggedness. I mean, you're putting construction pipes as ballast."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-vi ... the-world/

What could go wrong?

[BDKJMU]

All dead. Debris field found, catostrophic implosion.Would have died instantly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tanic.html

[bobbythekidd]

All dead. Debris field found, catostrophic implosion.Would have died instantly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tanic.html

Yesterday I read an engineer stated that the violent implosion of the pressure vessel would take .2 seconds to completely crush. At the same time it takes .4 seconds for the spine to tell the brain there was a problem. Thankfully, they never knew of their own death.

[BDKJMU]

All dead. Debris field found, catostrophic implosion.Would have died instantly.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... tanic.html

Yesterday I read an engineer stated that the violent implosion of the pressure vessel would take .2 seconds to completely crush. At the same time it takes .4 seconds for the spine to tell the brain there was a problem. Thankfully, they never knew of their own death.

And the Navy knew on Sun apparently die to their super duper accoustic sonar.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-d ... _lead_pos1
Now why would the Navy wait until Thur to release that info?
Could it be the below?

[BDKJMU]

Company behind missing Titan sub allegedly fired a director for raising concerns about the vessel and its potential to expose passengers to ‘extreme danger’ https://fortune.com/2023/06/21/titan-ti ... h-harding/

Rush told Estrada that the window would “squeeze in about 3 quarters of an inch” by the water pressure. Rush said the window would give “a huge warning” and start to “crackle” before it cracks or fails.

https://sandrarose.com/2023/06/debris-f ... implosion/
So you’d have a few second warning before your instantaneous death? A plexiglass viewport only rated to withstand pressures 1/3 of the depth they were diving. This Stockton Rush was off his rocker, and frankly anyone who paid 250k to ride on this jerry rigged contraction to 12k+ feet would have a lot more $$ than common sense.

[bobbythekidd]

Yesterday I read an engineer stated that the violent implosion of the pressure vessel would take .2 seconds to completely crush. At the same time it takes .4 seconds for the spine to tell the brain there was a problem. Thankfully, they never knew of their own death.

And the Navy knew on Sun apparently die to their super duper accoustic sonar.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-d ... _lead_pos1
Now why would the Navy wait until Thur to release that info?
Could it be the below?

Not everything needs to be a conspiracy. The Navy heard what was consistent with an implosion but it wasn't able to confirm that's what it was. That info was relayed to the search command but not released in general s so as to not deter rescue efforts. The search continued until the debris field was found. That's when it was confirmed.

[UNI88]

And the Navy knew on Sun apparently die to their super duper accoustic sonar.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-navy-d ... _lead_pos1
Now why would the Navy wait until Thur to release that info?
Could it be the below?

Not everything needs to be a conspiracy. The Navy heard what was consistent with an implosion but it wasn't able to confirm that's what it was. That info was relayed to the search command but not released in general s so as to not deter rescue efforts. The search continued until the debris field was found. That's when it was confirmed.

Anything remotely related to Biden is nefarious to some while anything related to trump is heroic.

[SeattleGriz]

Not everything needs to be a conspiracy. The Navy heard what was consistent with an implosion but it wasn't able to confirm that's what it was. That info was relayed to the search command but not released in general s so as to not deter rescue efforts. The search continued until the debris field was found. That's when it was confirmed.

Anything remotely related to Trump is nefarious to some while anything related to biden is heroic.

FYP

[UNI88]

Anything remotely related to Trump is nefarious to some while anything related to biden is heroic.

FYP

They’re both true.


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[SeattleGriz]

FYP

They’re both true.


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[BDKJMU]

James Cameron, who has been down to the Titanic site 33 times:

“This OceanGate sub had sensors on the inside of a hull to give them a warning when it was starting to crack. And I think if that’s your idea of safety, then you’re doing it wrong. They probably had warning that their hull was starting to delaminate, starting to crack. ... [W]e understand from inside the community that they had dropped their ascent weights and they were coming up, trying to manage an emergency.

People in the community were very concerned about this sub. A number of the top players in the deep submergence engineering community even wrote letters to the company, saying that what they were doing was too experimental to carry passengers and that it needed to be certified…

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-a ... -submarine

[BDKJMU]

Uh oh..
U.S. Home Prices Posted First Annual Decline Since 2012 in April
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-home-p ... l-a5d0bbdc

[kalm]

Interesting take.

[Pwns]

In today's "I can't tell what's satire and what's real" file.

[GannonFan]

Interesting take.

Another guy trying to do anything to make Modern Monetary Theory seem viable. Despite all the evidence to the contrary. Just another example that advanced degrees don't automatically mean good things.

[kalm]

Interesting take.

Another guy trying to do anything to make Modern Monetary Theory seem viable. Despite all the evidence to the contrary. Just another example that advanced degrees don't automatically mean good things.

So government provides infrastructure, a legal system, and national defense that private companies should provide instead?

Or those items are not considered assets of government (we the people)?

[GannonFan]

Another guy trying to do anything to make Modern Monetary Theory seem viable. Despite all the evidence to the contrary. Just another example that advanced degrees don't automatically mean good things.

So government provides infrastructure, a legal system, and national defense that private companies should provide instead?

Or those items are not considered assets of government (we the people)?

That isn't in the vicinity of anything related to this discussion. You do have a tendency to talk about one thing and then swing vastly to a different topic altogether, convinced that just including it in the conversation means they are connected.

The idea from Modern Monetary Theory that all money is doled out by the government and that government decides what we get to have, coupled with the idea that government spending and taxes don't have to match (or even remotely come close to matching), and coupled with the idea that private market spending in anyway dictates inflation (which has and always will be a money supply problem) are the main nuggets to take out of the tweet you provided and are why Modern Monetary Theory is a craphill of an economic theory.