Philly DA On Hot Seat For Lies He Told About Catholic Church

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Re: Philly DA On Hot Seat For Lies He Told About Catholic Ch

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JoltinJoe wrote:
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Nope, 89Hairfollicals. Just holding Joltin Joke accountable. Saw this article on Abuse Tracker, a site almost solely dedicated to monitoring the crimes of your church.

Wanted Doltin's collassal fail on record here.
The 1995 law under which Lynn was convicted (having been cleared of other charges) concerned reckless endangerment of a child over whom the defendant had a duty to supervise.

In 2005, the Philadelphia DA's office issued a grand jury report noting Msgr. Lynn's negligence, but saying he could not be charged under the existing law because he did not have a duty of supervising any child.

In 2007, Pennsylvania amended the law to include within its scope negligent and reckless acts of an individual charged with the responsibility over someone with a duty of supervising a child.

In 2011, the Philadelphia DA's office indicted Lynn -- who left his position in 2004 -- under the new law. Lynn moved to dismiss, arguing he left his position in 2004, and thus could not be charged under the new law. The DA then amended the indictment to charge him under the 1995, arguing that it covered Lynn -- despite the office's prior concession that it did not.

Lynn moved to dismiss the amended indictment, and the trial judge denied the motion, saying she agreed with the ridiculous claim of the DA. After trial, the appellate court reversed, saying it is a firmly established constitutional right that one cannot be charged ex post facto. The opinion also derided the trial judge for her obvious bias.

The PA Supreme Court, an elected group not known for scholarship nationally, reversed the obviously correct decision of the appellate court in an opinion that includes a lengthy Clintonesque discussion of what "supervision of a child" means -- ultimately concluding that it means someone who doesn't have a duty of supervision of child.

They do this by saying that the statute is ambiguous -- i.e., did it mean "direct supervision" (which is, to those who understand proper English, a redundancy) or "indirect supervision (which is, to those who understand proper English, a contradiction)? By the way, this is how lawyers manufacture so-called ambiguity, by arguing that a word that has a clear meaning is ambiguous, and then trying to attach modifiers to the word that actually contradict it.

It also then used the term that the statute concerned "children," rather than a specific "child," and thus obliterated any need for the "duty to supervise" be of a specific child (an important aspect of the case, since Lynn never met the esteemed Billy Doe).

The court then explained away that the constitutional mandate that any ambiguity in a law be construed against the government, for lack of proper notice to a defendant that his actions may be subject to the statute.

At the moment, the case is back before the appellate court so it can resolve other issues raised by that it previously had no reason to decide. Once he is done with the PA courts -- and assuming the conviction is not overturned again, which is still likely -- Lynn's attorney is promising federal court and Supreme Court review of the illegal decision of the PA Supreme Court, which will undoubtedly overturned.

And, this does not even touch upon the fact that the so-called victim is a heroin addict and liar who not long before he filed the case told a state psychiatrist that he'd never been sexually abused. :coffee:

And the Philly DA keeps dismissing charges brought against Billy Doe in other cases, intolerable corruption at its worst.
Your pedophile protector is in prison, Joe.

Deal with it.
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Re: Philly DA On Hot Seat For Lies He Told About Catholic Ch

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Regarding the priest Joe is defending:
Perhaps more so than anyone else, defrocked priest Edward Avery has been at the heart of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia’s child sex abuse scandal. In March of 2012, Avery pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 10-year-old altar boy in 1999. In June, Monsignor William Lynn became the first U.S. Catholic priest convicted of covering up the sex abuse of children, for his failure to expel Avery from the church following an earlier report of abuse. Finally, just last week, Avery recanted his March 2012 confession while testifying as a witness in an ongoing case.

On Tuesday, the watchdog group Bishop Accountability released the first trove of over nearly 6,000 documents it will publish about the scandal in Philadelphia. (It’s released similar documents for other cities.) This initial batch details the first allegations to emerge against Avery, in 1992, by a man who said he was abused as a teenager in the 1970s and 1980s. It was for covering up these allegations–allowing Avery to abuse another child later on–that Lynn was ultimately convicted of child endangerment.


Though these documents were first made public during Lynn’s trial in 2012, they’ve never before been catalogued online, and much of their content hasn’t been reported. Below, among other revealing documents, are some of the most troubling allegations about Avery that Lynn was aware of.
1. March 31, 1992: From a letter William Lynn received from Avery’s first accuser. Lynn had recently taken over as secretary for the clergy, and was in charge of handling such accusations.

I am writing today in the hope that God may be better served. Enclosed is a copy of the most difficult letter I have ever written. It’s a letter I’ve put off writing for over 10 years and wish I had written many years ago. You see I was hurt deeply by Father Avery and at the time ashamed and afraid to confront this issue.

2. From the letter addressed directly to Avery, which Lynn also received.

Then one night after I had helped you at a dance [“The Smiling Padre” Avery moonlighted as a DJ] and had quite a lot to drink I awoke to find your hand on my crotch. I was terrified. I didn’t know what to do so I turned over and pretended to be asleep …Eventually I was able to block the episode out of my mind …

So I forgot about it and let my guard down. This time after a ski trip in Vermont, you committed the same violation of my trust but this time I was sober and awake lying with my eyes closed. I was devastated, confused, and angry … I knew one thing, I didn’t want you to touch me that way and I didn’t want to have sex with you or any other man.

3. September 28th, 1992: Notes from an interview Lynn and another clergyman conducted with the victim, in which Avery’s encouragement of underage drinking, as well as the existence of third abuse incident, were divulged.

Father Avery was responsible for James’s first drink of beer at the age of 12 …When assisting Father Avery’s work as a DJ at weddings, he would have alcohol served to him to the point of being sick and vomiting…

On one occasion, Father Avery took a group of altar boys to the shore. The boys slept together in the loft. Father Avery would come up and wrestle with the boys and tickle them. During this encounter, VICTIM recalls that Father Avery’s hand slipped to X’s crotch, at least on two or three occasions.

4. March 11, 1993: After a loyal parishioner caught wind of allegations against Avery, Lynn wrote back to her, with assurances Avery was in good standing.

There have never been anything but compliments heard in this office about Father Avery, and I was happy to read you feel the same way about him.

5. March 23, 1993: Notes from meeting Lynn conducted with Avery’s brother, who disputed the allegations of abuse in Vermont.

Concerning [Avery] getting sick at dinner [Avery’s explanation for bizarre behavior that night], BROTHER said he had same meal for dinner and did not get sick. He wonders if VICTIM slipped his brother a “Mickey Finn” or something … BROTHER noted that VICTIM would wear girls’ pants all the time and believes that VICTIM is really fantasizing.

6. August 5, 1993: Letter from a doctor revealing to Lynn that Avery had admitted wrongdoing.

Despite the fact that Father Ed has expressed a great deal of shame … he has acknowledged that the incident “must have happened.”

7. June 20, 2002: From a conversation Lynn had with victim’s brother, about other inappropriate behavior Avery had with minors.

When he was 14 or 15, he was at Avery’s house in Wildwood. He said there had been drinking going on during the day. Avery was driving a van with five or six kids in it. They had all been drinking. The door of the van was open and the gas station attendant saw them. He [stated] that later that night, they were all in the loft. He said that Avery was jumping on each kid. He stated that Avery was “tickling me … felt like he was going to grab me.”

In the mid-1990s, after Avery spent some time undergoing psychiatric evaluation, Lynn helped reassign him to a new church, St. Jerome’s, which also housed an elementary school. It was there that he abused an altar boy in 1999. He also continued to DJ school dances throughout the ’90s. In 2003, after the Philadelphia District Attorney began investigating him, the Archdiocese asked the Vatican to defrock Avery, which it did in 2005.

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Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/news/2013/01/2 ... tZAUwiB.99" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Philly DA On Hot Seat For Lies He Told About Catholic Ch

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D1B wrote:Regarding the priest Joe is defending:
Perhaps more so than anyone else, defrocked priest Edward Avery has been at the heart of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia’s child sex abuse scandal. In March of 2012, Avery pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting a 10-year-old altar boy in 1999. In June, Monsignor William Lynn became the first U.S. Catholic priest convicted of covering up the sex abuse of children, for his failure to expel Avery from the church following an earlier report of abuse. Finally, just last week, Avery recanted his March 2012 confession while testifying as a witness in an ongoing case.

On Tuesday, the watchdog group Bishop Accountability released the first trove of over nearly 6,000 documents it will publish about the scandal in Philadelphia. (It’s released similar documents for other cities.) This initial batch details the first allegations to emerge against Avery, in 1992, by a man who said he was abused as a teenager in the 1970s and 1980s. It was for covering up these allegations–allowing Avery to abuse another child later on–that Lynn was ultimately convicted of child endangerment.


Though these documents were first made public during Lynn’s trial in 2012, they’ve never before been catalogued online, and much of their content hasn’t been reported. Below, among other revealing documents, are some of the most troubling allegations about Avery that Lynn was aware of.
1. March 31, 1992: From a letter William Lynn received from Avery’s first accuser. Lynn had recently taken over as secretary for the clergy, and was in charge of handling such accusations.

I am writing today in the hope that God may be better served. Enclosed is a copy of the most difficult letter I have ever written. It’s a letter I’ve put off writing for over 10 years and wish I had written many years ago. You see I was hurt deeply by Father Avery and at the time ashamed and afraid to confront this issue.

2. From the letter addressed directly to Avery, which Lynn also received.

Then one night after I had helped you at a dance [“The Smiling Padre” Avery moonlighted as a DJ] and had quite a lot to drink I awoke to find your hand on my crotch. I was terrified. I didn’t know what to do so I turned over and pretended to be asleep …Eventually I was able to block the episode out of my mind …

So I forgot about it and let my guard down. This time after a ski trip in Vermont, you committed the same violation of my trust but this time I was sober and awake lying with my eyes closed. I was devastated, confused, and angry … I knew one thing, I didn’t want you to touch me that way and I didn’t want to have sex with you or any other man.

3. September 28th, 1992: Notes from an interview Lynn and another clergyman conducted with the victim, in which Avery’s encouragement of underage drinking, as well as the existence of third abuse incident, were divulged.

Father Avery was responsible for James’s first drink of beer at the age of 12 …When assisting Father Avery’s work as a DJ at weddings, he would have alcohol served to him to the point of being sick and vomiting…

On one occasion, Father Avery took a group of altar boys to the shore. The boys slept together in the loft. Father Avery would come up and wrestle with the boys and tickle them. During this encounter, VICTIM recalls that Father Avery’s hand slipped to X’s crotch, at least on two or three occasions.

4. March 11, 1993: After a loyal parishioner caught wind of allegations against Avery, Lynn wrote back to her, with assurances Avery was in good standing.

There have never been anything but compliments heard in this office about Father Avery, and I was happy to read you feel the same way about him.

5. March 23, 1993: Notes from meeting Lynn conducted with Avery’s brother, who disputed the allegations of abuse in Vermont.

Concerning [Avery] getting sick at dinner [Avery’s explanation for bizarre behavior that night], BROTHER said he had same meal for dinner and did not get sick. He wonders if VICTIM slipped his brother a “Mickey Finn” or something … BROTHER noted that VICTIM would wear girls’ pants all the time and believes that VICTIM is really fantasizing.

6. August 5, 1993: Letter from a doctor revealing to Lynn that Avery had admitted wrongdoing.

Despite the fact that Father Ed has expressed a great deal of shame … he has acknowledged that the incident “must have happened.”

7. June 20, 2002: From a conversation Lynn had with victim’s brother, about other inappropriate behavior Avery had with minors.

When he was 14 or 15, he was at Avery’s house in Wildwood. He said there had been drinking going on during the day. Avery was driving a van with five or six kids in it. They had all been drinking. The door of the van was open and the gas station attendant saw them. He [stated] that later that night, they were all in the loft. He said that Avery was jumping on each kid. He stated that Avery was “tickling me … felt like he was going to grab me.”

In the mid-1990s, after Avery spent some time undergoing psychiatric evaluation, Lynn helped reassign him to a new church, St. Jerome’s, which also housed an elementary school. It was there that he abused an altar boy in 1999. He also continued to DJ school dances throughout the ’90s. In 2003, after the Philadelphia District Attorney began investigating him, the Archdiocese asked the Vatican to defrock Avery, which it did in 2005.

Read More About: Catholic Church, Crime


Read more at http://www.phillymag.com/news/2013/01/2 ... tZAUwiB.99" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm not defending Avery.

I'm addressing Lynn. Lynn abused no children. He is being held accountable for Avery's actions. Avery, who abused multiple children, received a three-year term. Lynn received a six-year term.

And I've said before Lynn was certainly a coward, but you can't criminalize cowardice after the fact, and then indict someone under some new standard of behavior. Or at least you shouldn't be able to do.

Lynn is a fall-guy and was made a target by an ambitious DA eager to show a scalp. And the testimony of Billy Doe, used to indict and convict him, was perjury and everyone knows it. Even the DA probably doesn't believe it.
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JoltinJoe wrote:
D1B wrote:Regarding the priest Joe is defending:
I'm not defending Avery.

I'm addressing Lynn. Lynn abused no children. He is being held accountable for Avery's actions. Avery, who abused multiple children, received a three-year term. Lynn received a six-year term.

And I've said before Lynn was certainly a coward, but you can't criminalize cowardice after the fact, and then indict someone under some new standard of behavior. Or at least you shouldn't be able to do.

Lynn is a fall-guy and was made a target by an ambitious DA eager to show a scalp. And the testimony of Billy Doe, used to indict and convict him, was perjury and everyone knows it. Even the DA probably doesn't believe it.
That's you're opinion. I'm glad Lynn is prison. :thumb:
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All this shit started when we took God out of the public schools and let the Negro in.

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Monsignor Lynn's conviction overturned again.

Philly press now calling Williams out for his misguided vendetta against Lynn.

http://www.delcotimes.com/opinion/20160 ... lliam-lynn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Philly DA Seth Williams has moved to reargue the appellate decision throwing out Monsignor Lynn's conviction, insisting that he will oppose any attempt to release him from prison.

Meanwhile, Newsweek has a blockbuster exclusive. Both the detective who investigated the allegations of the alleged victim, and Williams' star witness, and the psychiatrist who examined him for state, believe the star witness is lying.

Mind you, this is the witness behind that lurid DA/grand jury report.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/01/29/bill ... 17565.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So I've been right about this "witness" from my first post on this subject. Mind you in addition to Lynn, this liar testified against and sent two other innocent people (one a priest) -- with NO other allegations against them -- to prison.

This case is truly emblematic of the hyperbolic lies and distortions of the greater scandals. There are many Billy Does out there.
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