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Of course Clinton is going to win, that really hasn't been in much doubt since the FBI decided she was untouchable back in the summer. I don't see the landslide, though. A landslide would be something on the order of 340-350 electoral votes. Heck, I'm not sure she's going to break 300 electoral votes and I don't see her winning a majority of the popular vote.

Interesting, there's a faithless elector in Washington state who's already said he's not voting for Hillary. Technically, it makes the threshold for her to win to be 271, but I think she comfortably comes in with about 290 some votes.

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BDKJMU wrote:
SDHornet wrote:A couple of things here:

Obviously hilldog wasn't going to get popped this time around. Based on Comey's interpretation of the statue he wasn't going to change anything. This was a last ditch effort by him to appear not to be a political shill, and it cost hilldog a little bit of stress but at the end of the day she was going to win the WH anyways and Comey will still be able to live.

This "do over" wasn't going to change anyone's mind. Sure some polls got tight but folks like JSO (the typical head in the sand donk voter) was exactly what hilldog planned to ride into the WH. 95% of the voting bloc had it's mind made up at the donk convention. Even after proof of a rigged primary and probably even with an indictment they would still vote for hilldog.

Landslide win is now back on the table for hilldog. The best the conks can hope for is that they don't lose the senate by too much. The good news in this is that the conk party as we knew it is done for, and that is a good thing for America.

Oh and this whole Comey thing just reinforces my view that holding the WH is all that matters. Obama was able to stack the executive side of things with his peeps. It's why anyone with a clear head knew a hilldog indictment was never coming regardless of what they found. Obama's guys were never going to let that happen. Same would happen if this would be happening to a conk.
:dunce: If that happens the conk party is going to be no more done for as we knew it than after the 2008 election, when they libtards were saying the exact same thing after the donks had the White House, a near supermajority in Congress, a majority of governorships, and a majority of state legislatures..And within 6 years the conks controlled both houses of Congress & 2/3 of governorships & state legislatures. The cycles will continue. Nothing is changing.
Yup, all that and conks are still utterly clueless on how to win the WH...you know the only election that matters in the grand scheme of things. I've slapped you down on how meaningless holding all the state houses and governorships are, don't make me do it again. :coffee:
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kalm wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Would you go to a casino and recruit slot players to invest in the stock market?
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Spent your weekend studying at the AZ school of analogies, I see.
:tothehand: It's about as close as you can get.
If people do not already invest in the market, it's probably because they feel that they do not know enough about it to make good decisions (well, that, and they may not have enough money).
If people are not registered, it's probably because they don't follow political news. Any thing they know is from what they hear from their environment. Which may, or may not, be the best decision for them.
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Gil Dobie wrote:I went to the county compost site on Saturday. All the leftover Halloween pumpkins were lined up, more than a hundred. One had a picture of Trump and "kin" added to the end, for Trumpkin. I mentioned to the person working that this was the home of the Trumpkin. He laughed and said he thought that was clever and laughed. Sunday I go back, and someone had smashed the Trumpkin. I mentioned to the same person, that some one didn't like the Trumpkin. He laughed and said he thought that was funny that someone would do that.
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One positive about this election, regardless which side you're on, is that many demographics that generally took passive roles in the political process are being more active about it (especially Hispanics). I think that bodes really well for the Democracy and having the nation's changing demographics being better represented in government. Hopefully it continues for the foreseeable future.
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Gil Dobie wrote:I went to the county compost site on Saturday. All the leftover Halloween pumpkins were lined up, more than a hundred. One had a picture of Trump and "kin" added to the end, for Trumpkin. I mentioned to the person working that this was the home of the Trumpkin. He laughed and said he thought that was clever and laughed. Sunday I go back, and someone had smashed the Trumpkin. I mentioned to the same person, that some one didn't like the Trumpkin. He laughed and said he thought that was funny that someone would do that.
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Gil Dobie wrote:I went to the county compost site on Saturday. All the leftover Halloween pumpkins were lined up, more than a hundred. One had a picture of Trump and "kin" added to the end, for Trumpkin. I mentioned to the person working that this was the home of the Trumpkin. He laughed and said he thought that was clever and laughed. Sunday I go back, and someone had smashed the Trumpkin. I mentioned to the same person, that some one didn't like the Trumpkin. He laughed and said he thought that was funny that someone would do that.
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∞∞∞ wrote:One positive about this election, regardless which side you're on, is that many demographics that generally took passive roles in the political process are being more active about it (especially Hispanics). I think that bodes really well for the Democracy and having the nation's changing demographics being better represented in government. Hopefully it continues for the foreseeable future.
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BDKJMU wrote:
:dunce: If that happens the conk party is going to be no more done for as we knew it than after the 2008 election, when they libtards were saying the exact same thing after the donks had the White House, a near supermajority in Congress, a majority of governorships, and a majority of state legislatures..And within 6 years the conks controlled both houses of Congress & 2/3 of governorships & state legislatures. The cycles will continue. Nothing is changing.
Yup, all that and conks are still utterly clueless on how to win the WH...you know the only election that matters in the grand scheme of things. I've slapped you down on how meaningless holding all the state houses and governorships are, don't make me do it again. :coffee:
Huh? Meaningless? Certainly the Presidency is the biggest prize out there, but the Dems seem to be awfully worried about trying to claw back some of the things they've lost since 2010. Do they not know something you do? :rofl:
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93henfan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:One positive about this election, regardless which side you're on, is that many demographics that generally took passive roles in the political process are being more active about it (especially Hispanics). I think that bodes really well for the Democracy and having the nation's changing demographics being better represented in government. Hopefully it continues for the foreseeable future.
Yeah, **** white people!
I've actually seen more of a diversification of the makeup of those who are calling themselves Republicans, especially those who are getting involved in politics for the first time and questioning why exactly are they "supposed to be" Democrats from day one. :thumb: I've talked to at least over 100 minorities the last two to three months just around the area in Dover.

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Grizalltheway wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That's a great story, grandpa. Tell us about the time the squirrels were getting into your bird feeder?
Don't act like you don't love the Smashing Trumpkins.
Eh...their early stuff is good. :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote:
SDHornet wrote: Yup, all that and conks are still utterly clueless on how to win the WH...you know the only election that matters in the grand scheme of things. I've slapped you down on how meaningless holding all the state houses and governorships are, don't make me do it again. :coffee:
Huh? Meaningless? Certainly the Presidency is the biggest prize out there, but the Dems seem to be awfully worried about trying to claw back some of the things they've lost since 2010. Do they not know something you do? :rofl:
And what have conks done since controlling Congress? Oh yeah that's right, nothing. :coffee:

And then conks wonder why and how a loon like Trump highjacks their nomination. :lol: :dunce: :lol: :rofl:
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DSUrocks07 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Yeah, **** white people!
I've actually seen more of a diversification of the makeup of those who are calling themselves Republicans, especially those who are getting involved in politics for the first time and questioning why exactly are they "supposed to be" Democrats from day one. :thumb: I've talked to at least over 100 minorities the last two to three months just around the area in Dover.

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That's awesome. Republicans, among other parties, need to attract changing demographics to continue the pushing the nation towards a true representative democracy. As far as I'm concerned, it's never a bad thing to involve as many people in the political process as possible, regardless of party affiliation(s).

Although I'm a Democrat, a single-party in control of the government stunts the growth of ideas. Questioning and challenging ideas is how we've grown as a nation (and species in general).
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SDHornet wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Huh? Meaningless? Certainly the Presidency is the biggest prize out there, but the Dems seem to be awfully worried about trying to claw back some of the things they've lost since 2010. Do they not know something you do? :rofl:
And what have conks done since controlling Congress? Oh yeah that's right, nothing. :coffee:

And then conks wonder why and how a loon like Trump highjacks their nomination. :lol: :dunce: :lol: :rofl:
Who said anything about having to do something - you said all that control (and you didn't even mention Congress until the reply) was meaningless. I'm sure Obama would say that having Congress in Dem hands would've been more useful during his Presidency. The Presidency is certainly the big prize, but plenty of meaning involved in all the offices under it.

And the Donks were close to having a loon hijack their nomination before they made sure behind the scenes that it wouldn't happen. Both established, status quo parties have a big issue on their hands of how to handle the growing populists that are dead set against status quo (even if they're not really for anything in particular after that). Once the election is over tomorrow none of that goes away.
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Although I'm a Democrat, a single-party in control of the government stunts the growth of ideas. Questioning and challenging ideas is how we've grown as a nation (and species in general).
Now if we could only get the two parties to start talking to each other again we could possibly start growing as a nation. However, I haven't seen a willingness from either side in about the past 12 years to think we're going to turn a corner in that regard anytime soon.
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GannonFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:
Although I'm a Democrat, a single-party in control of the government stunts the growth of ideas. Questioning and challenging ideas is how we've grown as a nation (and species in general).
Now if we could only get the two parties to start talking to each other again we could possibly start growing as a nation. However, I haven't seen a willingness from either side in about the past 12 years to think we're going to turn a corner in that regard anytime soon.
Oh, stop it. If Hildapooch wins narrowly tomorrow, there will be narrow adjustments of both parties at the margins, but they'll hate each other as much as ever.

And if Trump wins narrowly tomorrow, there will be narrow adjustments of both parties at the margins, but they'll hate each other as much as ever.

And there still won't be a centrist third party.
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Latest from WikiLeaks is that CNN emailed the DNC, specifically its research director Lauren Dillon, to ask what questions they wanted CNN to ask Trump in its debate.

Should CNN be allowed to host anymore debates after this episode and with Donna Brazile providing Hillary her questions in advance? It is now crystal clear that the CNN debates were 100% rigged.
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Dow up 345 on Comey Part Trois.

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GannonFan wrote:
SDHornet wrote: And what have conks done since controlling Congress? Oh yeah that's right, nothing. :coffee:

And then conks wonder why and how a loon like Trump highjacks their nomination. :lol: :dunce: :lol: :rofl:
Who said anything about having to do something - you said all that control (and you didn't even mention Congress until the reply) was meaningless. I'm sure Obama would say that having Congress in Dem hands would've been more useful during his Presidency. The Presidency is certainly the big prize, but plenty of meaning involved in all the offices under it.

And the Donks were close to having a loon hijack their nomination before they made sure behind the scenes that it wouldn't happen. Both established, status quo parties have a big issue on their hands of how to handle the growing populists that are dead set against status quo (even if they're not really for anything in particular after that). Once the election is over tomorrow none of that goes away.
It is meaningless if they can leverage it for a WH victory. As proven by Obama, holding the WH is all that matters because executive fiat. :coffee:
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93henfan wrote:Latest from WikiLeaks is that CNN emailed the DNC, specifically its research director Lauren Dillon, to ask what questions they wanted CNN to ask Trump in its debate.

Should CNN be allowed to host anymore debates after this episode and with Donna Brazile providing Hillary her questions in advance? It is now crystal clear that the CNN debates were 100% rigged.
Proof of what any one with a functioning brain stem already knew. :nod:
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Obama is saying a vote for Trump is a vote against all we've accomplished under his presidency.

Someone please list his accomplishments so I know wtf he's talking about
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Bronco wrote:Obama is saying a vote for Trump is a vote against all we've accomplished under his presidency.

Someone please list his accomplishments so I know wtf he's talking about
Well, for starters, we don't have to continue to guard all that money now that we gave it back to Iran.
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CAA Flagship wrote:
Bronco wrote:Obama is saying a vote for Trump is a vote against all we've accomplished under his presidency.

Someone please list his accomplishments so I know wtf he's talking about
Well, for starters, we don't have to continue to guard all that money now that we gave it back to Iran.
Based on internet meme's making the rounds on FB, he also ended the Iraq and Afghanistan war, and saved the stock market. Basically we would all be living in a post-apocalyptic world if it wasn't for him.
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Bin Laden?

Oh no, right, that was all Hillary. My bad.
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∞∞∞ wrote:One positive about this election, regardless which side you're on, is that many demographics that generally took passive roles in the political process are being more active about it (especially Hispanics). I think that bodes really well for the Democracy and having the nation's changing demographics being better represented in government. Hopefully it continues for the foreseeable future.
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