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SeattleGriz wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
So you're saying that Jesus was the first human to make that observation?
or you're saying that Christianity (Catholic Church) was the first to make good on that observation..?
Or Other?

Not sure I'm following you
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What I am saying, is that Christianity says we are all created under God, and thus, we are all equal. It was Christianity that paved the way for the equal treatment of all human beings.
So Christianity is the only religion to assert the divinity of man? We are only created by the Christian God? Does he have acwhite beard too?
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Re: Christianity Declining

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Chizzang wrote:AZ will tell you (with a straight face)
Its perfectly cool to call somebody an idiot for being a Liberal
and then two threads over start crying foul
when somebody mentions the absurdity of certain religious beliefs



Oh the irony.... :coffee:
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Also, Andy.

Among others. :nod:
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Re: Christianity Declining

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SeattleGriz wrote:
Vidav wrote:
Christianity doesn't really preach that. You know that, right? :coffee:
I know what you are saying, but don't believe you are correct. I get the fact that men are the dominant force in the ancient scriptures, and thus religions (Islam!), but that is not what is preached in mainstream Christianity. Good thought, but off on a bunny trail.
This ^ is awesome
Yes its in the text but ignored
Indeed more evidence that what you believe is not actually Christianity

What the average American Christian believes is distinctly NOT Christian doctrine
it is a highly morphed customized for modern consumption version

And you know what: I THINK THAT'S SMART
Because the Fire and Brimstone sh!t is embarrassing for adults
in the light of what we know today


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And have we forgotten that a pastor from Boise has been in the worst jail in Iran for the last two years being tortured just about every day, and the current administration hasn't done much of anything about it?
You're as big a drama queen as Z and JSO... :lol:

Maybe they're giving the preacher the ol' Abu Ghraib treatment with the dogs? Maybe he should try to peddle his superstitious nonsense somewhere else. :coffee:
Id choose dogs pissing on me than getting hooked on H and make to detox every other week. For fuck sake stop defending the Iranians for nothing more that stupid fucking frat hazing shit!
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No, equality of humans. Woman are equal to men. Blacks are equal to Whites.

No alter ego. Tapatalk again putting an incorrect name on my post.
Yeah nobody ever thought about that until after Mary fvcked God.
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Re: Christianity Declining

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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:AZ will tell you (with a straight face)
Its perfectly cool to call somebody an idiot for being a Liberal
and then two threads over start crying foul
when somebody mentions the absurdity of certain religious beliefs



Oh the irony.... :coffee:
:nod:

Also, Andy.

Among others. :nod:
I do EXACTLY what you do but from the opposite direction.
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Chizzang wrote:AZ will tell you (with a straight face)
Its perfectly cool to call somebody an idiot for being a Liberal
and then two threads over start crying foul
when somebody mentions the absurdity of certain religious beliefs



Oh the irony.... :coffee:
You're so full of shit your eyes are brown. I have have NEVER called someone an idiot simply for being a liberal. I mean, perhaps it's just pure coincidence that the vast majority of liberals appear to BE idiots.... :kisswink:
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Re: Christianity Declining

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Chizzang wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
I know what you are saying, but don't believe you are correct. I get the fact that men are the dominant force in the ancient scriptures, and thus religions (Islam!), but that is not what is preached in mainstream Christianity. Good thought, but off on a bunny trail.
This ^ is awesome
Yes its in the text but ignored
Indeed more evidence that what you believe is not actually Christianity

What the average American Christian believes is distinctly NOT Christian doctrine
it is a highly morphed customized for modern consumption version

And you know what: I THINK THAT'S SMART
Because the Fire and Brimstone sh!t is embarrassing for adults
in the light of what we know today


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So why, do you suppose, it's completely politically INCORRECT to call out the ONLY major religion that has NOT morphed and customized for modern consumption?

Christian? Let's verbally abuse, mock and bully him until he runs.

Muslim? Let's handle him with kid gloves, allow entire cultures to be changed to accommodate HIM, and NEVER (oh, the HORROR) use the words MUSLIM and TERRORIST in the same sentence.
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Re: Christianity Declining

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Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Post after post of insutls, mocking and bullying on this thread alone, and yet I'M the drama queen...

All y'all Christian bashers are some in-denial motherfuckers...
Aren't you always preaching about having a thick skin? I don't think countering SG's nonsensical spinning of Christianity with facts constitutes bullying. Toughen up, buttercup. :coffee:
Congratulations! You have just been awarded the Katherine award for being an oppositional defiant bitch.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:Post after post of insutls, mocking and bullying on this thread alone, and yet I'M the drama queen...

All y'all Christian bashers are some in-denial motherfuckers...
Aren't you always preaching about having a thick skin? I don't think countering SG's nonsensical spinning of Christianity with facts constitutes bullying. Toughen up, buttercup. :coffee:
See, it's not the act of bashing that pisses me off. It's the singling out of Christianity because it's an easy target.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Aren't you always preaching about having a thick skin? I don't think countering SG's nonsensical spinning of Christianity with facts constitutes bullying. Toughen up, buttercup. :coffee:
See, it's not the act of bashing that pisses me off. It's the singling out of Christianity because it's an easy target.
That is the norm on this board. Much of it is like Hebrews 5:12.
You have been believers so long now that you ought to be teaching others. Instead, you need someone to teach you again the basic things about God's word. You are like babies who need milk and cannot eat solid food
The "Defenders Against Christianity" actually display the fact they know nothing and need to be fed milk. For example, lets talk about KatherineAllTheWay and how she states facts have refuted my posts. What facts? I have yet to see anyone dispute my claim that Christianity is the basis for equality among people.
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Re: Christianity Declining

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Christianity is really dumb. Seriously. Along with all religions. The only difference is that Christians are really prominent in our society. You want to believe in horse shit, you get to be made fun of.

It's no different than everyone making fun of Spanos. There is no difference at all.
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Vidav wrote:Christianity is really dumb. Seriously. Along with all religions. The only difference is that Christians are really prominent in our society. You want to believe in horse shit, you get to be made fun of.

It's no different than everyone making fun of Spanos. There is no difference at all.
:rofl:

Classic dude. How is Christianity dumb? This ought to be a hoot. Let me get a beer before you lay out the grand plan of the universe.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
See, it's not the act of bashing that pisses me off. It's the singling out of Christianity because it's an easy target.
That is the norm on this board. Much of it is like Hebrews 5:12.
You have been believers so long now that you ought to be teaching others. Instead, you need someone to teach you again the basic things about God's word. You are like babies who need milk and cannot eat solid food
The "Defenders Against Christianity" actually display the fact they know nothing and need to be fed milk. For example, lets talk about KatherineAllTheWay and how she states facts have refuted my posts. What facts? I have yet to see anyone dispute my claim that Christianity is the basis for equality among people.
I'm talking about society, not this board.
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Vidav wrote:Christianity is really dumb. Seriously. Along with all religions. The only difference is that Christians are really prominent in our society. You want to believe in horse shit, you get to be made fun of.

It's no different than everyone making fun of Spanos. There is no difference at all.
:rofl:

Classic dude. How is Christianity dumb? This ought to be a hoot. Let me get a beer before you lay out the grand plan of the universe.
Just like most other religions, it tries to explain things with magic instead of with logic or reason. Christianity is just popular right now. Seriously, all religions are really stupid. Explain things you don't understand by creating a god. I just don't understand how otherwise smart people can buy into this stupid shit.
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Vidav wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
:rofl:

Classic dude. How is Christianity dumb? This ought to be a hoot. Let me get a beer before you lay out the grand plan of the universe.
Just like most other religions, it tries to explain things with magic instead of with logic or reason. Christianity is just popular right now. Seriously, all religions are really stupid. Explain things you don't understand by creating a god. I just don't understand how otherwise smart people can buy into this stupid shit.
I know of NOONE who takes the bible literally like that. No one. I know of no one who believes the world is 6,000 years old...that Moses lives 500 years (or whatever it is the bible says)....etc., etc.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Vidav wrote:
Just like most other religions, it tries to explain things with magic instead of with logic or reason. Christianity is just popular right now. Seriously, all religions are really stupid. Explain things you don't understand by creating a god. I just don't understand how otherwise smart people can buy into this stupid shit.
I know of NOONE who takes the bible literally like that. No one. I know of no one who believes the world is 6,000 years old...that Moses lives 500 years (or whatever it is the bible says)....etc., etc.
Okay, so if they don't believe their holy book, why are they Christians? :coffee:
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Vidav wrote:Christianity is really dumb. Seriously. Along with all religions. The only difference is that Christians are really prominent in our society. You want to believe in horse shit, you get to be made fun of.

It's no different than everyone making fun of Spanos. There is no difference at all.
:nod:

If it makes you a better person than who am I to be against it?

Other than that, it's kind of a creepy, far fetched fantasy belief that gets way more credit than it deserves.

It's Spandos worthy indeed.
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Vidav wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
I know of NOONE who takes the bible literally like that. No one. I know of no one who believes the world is 6,000 years old...that Moses lives 500 years (or whatever it is the bible says)....etc., etc.
Okay, so if they don't believe their holy book, why are they Christians? :coffee:
Oh, good Lord. Surely you're not that thick. :dunce:
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Vidav wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:
:rofl:

Classic dude. How is Christianity dumb? This ought to be a hoot. Let me get a beer before you lay out the grand plan of the universe.
Just like most other religions, it tries to explain things with magic instead of with logic or reason. Christianity is just popular right now. Seriously, all religions are really stupid. Explain things you don't understand by creating a god. I just don't understand how otherwise smart people can buy into this stupid shit.
What things are currently being explained by magic? Please list your top 5.

As to your lame statement of magic, a good example I like to use is the Christmas tsunami of 2004. In the past, it would have been attributed to God, but we now know it was due to a huge underwater earthquake. Seems to me much of the shit you are objecting to happened well in the past, when people didn't have the means to discover the true source. Good one Vidav, you are smarter than cavemen!

Do you not realize that Christianity was the most influential driver of the scientific method? It started with the monasteries and carried over to the first Universities. I need to confirm this one, but all but two of the first 108 Universities were Christian. Yeah, that surely sounds like believing in the spaghetti monster.

Lastly, how do you know your version of reality is correct?
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Wedgebuster wrote:A lot of folks act as if they follow a religion largely to avoid annoying confrontations over "belief" from other people, more so friends, and even more so family members. It's a real hassle having a swacked out Jesus freak in your face, argument is fruitless, and you do not want to win, you just want to get away.

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Yep. Never argue with an evangelical christian if you're tired. If they weren't so pushy about their particular brand of superstitious nonsense they wouldn't be the butt of nearly as many jokes.

BTW, who said: "The United States are in no sense a christian nation."?
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SeattleGriz wrote:
Vidav wrote:
Just like most other religions, it tries to explain things with magic instead of with logic or reason. Christianity is just popular right now. Seriously, all religions are really stupid. Explain things you don't understand by creating a god. I just don't understand how otherwise smart people can buy into this stupid ****.
What things are currently being explained by magic? Please list your top 5.

As to your lame statement of magic, a good example I like to use is the Christmas tsunami of 2004. In the past, it would have been attributed to God, but we now know it was due to a huge underwater earthquake. Seems to me much of the **** you are objecting to happened well in the past, when people didn't have the means to discover the true source. Good one Vidav, you are smarter than cavemen!

Do you not realize that Christianity was the most influential driver of the scientific method? It started with the monasteries and carried over to the first Universities. I need to confirm this one, but all but two of the first 108 Universities were Christian. Yeah, that surely sounds like believing in the spaghetti monster.

Lastly, how do you know your version of reality is correct?
Lets start with heaven. Tell us about the science behind heaven, seed tick. :coffee:
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Grizalltheway wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:So, what are we going to do when Christianity actually declines and human value follows?

Are we going to accept the Darwinian response and say, "fuck em", you should have been more fit?

Without Christianity, half you pussies would have been killed for being inferior. Just saying.
Hmm, the godless Nordic countries seem to be doing okay. Like, it was actually a big deal when some dude went on a shooting spree, not just a weekly occurrence.
Not true. The Church exists in Scandinavia; it's mainly of the Lutheran persuasion. And it's so prevalent, the government even subsidizes it with a church tax.

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When being an agnostic is as bad as psychology and evolution...

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SuperHornet wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote: Hmm, the godless Nordic countries seem to be doing okay. Like, it was actually a big deal when some dude went on a shooting spree, not just a weekly occurrence.
Not true. The Church exists in Scandinavia; it's mainly of the Lutheran persuasion. And it's so prevalent, the government even subsidizes it with a church tax.

Still wanna be European?
Even their churches are liberal. :coffee:
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