Secret Service Security Lapses

[Ivytalk]

I'm not defending him (and I wouldn't) but Obama has NOTHING to do with Secret Service agents not doing their job. When it comes to security, regardless if Obama is home or not, isn't laxed. The men on the ground, those monitoring ground sensors, those at the doors, etc.. are to blame. It's common for them to do tests like this, when the first family isn't home. That was my first thought. Who authorized the door alarm to be muted? Why weren't the spotters on the roof ready to fire? Where was the communication breakdown?

If Pelosi broke a toilet, you all would find a way to blame Obama.

This was kind of my point ^ but with less words
Secret Service is supposed to be a *Crack Team of Hot Shot.. blh blah blah"

Instead its like a bunch of fat cops in the mall parking lot

Paul Blart, call your answering service!

[travelinman67]

Kleanie, you need to review Pierson's conressional testimony. She confirmed long-standing protocols when dealing with security breaches HAD BEEN CHANGED to be less lethal.

There are WELL PLANNED reasons why Secret Service should be an apolitical agency. Obama is a fucking MORON and SHOULD NEVER HAVE INTERCEDED after the Columbian prostitutes incident, and the Miriam Carey shooting.

This is simply another example of Obama arrogantly, recklessly, supplanting the decisions and well reasoned practices of military and national security agencies. Remember, his skills are as a community organizer.

The dude is a trained lawyer. By that token, what was Bush doing as President? He was part owner of a baseball team.

Ibanez, your remarks are absurd.

Obama made the decision to fire Mark Sullivan when dozens of Agents and military support personnel (males) went out and picked up some hookers. Obama felt replacing testosterone driven males with gay/transgendered, multi-cultural, socioeconomically oppressed, physically challenged, women would "fix" the "testosterone" "problem".

Obama CREATED this situation by firing QUALIFIED agents and hiring UNQUALIFIED nincompoops.

Quit rationalizing incompetence.

[Ibanez]

The dude is a trained lawyer. By that token, what was Bush doing as President? He was part owner of a baseball team.

Ibanez, your remarks are absurd.

Obama made the decision to fire Mark Sullivan when dozens of Agents and military support personnel (males) went out and picked up some hookers. Obama felt replacing testosterone driven males with gay/transgendered, multi-cultural, socioeconomically oppressed, physically challenged, women would "fix" the "testosterone" "problem".

Obama CREATED this situation by firing QUALIFIED agents and hiring UNQUALIFIED nincompoops.

Quit rationalizing incompetence.

I'll stop being "absurd" as soon as you stop making absolutely ridiculous comments that have no bearing on reality.

Those agents that got whores and then refused to pay should've been dismissed and that's it. But, that had nothing to do with agents in 2014 not protecting the White House.

Nothing you have said explains why the men on the roof, monitoring ground sensors, manning the doors, monitoring video, etc...failed to do their jobs. You have an irrational hatred of Democrats. Obama could cure Aids, and you'd find something about that to bitch about.

[travelinman67]

Ibanez, your remarks are absurd.

Obama made the decision to fire Mark Sullivan when dozens of Agents and military support personnel (males) went out and picked up some hookers. Obama felt replacing testosterone driven males with gay/transgendered, multi-cultural, socioeconomically oppressed, physically challenged, women would "fix" the "testosterone" "problem".

Obama CREATED this situation by firing QUALIFIED agents and hiring UNQUALIFIED nincompoops.

Quit rationalizing incompetence.

I'll stop being "absurd" as soon as you stop making absolutely ridiculous comments that have no bearing on reality.

Those agents that got whores and then refused to pay should've been dismissed and that's it. But, that had nothing to do with agents in 2014 not protecting the White House.

Nothing you have said explains why the men on the roof, monitoring ground sensors, manning the doors, monitoring video, etc...failed to do their jobs. You have an irrational hatred of Democrats. Obama could cure Aids, and you'd find something about that to bitch about.

Obama replaced HIGHLY QUALIFIED SS Director Mark Sullivan with UNQUALIFIED SS Agent Julie Pierson. Why?

Because Sullivan allowed his subordinates to fuck off, AND to demonstrate a female could do the job equally well. Pierson's primary qualifications were length of service and having been a team leader. There were other agents more qualified, but were passed over solely due to gender discrimination.

BY HER OWN ADMISSION DURING HER CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY, SHE HAD CHANGED WH ENGAGEMENT POLICY, AFTER THE MIRIAM CAREY SHOOTING, TO LESS LETHAL ENGAGEMENT.

The issue is hiring for political agenda rather than merit.

ANY TIME THAT OCCURS, REGARDLESS OF THE POLITICAL PARTY RESPONSIBLE, THE OUTCOME WILL BE PROBLEMATIC.

When it involves security and defense, lives and national security are jeopardized.

Like Densedawg, you have kneejerk raced to Obama's defense ignoring the facts of the issue.

It wouldn't matter WHO politicized the hiring WHICH CREATED THE PROBLEM: Doing so reflects failed leadership.

[Ibanez]

You are a moron. Go back and read where I state I'm not defending and would never defend Obama. You're a knee jerk republican who thinks his shit don't stink.

[travelinman67]

Ibanez, your remarks are absurd.

Obama made the decision to fire Mark Sullivan when dozens of Agents and military support personnel (males) went out and picked up some hookers. Obama felt replacing testosterone driven males with gay/transgendered, multi-cultural, socioeconomically oppressed, physically challenged, women would "fix" the "testosterone" "problem".

Obama CREATED this situation by firing QUALIFIED agents and hiring UNQUALIFIED nincompoops.

Quit rationalizing incompetence.

... You have an irrational hatred of Democrats. Obama could cure Aids, and you'd find something about that to bitch about.

Not defending Obama?

Okey Dokey, Kalm.

[Ibanez]

I'm not defending him (and I wouldn't) but Obama has NOTHING to do with Secret Service agents not doing their job. .

Hmmmm.

[Ibanez]

... You have an irrational hatred of Democrats. Obama could cure Aids, and you'd find something about that to bitch about.

Not defending Obama?

Okey Dokey, Kalm.

That's not a defense, that's a statement of fact. Admit it. He could do something truly great and you'd tear him down just because.

[travelinman67]

Not defending Obama?

Okey Dokey, Kalm.

That's not a defense, that's a statement of fact. Admit it. He could do something truly great and you'd tear him down just because.

He did not ask Hil to be his runningmate.

Thank you, President Obama.

[Ibanez]

That's not a defense, that's a statement of fact. Admit it. He could do something truly great and you'd tear him down just because.

He did not ask Hil to be his runningmate.

Thank you, President Obama.

Well, you got me there. Hillary is a train wreck.

[CitadelGrad]

He did not ask Hil to be his runningmate.

Thank you, President Obama.

Well, you got me there. Hillary is a train wreck.

Yep. And all of the casualties of the War On Women will make her the next POTUS.

God help us all.

[AZGrizFan]

Something smells, I don't believe one man got passed 7 levels of Security. This is the worlds best trained Security Force, with snipers, guard dogs, M4's and other good shyt and you want me to believe this lie.

Maybe the secret service thought the Obamas were home?