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NEW YORK (AP) — From the day of his 1989 arrest in a deadly New York City shooting, Jonathan Fleming said he had been more than 1,000 miles away, on a vacation at Disney World. Despite having documents to back him up, he was convicted of murder.

Prosecutors now agree with him, and Fleming left a Brooklyn court as a free man Tuesday after spending nearly a quarter-century behind bars.

Fleming, now 51, tearfully hugged his lawyers as relatives cheered, "Thank you, God!" after a judge dismissed the case. A key witness had recanted, newly found witnesses implicated someone else and prosecutors' review of authorities' files turned up documents supporting Fleming's alibi.

"After 25 years, come hug your mother," Patricia Fleming said, and her only child did.

"I feel wonderful," he said afterward. "I've always had faith. I knew that this day would come someday."

The exoneration, first reported by the Daily News, comes amid scrutiny of Brooklyn prosecutors' process for reviewing questionable convictions, scrutiny that comes partly from the new district attorney, Kenneth Thompson. He said in a statement that after a monthslong review, he decided to drop the case against Fleming because of "key alibi facts that place Fleming in Florida at the time of the murder."

..View gallery Jonathan Fleming, hugs his attorney Anthony Mayol while his other attorney Taylor Koss applaud in Br …From the start, Fleming told authorities he had been in Orlando when a friend, Darryl "Black" Rush, was shot to death in Brooklyn early on Aug. 15, 1989. Authorities suggested the shooting was motivated by a dispute over money.

Fleming had plane tickets, videos and postcards from his trip, said his lawyers, Anthony Mayol and Taylor Koss. But prosecutors at the time suggested he could have made a quick round-trip plane jaunt to be in New York, and a woman testified that she had seen him shoot Rush. He was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison and was due to have his first parole hearing soon.

The witness recanted her testimony soon after Fleming's 1990 conviction, saying she had lied so police would cut her loose for an unrelated arrest, but Fleming lost his appeals.

The defense asked the district attorney's office to review the case last year.

Defense investigators found previously untapped witnesses who pointed to someone else as the gunman, the attorneys said, declining to give the witnesses' or potential suspect's names before prosecutors look into them. The district attorney's office declined to comment on its investigative plans.

..View gallery Valerie Brown, right, meets her ex-husband Jonathan Fleming as he arrives at Brooklyn's Supreme cour …Prosecutors' review produced a hotel receipt that Fleming paid in Florida about five hours before the shooting — a document that police evidently had found in Fleming's pocket when they arrested him. Prosecutors also found an October 1989 Orlando police letter to New York detectives, saying some employees at an Orlando hotel had told investigators they remembered Fleming.

Neither the receipt nor the police letter had been provided to Fleming's initial defense lawyer, despite rules that generally require investigators to turn over possibly exculpatory material.

Patricia Fleming, 71, was with her son in Orlando at the time of the crime and testified at his trial.

"I knew he didn't do it, because I was there," she said. "When they gave my son 25 to life, I thought I would die in that courtroom."

Still, she said, "I never did give up, because I knew he was innocent."

..View gallery Jonathan Fleming, left, reaches to hug his mother Tricia Fleming in Brooklyn's Supreme court after a …Thompson took office in January, after unseating longtime District Attorney Charles "Joe" Hynes with a campaign that focused partly on questionable convictions on Hynes' watch. Hynes had created a special conviction integrity unit to review false-conviction claims, but some saw the effort as slow-moving and defensive.

Thompson has agreed to dismiss the murder convictions of two men who spent more than 20 years in prison for a triple homicide. He also dropped his predecessor's appeal challenging the 2013 release of another man who had served 22 years in prison on a questioned murder conviction.

On Tuesday, Jonathan Fleming left court with an arm around his mother's shoulders and the process of rebuilding his life ahead of him.

Asked about his plans, he said: "I'm going to go eat dinner with my mother and my family, and I'm going to live the rest of my life."

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He had a verifiable alibi and was still convicted? Did his lawyer not appeal the decision?
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Where did this happ...oh yeah. That freedom palace known as NY.
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Pwns wrote:He had a verifiable alibi and was still convicted? Did his lawyer not appeal the decision?

How the hell do you send a man to jail when he has proof that he was in Florida??? Can someone tell me this. :coffee:
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Pwns wrote:He had a verifiable alibi and was still convicted? Did his lawyer not appeal the decision?
No photos. Never heard or read about this story before...but im just gonna take a shot in the dark and say that Mr. Fleming is black.
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DSUrocks07 wrote:
Pwns wrote:He had a verifiable alibi and was still convicted? Did his lawyer not appeal the decision?
No photos. Never heard or read about this story before...but im just gonna take a shot in the dark and say that Mr. Fleming is black.
You would be correct.
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grizzaholic wrote:Where did this happ...oh yeah. That freedom palace known as NY.
I believe the #1 state in the Union for wrong convictions is Texas...
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Chizzang wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:Where did this happ...oh yeah. That freedom palace known as NY.
I believe the #1 state in the Union for wrong convictions is Texas...
The Bastion of right wing Freedom - so what's your point exactly..?
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Chizzang wrote:
grizzaholic wrote:Where did this happ...oh yeah. That freedom palace known as NY.
I believe the #1 state in the Union for wrong convictions is Texas...
The Bastion of right wing Freedom - so what's your point exactly..?

Well there are wrongful convictions and then there is this one :shock:
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Another example of why I shake my head when people say we have the best court system in the world as though it is self evident and without presenting any measurement or metric in support of saying it.

I don't have the measurement or metric for saying it's NOT the best either. But I do wonder. To me our court system is not about finding the truth. It's not about finding the truth when it comes to criminal prosecutions and it's not about finding the truth when it comes to things like Constitutional questions either.

It's more about lawyers seeing who can win and Judges getting chances to get their personal opinions about how things should be imposed. At least that's the way I see it.

In any case I think this thing where we're always saying we have this GREAT legal system is totally without basis. People just say it as though by reflex. It's like it's what people are supposed to say.
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mrklean wrote:
THIS IS WHY I GOT OUT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT :thumbdown:
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carrying a flashlight after hours at Kmart is not law enforcement, Mr Klean

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CID1990 wrote:
mrklean wrote:
THIS IS WHY I GOT OUT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT :thumbdown:
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carrying a flashlight after hours at Kmart is not law enforcement, Mr Klean

neither is the MPs
Yeah, thats what you want to belive............lol :ohno:
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JohnStOnge wrote:Another example of why I shake my head when people say we have the best court system in the world as though it is self evident and without presenting any measurement or metric in support of saying it.

I don't have the measurement or metric for saying it's NOT the best either. But I do wonder. To me our court system is not about finding the truth. It's not about finding the truth when it comes to criminal prosecutions and it's not about finding the truth when it comes to things like Constitutional questions either.

It's more about lawyers seeing who can win and Judges getting chances to get their personal opinions about how things should be imposed. At least that's the way I see it.

In any case I think this thing where we're always saying we have this GREAT legal system is totally without basis. People just say it as though by reflex. It's like it's what people are supposed to say.

I don't care about being the best. Just to the right thing. This guy was in Florida with his family and the DA said, "Fuck it, Hes going to jail". Fuck the evidence, fuck his Mother, fuck the security cameras at Disney World. Hes going to jail.
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DSUrocks07 wrote:
Pwns wrote:He had a verifiable alibi and was still convicted? Did his lawyer not appeal the decision?
No photos. Never heard or read about this story before...but im just gonna take a shot in the dark and say that Mr. Fleming is black.
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The dude is black. You know he committed a lot of other crimes for which he wasn't arrested. He deserved 25 years anyway.
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CitadelGrad wrote:The dude is black. You know he committed a lot of other crimes for which he wasn't arrested. He deserved 25 years anyway.
He's from SC. He can't help it :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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CitadelGrad wrote:The dude is black. You know he committed a lot of other crimes for which he wasn't arrested. He deserved 25 years anyway.
Exactly

Nothing's perfect and we are going to miss one here and there. One or two in several millions of cases is going to happen. I would bet there were many more that deserved to go to prison and got off but I don't hear anyone crying like a bitch over those numbers.

Same thing as drunk driving.

Sober drivers have a lot more accidents (13 times) and kill more people than the one or two drunk drivers do, but everyone knee jerks because of an advertising campaign. :jack:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:The dude is black. You know he committed a lot of other crimes for which he wasn't arrested. He deserved 25 years anyway.
Exactly

Nothing's perfect and we are going to miss one here and there. One or two in several millions of cases is going to happen. I would bet there were many more that deserved to go to prison and got off but I don't hear anyone crying like a bitch over those numbers.

Same thing as drunk driving.

Sober drivers have a lot more accidents (13 times) and kill more people than the one or two drunk drivers do, but everyone knee jerks because of an advertising campaign. :jack:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:The dude is black. You know he committed a lot of other crimes for which he wasn't arrested. He deserved 25 years anyway.
Exactly

Nothing's perfect and we are going to miss one here and there. One or two in several millions of cases is going to happen. I would bet there were many more that deserved to go to prison and got off but I don't hear anyone crying like a bitch over those numbers.

Same thing as drunk driving.

Sober drivers have a lot more accidents (13 times) and kill more people than the one or two drunk drivers do, but everyone knee jerks because of an advertising campaign. :jack:

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kalm wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Exactly

Nothing's perfect and we are going to miss one here and there. One or two in several millions of cases is going to happen. I would bet there were many more that deserved to go to prison and got off but I don't hear anyone crying like a bitch over those numbers.

Same thing as drunk driving.

Sober drivers have a lot more accidents (13 times) and kill more people than the one or two drunk drivers do, but everyone knee jerks because of an advertising campaign. :jack:
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Badass still wears that shirt every time he comes to Missoula. Pols was giving those shirts away in fact he bought me a drink to take one of them.

Awww it must suck failing like you do oh wait......that's success in the libtopia :roll:
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Not the story I heard, but conks are big on revisionist history...
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Did you hear about the guy that wanted to fight me because of the shirt?

Probably not but the "altercation" was in the paper............. Wonder if he could read it?


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mrklean wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:The dude is black. You know he committed a lot of other crimes for which he wasn't arrested. He deserved 25 years anyway.
He's from SC. He can't help it :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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To me the frequency with which our system convicts people who are not guilty is unacceptable. On one hand I do not know what the percentage is. No way to know that. On the other hand I think what we see…the cases in which it becomes absolutely clear that innocent people were convicted…is the tip of the iceberg.

That's strictly personal opinion. Gut feeling. But one thing you can see is that prosecutors want to "get" somebody and they do that. At least I THINK you should be able to see that.

Then there's the other side. How frequently does our system actually correctly convict people who ARE guilty.

I'm telling you: This thing about us having a great justice system is REALLY questionable if you really sit down and look at things. About the only thing it's really great for, I think, is enriching lawyers.
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