North Dakota Fires Chris Mussman

Mvemjsunpx · Post by **Mvemjsunpx** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:15 pm

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnf ... id=4641081

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:04 am

Keep hearing Caruso's name coming up.

Post by **Cap'n Cat** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:32 pm

Reliable source telling me former UNI, current NDSU DC Chris Klieman is interviewing as soon as is convenient for both parties.

BlackFalkin · Post by **BlackFalkin** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:37 pm

I think former EWU coach Jody Sears' seat is on fire right now. Same for uc Davis' coach. Uc Davis should be excellent given their location, and new stadium. They should be 6-6 AT LEAST.

Post by **kalm** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:48 pm

BlackFalkin wrote:I think former EWU coach Jody Sears' seat is on fire right now. Same for uc Davis' coach. Uc Davis should be excellent given their location, and new stadium. They should be 6-6 AT LEAST.

Davis's coach is first year. If they beat Sac this week they'll finish 5-7 and 5-3 in conference. I think he's safe for now.

SUUTbird · Post by **SUUTbird** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Cap'n Cat wrote:Reliable source telling me former UNI, current NDSU DC Chris Klieman is interviewing as soon as is convenient for both parties.

If a current NDSU coach goes to North Dakota, could see this developing a recurring game between the two schools every year, which I think should happen anyways.

BlackFalkin · Post by **BlackFalkin** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:53 pm

Lol ndsu doesn't have an annual rivalry with und? Wow. Seems like it would be automatic.

Post by **Screamin_Eagle174** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:59 pm

BlackFalkin wrote:Lol ndsu doesn't have an annual rivalry with und? Wow. Seems like it would be automatic.

It used to be, but NDSU called it quits because they were getting their asses handed to 'em on a much too consistent basis.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia ... eamid=2292" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

10-3 for UND in the last 13 meetings.

Post by **EWURanger** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:58 pm

BlackFalkin wrote:Lol ndsu doesn't have an annual rivalry with und? Wow. Seems like it would be automatic.

Has to do with some sort of petty bullshit about how UND refused to play them when NDSU went up to 1AA and UND was still in Division II. I kind of understand not wanting to play your "rival" when they have 30+ more scholarships, but the series should have been renewed once UND went to Division I.

From what I have read about it, it's just a bunch of bullshit from both sides and all parties involved should really be embarrassed.

Bison Fan in NW MN · Post by **Bison Fan in NW MN** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:33 am

Cap'n Cat wrote:Reliable source telling me former UNI, current NDSU DC Chris Klieman is interviewing as soon as is convenient for both parties.

Nice try.

No, he is not.

Bison Fan in NW MN · Post by **Bison Fan in NW MN** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:40 am

Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:Lol ndsu doesn't have an annual rivalry with und? Wow. Seems like it would be automatic.
It used to be, but NDSU called it quits because they were getting their asses handed to 'em on a much too consistent basis.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia ... eamid=2292" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

10-3 for UND in the last 13 meetings.

Kind of like EWU having a 12-26-1 record against Montana....

Good for UND winning in the 20s - 30s - 40s-and 50s....

I'll take 10 National Titles and a most likely 11th.

Go back to the basement and play with your barbies...

Post by **EWURanger** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:31 am

Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Screamin_Eagle174 wrote:
It used to be, but NDSU called it quits because they were getting their asses handed to 'em on a much too consistent basis.

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia ... eamid=2292" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

10-3 for UND in the last 13 meetings.

Kind of like EWU having a 12-26-1 record against Montana....

Good for UND winning in the 20s - 30s - 40s-and 50s....

I'll take 10 National Titles and a most likely 11th.

Go back to the basement and play with your barbies...

We are 13-26-1 against UM.

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Bison Fan in NW MN · Post by **Bison Fan in NW MN** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:42 am

Bison Fan in NW MN wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Reliable source telling me former UNI, current NDSU DC Chris Klieman is interviewing as soon as is convenient for both parties.

Nice try.

No, he is not.

Fiason wants a coach by mid-December and Klieman is still coaching.

Post by **EWURanger** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:47 am

Strange, I have also read a few things that mentioned they were interviewing the NDSU DC. Maybe just pure speculation, though.

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Post by **clenz** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:23 am

EWURanger wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:Lol ndsu doesn't have an annual rivalry with und? Wow. Seems like it would be automatic.
Has to do with some sort of petty bullshit about how UND refused to play them when NDSU went up to 1AA and UND was still in Division II. I kind of understand not wanting to play your "rival" when they have 30+ more scholarships, but the series should have been renewed once UND went to Division I.

From what I have read about it, it's just a bunch of bullshit from both sides and all parties involved should really be embarrassed.

Mostly this.

It really seems like both sides are a bunch of cry babies over a lot of nothing....Both AD's (and fan bases) are extremely petty. What makes it really funny is the way they both (especially NDSU lately) has been bitching about filling the schedule. I think they only have 9 or 10 games scheduled for next season.

Both schools only had 11 games this season, and I'm pretty sure that includes UND playing conference mate Montana as a NON CON game.

Petty bullshit is really all it is

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:26 am

SUUTbird wrote:
Cap'n Cat wrote:Reliable source telling me former UNI, current NDSU DC Chris Klieman is interviewing as soon as is convenient for both parties.
If a current NDSU coach goes to North Dakota, could see this developing a recurring game between the two schools every year, which I think should happen anyways.

When they join the same conference, a yearly game will happen. NDSU originally offered a 4 year home and home starting in 2004, and UND rejected it.

Post by **EWURanger** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:28 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
SUUTbird wrote:
If a current NDSU coach goes to North Dakota, could see this developing a recurring game between the two schools every year, which I think should happen anyways.
When they join the same conference, a yearly game will happen. NDSU originally offered a 4 year home and home starting in 2004, and UND rejected it.

Yes, because they were still Division II at the time.

And why do they need to be in the same conference to play? Seems incredibly silly.

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Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:32 am

EWURanger wrote:
BlackFalkin wrote:Lol ndsu doesn't have an annual rivalry with und? Wow. Seems like it would be automatic.
Has to do with some sort of petty bullshit about how UND refused to play them when NDSU went up to 1AA and UND was still in Division II. I kind of understand not wanting to play your "rival" when they have 30+ more scholarships, but the series should have been renewed once UND went to Division I.

From what I have read about it, it's just a bunch of bullshit from both sides and all parties involved should really be embarrassed.

UND not only turned down a 4 year home and home, they also said NDSU would fail in it's DI move, it was well documented that they were not going to help NDSU in it's transition by scheduling games with the Bison. Now that both are DI and in different conferences, there is no need for an annual game. Maybe OOC every once in a while, but not yearly.

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:37 am

EWURanger wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
When they join the same conference, a yearly game will happen. NDSU originally offered a 4 year home and home starting in 2004, and UND rejected it.
Yes, because they were still Division II at the time.

And why do they need to be in the same conference to play? Seems incredibly silly.

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Should NDSU give up a money game for UND or a Montana type game or a yearly patsie?

Post by **EWURanger** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:38 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
Has to do with some sort of petty bullshit about how UND refused to play them when NDSU went up to 1AA and UND was still in Division II. I kind of understand not wanting to play your "rival" when they have 30+ more scholarships, but the series should have been renewed once UND went to Division I.

From what I have read about it, it's just a bunch of bullshit from both sides and all parties involved should really be embarrassed.
UND not only turned down a 4 year home and home, they also said NDSU would fail in it's DI move, it was well documented that they were not going to help NDSU in it's transition by scheduling games with the Bison. Now that both are DI and in different conferences, there is no need for an annual game. Maybe OOC every once in a while, but not yearly.

Huh? Why not? Pretty sure many other schools in a similar situation still play every year (Colorado/CSU, Iowa/ISU), etc. etc...

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Post by **EWURanger** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:41 am

Gil Dobie wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
Yes, because they were still Division II at the time.

And why do they need to be in the same conference to play? Seems incredibly silly.

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Should NDSU give up a money game for UND or a Montana type game or a yearly patsie?

You would have not needed to give up anything this year. Both schools played 11 games in a 12 game season. But during regular years, ditch the DII or east coast FCS-in-name-only cupcake you guys have been scheduling in the past, and replace with a home and home with UND. Problem solved.

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Post by **Cap'n Cat** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:36 am

Klieman is going to be a good fit there. His wife and her family are from Grand Forks.

FargoBison · Post by **FargoBison** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:58 am

EWURanger wrote:
Gil Dobie wrote:
UND not only turned down a 4 year home and home, they also said NDSU would fail in it's DI move, it was well documented that they were not going to help NDSU in it's transition by scheduling games with the Bison. Now that both are DI and in different conferences, there is no need for an annual game. Maybe OOC every once in a while, but not yearly.
Huh? Why not? Pretty sure many other schools in a similar situation still play every year (Colorado/CSU, Iowa/ISU), etc. etc...

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Those schools are in the FBS and can schedule 12 games. If NDSU could schedule 12 games every year the game would happen.

For the record NDSU has offered UND two contracts to play. Once when they were D2 and again when they went D1. They refused both contracts.

Sioux · Post by **Sioux** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:30 am

FargoBison wrote:
EWURanger wrote:
Huh? Why not? Pretty sure many other schools in a similar situation still play every year (Colorado/CSU, Iowa/ISU), etc. etc...

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Those schools are in the FBS and can schedule 12 games. If NDSU could schedule 12 games every year the game would happen.

For the record NDSU has offered UND two contracts to play. Once when they were D2 and again when they went D1. They refused both contracts.

UND offered them a contract also and Gene refused. Every other year is dumb. Might as well not play, IMO.

Sioux · Post by **Sioux** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:30 am

Cap'n Cat wrote:Klieman is going to be a good fit there. His wife and her family are from Grand Forks.

Not to be too personal but what are her ties to Grand Forks? Grew up there and family still there?

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