Chizzang - Christie wins big in NJ

[Vidav]

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie decisively won reelection last night in a victory many pundits see as a significant step toward a 2016 presidential bid. As Christie’s prominence on the national stage rises, The Onion breaks down all you need to know about the 51-year-old Republican:

Name: Jason Paxton

Birthplace: Lifelong resident of Nebraska, from which he proudly commutes every day

Children: Bridget (2003), Patrick (2000), Sarah (1996), Andrew (1993), Kristen Bell (1980)

Number Of Times You’ll Hear His Name Over Next 3 years: 2,578,740,569

Most Important Piece Of Legislation: Gay marriage bill he was forced to allow

Biggest gaffe: “I enjoyed Hurricane Sandy very much. I particularly enjoyed how it ruined people’s lives.”

Greatest Asset: Bipartisanship

Greatest Liability: Bipartisanship

Favorite Musician With Nickname ‘Boss’: Jiří Valter—or the Big Boss—lead vocalist for Czech black metal band Root.

Christie: Brinkley

Most Recognizable Physical Characteristic: Height

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[Seahawks08]

Obamacare is RELATIVELY unmanageable? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant? It's an unmitigated disaster.

I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing this. It has been nothing but the Affordable Care Act on TV for over a month now. All I keep hearing is Obamacare is a disaster. What I never hear is...what the Republicans will replace it with.

Also, even though Christie won NJ handily, he would still lose to Clinton (in NJ) if the election was held today.

[AZGrizFan]

Obamacare is RELATIVELY unmanageable? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant? It's an unmitigated disaster.

I'm really getting sick and tired of hearing this. It has been nothing but the Affordable Care Act on TV for over a month now. All I keep hearing is Obamacare is a disaster. What I never hear is...what the Republicans will replace it with.

Also, even though Christie won NJ handily, he would still lose to Clinton (in NJ) if the election was held today.

It's enough that it's a disaster. Best thing that could have happened was having it implemented. Just like THIS.

[kalm]

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's fucked.

[Chizzang]

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's fucked.

I just want all fat Americans to get free Lap Band surgery
Who should I vote for..?

[kalm]

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's fucked.

I just want all fat Americans to get free Lap Band surgery
Who should I vote for..?

Prolly Jill Stein...again.

[Chizzang]

Prolly Jill Stein...again.

I've never done anything in my life (adult life) that annoyed more people than that
and for that reason alone I might just vote for her again

Of course getting kicked out of school (the second time) made a few people angry
I do not today - looking back - consider that I was an adult at that time
and if you understood the nature and circumstance of the event you'd likely agree


of course I wouldn't change a thing...

[HI54UNI]

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's fucked.

Although I might not call Obama center-right.

[AZGrizFan]

Prolly Jill Stein...again.

I've never done anything in my life (adult life) that annoyed more people than that
and for that reason alone I might just vote for her again

Of course getting kicked out of school (the second time) made a few people angry
I do not today - looking back - consider that I was an adult at that time
and if you understood the nature and circumstance of the event you'd likely agree


of course I wouldn't change a thing...

Some wonder whether you're yet an adult...

[kalm]

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's fucked.

Although I might not call Obama center-right.

I can understand why some would quibble with that. Then again, you could make a case that the Republican Party isn't center right either these days.

[bluehenbillk]

One of Christie's best quotes: “I’m in this business to win … if we don’t win, we don’t govern. And if we don’t govern, all we do is shout into the wind….”

[CAA Flagship]

My favorite Christie clip:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/20/a ... ers-union/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[UNI88]

If I thought he was any different than the past 25 years of presidents I might vote for him. The jury is still somewhat out on that issue, however.

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's ****.

Christie scares me. He appears to be a free-spending big government Republican and we need someone who is going to tighten the nation's belt and set us up for 20+ years of success not just a couple of years of entitlement heaven. Given the choice between him and Hillary I think they're just 2 sides of the same coin.

Side note: Hillary's popularity is already starting to slide. If the Republicans put up a decent candidate in 2016, she won't win and she might not even get the nomination.

[CAA Flagship]

If I thought he was any different than the past 25 years of presidents I might vote for him. The jury is still somewhat out on that issue, however.

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's ****.

Christie scares me. He appears to be a free-spending big government Republican and we need someone who is going to tighten the nation's belt and set us up for 20+ years of success not just a couple of years of entitlement heaven. Given the choice between him and Hillary I think they're just 2 sides of the same coin.

Side note: Hillary's popularity is already starting to slide. If the Republicans put up a decent candidate in 2016, she won't win and she might not even get the nomination.

Christie took on the powerful Teacher's Union in NJ head on in an effort to tackle the fiscal reform that was needed in the State due to the economy. He also vetoed NJ's financing of a new tunnel to NYC in order for the planners to seek private funding, which they did. He has been a leader in tackling the financial issues that plagued the State. And when tragedy struck (Sandy) he did what he had to in order to get the federal financial help that NJ needed. He's a no nonsense guy that will only play politics to get votes. Once in office, he will take on the hard fiscal issues. Is he the best person for the job? I don't know. But this country can do far worse than Christie very easily.

[bluehenbillk]

My favorite Christie clip:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/20/a ... ers-union/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That's good stuff!

[Chizzang]

My favorite Christie clip:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/20/a ... ers-union/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It would be really NICE if we had somebody in Washington (for once)
Who actually stood up to the big unions that are effectively destroying our system
This remains to be seen / but I'm hopeful



However the irony is:
Our political system is the largest of all UNIONS

[kalm]

My favorite Christie clip:

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/11/20/a ... ers-union/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It would be really NICE if we had somebody in Washington (for once)
Who actually stood up to the big unions that are effectively destroying our system
This remains to be seen / but I'm hopeful



However the irony is:
Our political system is the largest of all UNIONS

Unions represent 10% of all workers. We could completely eliminate unions and you'd still have a corrupt system.

[HI54UNI]

Christie scares me. He appears to be a free-spending big government Republican and we need someone who is going to tighten the nation's belt and set us up for 20+ years of success not just a couple of years of entitlement heaven. Given the choice between him and Hillary I think they're just 2 sides of the same coin.

Side note: Hillary's popularity is already starting to slide. If the Republicans put up a decent candidate in 2016, she won't win and she might not even get the nomination.

Christie took on the powerful Teacher's Union in NJ head on in an effort to tackle the fiscal reform that was needed in the State due to the economy. He also vetoed NJ's financing of a new tunnel to NYC in order for the planners to seek private funding, which they did. He has been a leader in tackling the financial issues that plagued the State. And when tragedy struck (Sandy) he did what he had to in order to get the federal financial help that NJ needed. He's a no nonsense guy that will only play politics to get votes. Once in office, he will take on the hard fiscal issues. Is he the best person for the job? I don't know. But this country can do far worse than Christie very easily.

That's all very good and that is what has gotten him attention and support from outside NJ. My concern is that DC is very different. GWB had a reputation of being able to work with D's in Texas. He tried working with Ds on things like NCLB. But he found out that Ds in DC were an entirely different animal.

[BDKJMU]

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's ****.

[kalm]

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's ****.

I'm not expecting you to understand this.

[CAA Flagship]

It would be really NICE if we had somebody in Washington (for once)
Who actually stood up to the big unions that are effectively destroying our system
This remains to be seen / but I'm hopeful



However the irony is:
Our political system is the largest of all UNIONS

Unions represent 10% of all workers. We could completely eliminate unions and you'd still have a corrupt system.

I don't know if that figure is all that telling. What percentage is it for manufacturing workers? What drove manufacturing jobs out of the country?
In my mind, unions, or at least the threat of unions, has created a bigger illegal immigration problem than we should be experiencing. Illegal immigrants will work for far less and won't unionize, thus becoming more attractive to employers.
I'm all for worker organizations to help negotiate compensation for groups, but it has gone way overboard where the leaders of these unions are doing more long-term harm than good.

[houndawg]

If I thought he was any different than the past 25 years of presidents I might vote for him. The jury is still somewhat out on that issue, however.

Getting quite the chuckle out of the new Christie fan club sounding VERY similar to the Obama hope and change fan club of a few years back.

They are both center-right POLITICIANS with different letters in front of their names. They are establishment/corporatists, cozy enough with WalL Street and champions of the status quo. If you're wringing your hands wondering why nothing gets done or how there's no voice for you...the reasonable moderate, then quit voting for EITHER party.

Neither deserves our vote. It's the system that's ****.

Christie scares me. He appears to be a free-spending big government Republican and we need someone who is going to tighten the nation's belt and set us up for 20+ years of success not just a couple of years of entitlement heaven. Given the choice between him and Hillary I think they're just 2 sides of the same coin.

Side note: Hillary's popularity is already starting to slide. If the Republicans put up a decent candidate in 2016, she won't win and she might not even get the nomination.

Reagan and Bush must have made you awaken sweating in the middle of the night.

[houndawg]

Unions represent 10% of all workers. We could completely eliminate unions and you'd still have a corrupt system.

I don't know if that figure is all that telling. What percentage is it for manufacturing workers? What drove manufacturing jobs out of the country?
In my mind, unions, or at least the threat of unions, has created a bigger illegal immigration problem than we should be experiencing. Illegal immigrants will work for far less and won't unionize, thus becoming more attractive to employers.
I'm all for worker organizations to help negotiate compensation for groups, but it has gone way overboard where the leaders of these unions are doing more long-term harm than good.

Illegal immigrants are no more problem than we want them to be; throw their employers in jail and the "problem" will disappear overnight. They won't come if there aren't any jobs.

[kalm]

Unions represent 10% of all workers. We could completely eliminate unions and you'd still have a corrupt system.

I don't know if that figure is all that telling. What percentage is it for manufacturing workers? What drove manufacturing jobs out of the country?
In my mind, unions, or at least the threat of unions, has created a bigger illegal immigration problem than we should be experiencing. Illegal immigrants will work for far less and won't unionize, thus becoming more attractive to employers.
I'm all for worker organizations to help negotiate compensation for groups, but it has gone way overboard where the leaders of these unions are doing more long-term harm than good.

I'm luke warm regarding unions at best but I do like higher wages for the low-middle class (everybody should really).

So yes, you can make a point that union greed lost those manufacturing jobs but it also has to do with the greed of free trade. Or is greed only good as it applies to investors and management?

[houndawg]

I don't know if that figure is all that telling. What percentage is it for manufacturing workers? What drove manufacturing jobs out of the country?
In my mind, unions, or at least the threat of unions, has created a bigger illegal immigration problem than we should be experiencing. Illegal immigrants will work for far less and won't unionize, thus becoming more attractive to employers.
I'm all for worker organizations to help negotiate compensation for groups, but it has gone way overboard where the leaders of these unions are doing more long-term harm than good.

I'm luke warm regarding unions at best but I do like higher wages for the low-middle class (everybody should really).

So yes, you can make a point that union greed lost those manufacturing jobs but it also has to do with the greed of free trade. Or is greed only good as it applies to investors and management?

Its only greed when the person who adds value expects a living wage. Eight-figure bonuses for parasites who produce nothing aren't greed.