Republicans to the Poor:

[Ibanez]

BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

*unless you're in the auto or banking industry. We've got your backs, guys.

They were too big to fail.

[kalm]

*unless you're in the auto or banking industry. We've got your backs, guys.

They were too big to fail.

Keep cutting handouts to the poor and Walmart employees will no longer be able to shop there.

[Ibanez]

BTW, this is what the message to the poor should be:

"You have no right to expect that other people will bail you out when you fail. If people choose to help you out out of voluntary charity, that is good. But nobody owes that to you. You are not entitled to have other people provide what you cannot provide for yourself. And you are not entitled to have government rob people who are successful in order to provide you with what you need."

This Message should be told to more that the Poor.

1. Military Contractors
2. Congress
3. CEO's
4. Hot Blonde women with big azz Boobs
5. Retired Generals.

Interesting list. Tell me more about #4.

[mrklean]

This Message should be told to more that the Poor.

1. Military Contractors
2. Congress
3. CEO's
4. Hot Blonde women with big azz Boobs
5. Retired Generals.

Interesting list. Tell me more about #4.

I guess you dont work with alot of Blondes.....lol But tell me Im not right about the rest. And you should know about them

[Ibanez]

They were too big to fail.

Keep cutting handouts to the poor and Walmart employees will no longer be able to shop there.

Continue to give the poor everything and they become reliant on welfare and not themselves.


There is a balance. Like I said before, if you're having hard times, go use welfare or unemployment insurance but you aren't supposed to game the system so that you are on it for too long. I understand economic hardships and such but the point remains, those that abuse the system far outnumber those that do not. I saw a stat from 2005 (outdated and prior to the crisis, I know) that stated about 16% of the population used welfare with only 4% being welfare dependent. I wonder what those numbers are now. Unemployment benefits have been reduced from the 99 weeks, that's a start.

60 months of welfare is a lot. The answer is education, IMO. Education can free you.

[mrklean]

Keep cutting handouts to the poor and Walmart employees will no longer be able to shop there.

Continue to give the poor everything and they become reliant on welfare and not themselves.


There is a balance. Like I said before, if you're having hard times, go use welfare or unemployment insurance but you aren't supposed to game the system so that you are on it for too long. I understand economic hardships and such but the point remains, those that abuse the system far outnumber those that do not. I saw a stat from 2005 (outdated and prior to the crisis, I know) that stated about 16% of the population used welfare with only 4% being welfare dependent. I wonder what those numbers are now. Unemployment benefits have been reduced from the 99 weeks, that's a start.

60 months of welfare is a lot. The answer is education, IMO. Education can free you.

Answer my Question, if you please.

[Ibanez]

Interesting list. Tell me more about #4.

I guess you dont work with alot of Blondes.....lol But tell me Im not right about the rest. And you should know about them

There are a few here and i'm married to one.


Are you saying CEO's but meaning corporate welfare? If so, then I agree with you on that. Hell, I agree with you on #1 and that's me.

[Ibanez]

Continue to give the poor everything and they become reliant on welfare and not themselves.


There is a balance. Like I said before, if you're having hard times, go use welfare or unemployment insurance but you aren't supposed to game the system so that you are on it for too long. I understand economic hardships and such but the point remains, those that abuse the system far outnumber those that do not. I saw a stat from 2005 (outdated and prior to the crisis, I know) that stated about 16% of the population used welfare with only 4% being welfare dependent. I wonder what those numbers are now. Unemployment benefits have been reduced from the 99 weeks, that's a start.

60 months of welfare is a lot. The answer is education, IMO. Education can free you.

Answer my Question, if you please.

What is your question?

[mrklean]

1. Military Contractors
2. Congress
3. CEO's
4. Hot Blonde women with big azz Boobs
5. Retired Generals.

Talk about the Welfare fro these people. (#4 LEAVE ALONE)

[Ibanez]

1. Military Contractors
2. Congress
3. CEO's
4. Hot Blonde women with big azz Boobs
5. Retired Generals.

Talk about the Welfare fro these people. (#4 LEAVE ALONE)

That is a list, not a question.

[mrklean]

1. Military Contractors
2. Congress
3. CEO's
4. Hot Blonde women with big azz Boobs
5. Retired Generals.

Talk about the Welfare fro these people. (#4 LEAVE ALONE)

That is a list, not a question.

OK. thats what I thought. You bitch abou welfare to the poor, but dont have a problem with this type of welfare. Got Cha

[Ibanez]

That is a list, not a question.

OK. thats what I thought. You bitch abou welfare to the poor, but dont have a problem with this type of welfare. Got Cha

You need to read this thread and THEN say that. You will find that you are wrong. I'll give you some help, it's the 7th post on page 2 of this thread.

Besides, saying, " OK. thats what I thought." is a bitch move. You posted a list, not a question. Questions ask who, what, when,where, why and how and are ended with a question mark, "?".

[mrklean]

OK. thats what I thought. You bitch abou welfare to the poor, but dont have a problem with this type of welfare. Got Cha

You need to read this thread and THEN say that. You will find that you are wrong. I'll give you some help, it's the 7th post on page 2 of this thread.

Besides, saying, " OK. thats what I thought." is a bitch move. You posted a list, not a question. Questions ask who, what, when,where, why and how and are ended with a question mark, "?".

Quit dodging the fucking question.

[Ibanez]

Btw, klean, there are countless posts of mine where I include corporate welfare as well as social welfare as major entitlement issues that must be reformed. You only focus on one.

[Ibanez]

You need to read this thread and THEN say that. You will find that you are wrong. I'll give you some help, it's the 7th post on page 2 of this thread.

Besides, saying, " OK. thats what I thought." is a bitch move. You posted a list, not a question. Questions ask who, what, when,where, why and how and are ended with a question mark, "?".

Quit dodging the fucking question.

Wow. It's already been answered you fucking moron. Go back and read. Jesus fucking Christ, you need to return whatever degrees you have. Again, you never asked a fucking question, shit for brains.

[mrklean]

Btw, klean, there are countless posts of mine where I include corporate welfare as well as social welfare as major entitlement issues that must be reformed. You only focus on one.

I focus on both. But all I hear Repukes talk about is Scoial Welfare. Bu they don't know or care about the billions upon billions of dollars that the DOD waste year after year. Just look at the New Destroyer the U.S. Navy is bragging about. Look at the cost over-run on that project and get back to me later.

[Ibanez]

Btw, klean, there are countless posts of mine where I include corporate welfare as well as social welfare as major entitlement issues that must be reformed. You only focus on one.

I focus on both. But all I hear Repukes talk about is Scoial Welfare. Bu they don't know or care about the billions upon billions of dollars that the DOD waste year after year. Just look at the New Destroyer the U.S. Navy is bragging about. Look at the cost over-run on that project and get back to me later.

Answer the fucking question!


Dude, i'll help you out. I'll "answer" you a THIRD time. Corporate Welfare is as bad as Social Welfare when abused. I don't care if it's Boeing, Bank of America or Jermajesty Jackson. You hear republicans talk about it, that's great. I'm not a republican.

[dbackjon]

So Republicans are trying to balance the budget on the backs of the poor, the elderly, and children, refusing to restore cuts to SNAP - nutritional program that mostly helps women and children.

Great. Wall Street and Defense is raping the country, but try to give a starving kid another 25 bucks a month is bad.

This country is truly fucked in our priorities. If you think most of the working poor like it that way, and are happy on handouts, you are too fucking dumb to vote.

[dbackjon]

And based on this thread, my first post is accurate

[Ibanez]

So Republicans are trying to balance the budget on the backs of the poor, the elderly, and children, refusing to restore cuts to SNAP - nutritional program that mostly helps women and children.

Great. Wall Street and Defense is raping the country, but try to give a starving kid another 25 bucks a month is bad.

This country is truly fucked in our priorities. If you think most of the working poor like it that way, and are happy on handouts, you are too fucking dumb to vote.

Why are we just paying people? That solves nothing. Republicans and Democrats, on this board and in Congress, are always saying you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it. But that is what is done with social welfare. They give money and expect nothing in return. Again...it's the abuse of social and corporate welfare that is the problem. Along with abuse is the inability of the Government to help people get off and stay off. Getting off and staying off welfare isn't just the Gov't's role (because they can help with job training) but it's societys role to hire these people, pay them a livable wage and help the generation or two that is coming of age to see that there is a better future. We have to stop subsidies for companies like Exxon, especially when they make the profits they do.

[Cap'n Cat]

So Republicans are trying to balance the budget on the backs of the poor, the elderly, and children, refusing to restore cuts to SNAP - nutritional program that mostly helps women and children.

Great. Wall Street and Defense is raping the country, but try to give a starving kid another 25 bucks a month is bad.

This country is truly fucked in our priorities. If you think most of the working poor like it that way, and are happy on handouts, you are too fucking dumb to vote.

Agree, Jon, 100%.

Am inclined, though it would be painful, to just let the Conks have their way and implement the cuts. Then, watch how they manage the fallout. Picture Conks trying to help the poor who are now rioting. Conks can't see beyond their noses with this "welfare" thing.

Progressives don't just align with the poor to preserve food going to their children, but do so, also, as the last remaining wall between Conks and anarchy. Keep an eye on things once hungry people find the streets. Conks are a worldwide embarrassment.

[Cap'n Cat]

So Republicans are trying to balance the budget on the backs of the poor, the elderly, and children, refusing to restore cuts to SNAP - nutritional program that mostly helps women and children.

Great. Wall Street and Defense is raping the country, but try to give a starving kid another 25 bucks a month is bad.

This country is truly fucked in our priorities. If you think most of the working poor like it that way, and are happy on handouts, you are too fucking dumb to vote.

Why are we just paying people? That solves nothing. Republicans and Democrats, on this board and in Congress, are always saying you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it. But that is what is done with social welfare. They give money and expect nothing in return. Again...it's the abuse of social and corporate welfare that is the problem. Along with abuse is the inability of the Government to help people get off and stay off. Getting off and staying off welfare isn't just the Gov't's role (because they can help with job training) but it's societys role to hire these people, pay them a livable wage and help the generation or two that is coming of age to see that there is a better future. We have to stop subsidies for companies like Exxon, especially when they make the profits they do.

Oh, and by the way, Mark, you ARE a Conk.

[Ibanez]

And based on this thread, my first post is accurate

No, your post is a gross generalization and a difference in idealogy. We are too polarized and it creates topics like this where you will say Republicans want to kill the poor and no amount of evidence can make you change your mind because you are conditioned to equate Evil with Republicanism. Republicans and Democrats have great ideas and HORRIBLE IDEAS. They have their equal share of good and bad leaders. People like me, who are truly in the middle, don't stand a chance.

[Cap'n Cat]

And based on this thread, my first post is accurate

No, your post is a gross generalization and a difference in idealogy. We are too polarized and it creates topics like this where you will say Republicans want to kill the poor and no amount of evidence can make you change your mind because you are conditioned to equate Evil with Republicanism. Republicans and Democrats have great ideas and HORRIBLE IDEAS. They have their equal share of good and bad leaders. People like me, who are truly in the middle, don't stand a chance.

You're Conkier than that fuck Hoagie.

[Ibanez]

Why are we just paying people? That solves nothing. Republicans and Democrats, on this board and in Congress, are always saying you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it. But that is what is done with social welfare. They give money and expect nothing in return. Again...it's the abuse of social and corporate welfare that is the problem. Along with abuse is the inability of the Government to help people get off and stay off. Getting off and staying off welfare isn't just the Gov't's role (because they can help with job training) but it's societys role to hire these people, pay them a livable wage and help the generation or two that is coming of age to see that there is a better future. We have to stop subsidies for companies like Exxon, especially when they make the profits they do.

Oh, and by the way, Mark, you ARE a Conk.

I can't be, I believe gays should have equal rights. Women should have the right to choice. People should have access to affordable health care, we should greatly reduce our military budget and spend more on Education and science research. I'm too eco-friendly. The most republican thing about me is that i'm white.