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CA to allow non-physicians to perform abortions

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I thought that the point of Roe v Wade was to PREVENT this from happening? :dunce:
A bill that would allow non-physicians to perform abortions in the first trimester of pregnancy is awaiting signature by Gov. Jerry Brown of California by Sep. 30. The bill, AB 154, passed both houses of the state legislature with strong support from Planned Parenthood and pro-choice groups. Planned Parenthood stands to benefit most directly from the bill, as non-physician staff at its clinics would be able to obtain abortion licenses.
One doctor--who identified himself as pro-choice--told Breitbart News that "the bill is a disaster since it sends us back 100 years to the problems of the complications from back-steet abortions." The bill's critics warn that the training provided to non-physician staff is weak, that supervision by physicians in clinics will be minimal, and that there is real risk of injury or death to women who will be treated in such conditions.
The California Medical Association has endorsed AB 154 because of "provisions for training in the bill and the amendments that clarify physician supervision." Yet the training is to be provided by the Board of Registered Nursing, not by physicians, and the protocols for defining "supervision" have not been specified. There is nothing in the legislation requiring a physician to be present or on-site during an abortion.
The bill permits licensed non-physicians to perform two kinds of abortion in the first trimester--by medication, and by aspiration, which requires the insertion of medical instruments into the uterus. Though many doctors agree that non-physicians could provide medications with few risks, the idea that a non-physician would perform an invasive procedure such as aspiration strikes many as rife with risks.
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Keep telling yourselves that no one is pro-abortion, only pro choice. If this was a proposal to let unlicensed people perform tonsillectomies it would never pass in a million years.
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Re: CA to allow non-physicians to perform abortions

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What does this have to do with Roe v Wade?

There are many procedures that used to be physician only that are now performed by trained assistants.

And no, no one is pro-abortion.
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dbackjon wrote:And no, no one is pro-abortion.
Wanna bet?
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89Hen wrote:
dbackjon wrote:And no, no one is pro-abortion.
Wanna bet?
If altar boys could get pregnant, the pope would be performing abortions, on Sunday. :nod:
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D1B wrote:
89Hen wrote: Wanna bet?
If altar boys could get pregnant, the pope would be performing abortions, on Sunday. :nod:
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D1B wrote:
89Hen wrote: Wanna bet?
If altar boys could get pregnant, the pope would be performing abortions, on Sunday. :nod:
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Pwns wrote:Keep telling yourselves that no one is pro-abortion, only pro choice. If this was a proposal to let unlicensed people perform tonsillectomies it would never pass in a million years.
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I'm PRO-Abortion
either that or hand out loaded guns in Kindergarten... (both are fine)
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And the problem is...???

This is another fine Democrat job creation program.

Added benefit is a two-fer. The women "choosing" to allow "unqualified" medical personnel to murder their infants have an increase risk of infection and permanent injury or death.

Fewer mouths to feed...it's the Progressive way!

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travelinman67 wrote:And the problem is...???

This is another fine Democrat job creation program.

Added benefit is a two-fer. The women "choosing" to allow "unqualified" medical personnel to murder their infants have an increase risk of infection and permanent injury or death.

Fewer mouths to feed...it's the Progressive way!

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What a jackass. I'll take an NP over a MD anyday.

The way I figure, its a new class of medical personel for you and 89Hen to harrass or murder. :thumb:
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D1B wrote:What a jackass. I'll take an NP over a MD anyday.
To draw blood, insert a catheter, change my bedpan.... sure.
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89Hen wrote:
D1B wrote:What a jackass. I'll take an NP over a MD anyday.
To draw blood, insert a catheter, change my bedpan.... sure.
Yeah, that's about what an abortion entails. :thumb:
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Pwns wrote:Keep telling yourselves that no one is pro-abortion, only pro choice. If this was a proposal to let unlicensed people perform tonsillectomies it would never pass in a million years.
Agreed. T'man is a textbook example of what can result from letting untrained personnel perform abortions. :ohno:
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